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| | | Author: | here4bricks614  | | Posted: | Oct 18, 2021 18:52 | | Subject: | Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Inventories Administrator | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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| | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2021 07:13 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
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| | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2021 11:36 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
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LEGO also released this part in set 5367, as per their official inventory data,
but the set’s inventory does not match Bricklink’s. Perhaps it had two iterations
and should be looked at again? It’s been ten years since the inventory has been
edited, and fixing it would give Nougat a source set, along with a few other
bricks, such as the Dark Yellow 3437. The Nougat brick also has a last unit price
of $0.75, implying that it was at one point able to be purchased. That being
said, both sets with Nougat bricks were released in 2005, which would make the
one-off” theory less plausible, as it wasn’t just this strange Dacta set.
Duplo sets from 10+ years ago aren’t exactly easy to come by, and Dacta sets
are even rarer, which would make the fact that 3437 Nougat hasn’t sold recently,
somewhat make sense.
I believe that with all renders/photos there is usually some difference in regards
to how we perceive colors. I think the Nougat brick is close enough to the pigs
and far away enough from Medium Orange.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2021 12:45 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
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LEGO also released this part in set 5367, as per their official inventory data,
but the set’s inventory does not match Bricklink’s. Perhaps it had two iterations
and should be looked at again? It’s been ten years since the inventory has been
edited, and fixing it would give Nougat a source set, along with a few other
bricks, such as the Dark Yellow 3437. The Nougat brick also has a last unit price
of $0.75, implying that it was at one point able to be purchased. That being
said, both sets with Nougat bricks were released in 2005, which would make the
one-off” theory less plausible, as it wasn’t just this strange Dacta set.
Duplo sets from 10+ years ago aren’t exactly easy to come by, and Dacta sets
are even rarer, which would make the fact that 3437 Nougat hasn’t sold recently,
somewhat make sense.
I believe that with all renders/photos there is usually some difference in regards
to how we perceive colors. I think the Nougat brick is close enough to the pigs
and far away enough from Medium Orange.
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We don't make changes here based on speculation and conjecture, though. We
need proof.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2021 12:54 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
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LEGO also released this part in set 5367, as per their official inventory data,
but the set’s inventory does not match Bricklink’s. Perhaps it had two iterations
and should be looked at again? It’s been ten years since the inventory has been
edited, and fixing it would give Nougat a source set, along with a few other
bricks, such as the Dark Yellow 3437. The Nougat brick also has a last unit price
of $0.75, implying that it was at one point able to be purchased. That being
said, both sets with Nougat bricks were released in 2005, which would make the
one-off” theory less plausible, as it wasn’t just this strange Dacta set.
Duplo sets from 10+ years ago aren’t exactly easy to come by, and Dacta sets
are even rarer, which would make the fact that 3437 Nougat hasn’t sold recently,
somewhat make sense.
I believe that with all renders/photos there is usually some difference in regards
to how we perceive colors. I think the Nougat brick is close enough to the pigs
and far away enough from Medium Orange.
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We don't make changes here based on speculation and conjecture, though. We
need proof.
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The only person selling this set on the internet is selling it on a brazilian
website. The listing does not include photos of the nougat brick, but I will
try to get said photos.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Oct 20, 2021 05:46 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
|
LEGO also released this part in set 5367, as per their official inventory data,
but the set’s inventory does not match Bricklink’s. Perhaps it had two iterations
and should be looked at again? It’s been ten years since the inventory has been
edited, and fixing it would give Nougat a source set, along with a few other
bricks, such as the Dark Yellow 3437. The Nougat brick also has a last unit price
of $0.75, implying that it was at one point able to be purchased. That being
said, both sets with Nougat bricks were released in 2005, which would make the
one-off” theory less plausible, as it wasn’t just this strange Dacta set.
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5367 is one of many "floor sweepings" sets that were released around 2005 to
get rid of some elements which were not needed anymore for normal sets (especially
elements in rare colors). These sets had varying inventories and I would not
trust any official inventory list for them. 5367 is supposed to came with 100
parts, but the official inventory lists 105 (and we don't know if it is even
complete), so some of them are for sure just alternates for others:
https://brickset.com/inventories/5367-1
| | Duplo sets from 10+ years ago aren’t exactly easy to come by, and Dacta sets
are even rarer, which would make the fact that 3437 Nougat hasn’t sold recently,
somewhat make sense.
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That's right, but I'm not inclined to make nougat a known color for part
3437 until we know it definitely exists in this color.
| | I believe that with all renders/photos there is usually some difference in regards
to how we perceive colors. I think the Nougat brick is close enough to the pigs
and far away enough from Medium Orange.
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Maybe medium orange is correct, maybe not, but without further evidence there
is a risk that we replace a wrong entry with another wrong entry which doesn't
help anyone.
A few general notes:
- The official inventories (from Brickset/customer services replacement parts
pages) usually only show the latest colors or parts variants for a given set.
Different variants or colors which were included in sets from earlier production
runs are not included.
- Many Dacta/Education sets are produced over a long period of time (5+ years
is quite normal) and later copies can include a lot of alternate parts. To determine
the actual contents of such a set can be difficult and sometimes almost impossible.
If you have good evidence to correct something, please let us know and we will
look into it. But please also understand that we don't accept changes based
on pure speculation and that duplo and dacta sets have rather low priority in
our daily catalog and inventory work.
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| | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Oct 19, 2021 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Changes to set 9233 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Part 3437 in Medium Orange should be Nougat. LEGO's customer service database
has the part in the set's inventory as being Nougat.
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Do you have any additional evidence for this? Usually I would trust the official
inventory data, but in this case I'm a bit sceptical.
- When the set was released nougat was mostly used for animals, figures and a
few other "special" parts, but not for normal bricks.
- It would be unusual to produce a part in nougat only for this Dacta set.
- Right now there is not a single 3437 in nougat available for sale and none
have been sold in the past six months.
- On the set image the color does not look like nougat when compared with the
pigs (see attached image).
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I believe it also worth looking at sets 9240, 4967, and 3772.
9240 and 4967 have a 3437 in Medium Orange, and both sets were released in 2006,
a few years after the aforementioned color had been replaced by Bright Light
Orange. Given that some users have reported instances of old grays in sets as
late as 2006, it would not be out of the realm of possibilities to assume that
LEGO was probably “clearing out” instances of their remaining retired colors.
LEGO’s official inventory data has the 3437s in those sets as being Bright Light
Orange. Given this information, perhaps Medium Orange can be made an alternate
and Bright Light Orange the main color?
3772 is a strange one. The set released in 2005 has a brick in Light Orange,
which was a color that was completely removed from the palette in 2003. Grays,
Medium Orange, and a few others were replaced, but Light Orange was cut completely
without replacement. Bright Light Orange is pretty close to Light Orange, which
may have resulted in an error. 3/4 of the sellers selling this particular brick
have it listed as Bright Light Orange, which may also help solidify the fact
that it is indeed Bright Light Orange, and not the retired Light Orange. This
one does not have information in LEGO’s official database about this brick existing
in Bright Light Orange or Light Orange, but we know it obviously exists in one
of these two colors.
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