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 | | | Author: | infinibrix  | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 08:10 | | Subject: | Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 236 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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| | | | | Author: | dearlydeparted | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 08:33 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Always found that odd as well.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| As far as I know and wherever possible, minifig names adhere to the 'official'
names that LEGO uses on the box art or set descriptions.
This is an issue that would disappear with a proper tag system! Be sure to write
to BrickLink and encourage them to create this system and give our admins the
tools to improve our catalog.
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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I suggest that it is named "Mary Shelly's monster that was originally named
Adam, but became Doctor Frankenstein's creation one dark and stormy night
made from parts from the local charnel house". That should do it.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, legoman77 writes:
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I suggest that it is named "Mary Shelly's monster that was originally named
Adam, but became Doctor Frankenstein's creation one dark and stormy night
made from parts from the local charnel house". That should do it.
John P
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Yeah… but the goal is for people to find them more easily… and as her name was
Shelley, your proposition wouldn’t work  
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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I agree with this 100%.
David
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| | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 15:45 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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I'm confused, why would searching for Frankenstein give monster results instead
of doctors?
Frankenstein was a doctor, creator of the monster
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 19:34 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Cob writes:
| | I'm confused, why would searching for Frankenstein give monster results instead
of doctors?
Frankenstein was a doctor, creator of the monster
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Isn't it obvious? Because most people refer to both the Creature and Creator
as simply the word Frankenstein!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 20:05 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Cob writes:
| | I'm confused, why would searching for Frankenstein give monster results instead
of doctors?
Frankenstein was a doctor, creator of the monster
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Isn't it obvious? Because most people refer to both the Creature and Creator
as simply the word Frankenstein!
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I believe all the winky faces on these posts were a gentle acknowledgment of
the general confusion with the name of this character. We all get it, okay?
And, I don't believe that we won't ever get out tag system. The admins
are playing the long game here and there is no need to push so hard. I am sorry
that it has been so frustrating for you.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 20:32 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Cob writes:
| | I'm confused, why would searching for Frankenstein give monster results instead
of doctors?
Frankenstein was a doctor, creator of the monster
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Isn't it obvious? Because most people refer to both the Creature and Creator
as simply the word Frankenstein!
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I believe all the winky faces on these posts were a gentle acknowledgment of
the general confusion with the name of this character. We all get it, okay?
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Some get it, Some don't get it, some are light hearted remarks, some are
wise crack remarks, some can tell the difference!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 13:11 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Cob writes:
| | I'm confused, why would searching for Frankenstein give monster results instead
of doctors?
Frankenstein was a doctor, creator of the monster
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Isn't it obvious? Because most people refer to both the Creature and Creator
as simply the word Frankenstein!
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Yes obvious.
Obviously it was a joke about the general confusion of identity of Frankenstein.
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 16:00 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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Agree, same with this one not being "Little Red Riding Hood"
However, this one is so hilarious that I actually remember it now.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 16:59 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It isn't Frankenstein, either. It's Frankenstein's monster.
In any case, we are not going to rename the minifigures, because they are named
after what LEGO named them.
I am sorry, but without a tag system this rabbit hole never ends. Please petition
BrickLink to provide us with a tag system that we have been asking about for
years. The more voices they hear from, the better our chances of getting it into
development and hopefully solving these issues.
Cheers,
Randy
In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 19:43 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | It isn't Frankenstein, either. It's Frankenstein's monster.
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That doesn't take away from the fact the creature itself is largely refereed
to as Frankenstein for short either way I suggested adding (Frankenstein) in
brackets as this is what the design and look of the creature are associated with
| | In any case, we are not going to rename the minifigures, because they are named
after what LEGO named them.
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and in which case why have you gone to the trouble of specifically renaming all
those associated parts I mentioned as 'Frankensteins Monster' and yet
adding the word Frankenstein to the minfig descriptions themselves is too much
trouble?
Don't you think its a bit inconsistent to have the parts referenced as Frankenstein
and yet no mention of Frankenstein on the minifigures themselves? It should be
all or nothing? Besides if you are going to update some of the associated parts
'Frankensteins Monster' then you need to do the same for all and be consistent
about it? For example:-
* | | 3626bpb0772 Minifigure, Head Alien with Monster with Thick Eyebrows, Green Facial Lines, Open Mouth Missing Teeth Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head |
| | I am sorry, but without a tag system this rabbit hole never ends.
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There is little point holding out for a tag system and using this as a reason
not to implement beneficial changes because until such time that this ever arrives
we can only make the best of the current system we have now
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 22, 2021 22:30 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | It isn't Frankenstein, either. It's Frankenstein's monster.
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That doesn't take away from the fact the creature itself is largely refereed
to as Frankenstein for short either way I suggested adding (Frankenstein) in
brackets as this is what the design and look of the creature are associated with
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It was a light-hearted jab at being so pedantic about everything.
| | | | In any case, we are not going to rename the minifigures, because they are named
after what LEGO named them.
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and in which case why have you gone to the trouble of specifically renaming all
those associated parts I mentioned as 'Frankensteins Monster' and yet
adding the word Frankenstein to the minfig descriptions themselves is too much
trouble?
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I didn't name any of those parts or rename them. They are just named what
they are from when they were added. And they were all added a long time before
I ever became an admin. 
There are some written and some unwritten guidelines for minifigure names that
the past admins followed and that we currently follow when adding minifigures,
but naming parts does not have any rigid guidelines as far as descriptors go.
Therefore, the minifigures were named according to how LEGO named them, which
is one of the main guidelines we try to follow for minifigures. On the other
hand, the parts were just named by whoever was contributing the parts to the
catalog.
| | Don't you think its a bit inconsistent to have the parts referenced as Frankenstein
and yet no mention of Frankenstein on the minifigures themselves?
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Of course. And I would love to solve it for you, but adding artificial tags to
catalog entries is not the route to take.
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I didn't say that anywhere. But if we went all or nothing at this time, I
would be going in the opposite direction of what you are requesting and removing
"Frankenstein" from the part names to match the minifigure names.
| | Besides if you are going to update some of the associated parts
'Frankensteins Monster' then you need to do the same for all and be consistent
about it? For example:-
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Once again, those parts were never renamed or updated. They went into the catalog
with those names back in 2011-2012.
| | | | I am sorry, but without a tag system this rabbit hole never ends.
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There is little point holding out for a tag system and using this as a reason
not to implement beneficial changes because until such time that this ever arrives
we can only make the best of the current system we have now
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There is a lot of point in holding out for a tag system. The admin team is unanimous
in wanting to see it developed, and I believe we will get it. The BrickLink developers
are currently fixing a lot of ancient stuff for us in our admin forms, which
will make our work more streamlined and easier. I don't want to derail them
from that, but I think we could easily push for a tag system to be added next
year as a priority. One thing I have learned as an admin is that I have to have
a lot of patience and play the long game. Unfortunately, that means the entire
user base has to play the long game along with us. Just look at how long it took
the site to get games moved from Gear to Sets (although it technically hasn't
happened yet)!
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 08:11 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 11:36 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 15:05 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 15:41 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 18:56 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Oct 23, 2021 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: Frankenstein? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | It isn't Frankenstein, either. It's Frankenstein's monster.
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Actually Mary Shelly named it Adam. She also. at times, referred to Percy Shelly
as Adam.
While she does not mention the name in the book, and never a name other than
Frankenstein's monster, it could just have that name that was never mentioned.
John P
| | In any case, we are not going to rename the minifigures, because they are named
after what LEGO named them.
I am sorry, but without a tag system this rabbit hole never ends. Please petition
BrickLink to provide us with a tag system that we have been asking about for
years. The more voices they hear from, the better our chances of getting it into
development and hopefully solving these issues.
Cheers,
Randy
In Catalog Requests, infinibrix writes:
| | Searching for Frankenstein I expected to find more than just the one Minifigure
therefore regardless of what their official names might be can we not at least
add the word (frankenstein) in brackets as this I'm sure is how most people
would see them?
Either way many of their associated parts already contain the word Frankenstein
making it a catalog inconsistency?
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