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 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 10:09
 Subject: UK buying? Not anymore, thanks to Brexit.....
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StarBrick (7061)

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Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 10:19
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Why is Holland collecting VAT if it's already been collected by BrickLink?

In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 10:35
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In General, peregrinator writes:
  Why is Holland collecting VAT if it's already been collected by BrickLink?


Good question, but I do not have any answer. I've had it with these rules
to protect national interests.
In the end, it doesn't help anyone or anything. It will only cost more than
it did before.... Makes me very sad....
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 11:33
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

Indeed goodbye to my UK friends, but now from a seller's perspective. I've
lost 80-90% of my orders from the UK, on BL and Brick Owl.
 Author: Llewyn View Messages Posted By Llewyn
 Posted: Oct 19, 2021 12:56
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In General, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Indeed goodbye to my UK friends, but now from a seller's perspective. I've
lost 80-90% of my orders from the UK, on BL and Brick Owl.

Yes, it's a loss all round - you point out the thing missing from the original
message, that this cuts both ways. I've had a number of stores in Holland,
France and Germany that I've found reliable when I needed parts I couldn't
easily get in the UK, but ordering from them now is either impossible or far
more problematic.

Hopefully at least the postal and local customs systems will get used to the
marketplace VAT rules at some point though, and while it's going to be pricier
than it used to be I'm optimistic it will get simpler and less risky in future.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 11:38
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

It is the same the other way around too (although neither should be charging
VAT twice, on BL and on import). I haven't bothered looking a EU sellers
when buying for some time now.
 Author: cplonsdale View Messages Posted By cplonsdale
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 11:45
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Whilst I am strongly of the opinion that Brexit is ridiculous, only one of the
three problems you mentioned are caused by it.
Imports from the UK will now be taxed, yes this is Brexit.
The threshold being removed is not Brexit it was an EU move that applies to imports
from all third party countries.
Being charged twice is an error due to poor implementation of the OMP regulations
either by your country's customs or Bricklink, again not Brexit.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Oct 8, 2021 12:40
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In General, cplonsdale writes:
  Whilst I am strongly of the opinion that Brexit is ridiculous, only one of the
three problems you mentioned are caused by it.
Imports from the UK will now be taxed, yes this is Brexit.
The threshold being removed is not Brexit it was an EU move that applies to imports
from all third party countries.
Being charged twice is an error due to poor implementation of the OMP regulations
either by your country's customs or Bricklink, again not Brexit.

If Brexit did not happen, the other 2 events would never have happened.....
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Mar 7, 2022 15:15
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  In General, cplonsdale writes:
  Whilst I am strongly of the opinion that Brexit is ridiculous, only one of the
three problems you mentioned are caused by it.
Imports from the UK will now be taxed, yes this is Brexit.
The threshold being removed is not Brexit it was an EU move that applies to imports
from all third party countries.
Being charged twice is an error due to poor implementation of the OMP regulations
either by your country's customs or Bricklink, again not Brexit.

If Brexit did not happen, the other 2 events would never have happened.....

You can't possibly be certain of that. Never underestimate what bureaucracies
might do.
 Author: Dino View Messages Posted By Dino
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 12:04
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....


I had the same problem with a shipment from Australia. On the package it said
in big letters: VAT-Paid: IOSS - xxxxxxx. Nevertheless, I had to pay the import
VAT again. This time also on the already paid tax.
I sent the payment receipt and 2 days later the amount of the prepaid tax was
credited to my account.
Fortunately, I had bought the item through Ebay and not through BL.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 12:13
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  I had the same problem with a shipment from Australia. On the package it said
in big letters: VAT-Paid: IOSS - xxxxxxx. Nevertheless, I had to pay the import
VAT again. This time also on the already paid tax.
I sent the payment receipt and 2 days later the amount of the prepaid tax was
credited to my account.
Fortunately, I had bought the item through Ebay and not through BL.

This sounds like it is the receiving country's mail system not knowing what
they are doing.

I don't think I have ordered anything from Europe since Brexit, although
there was the Vidiyo lanyards and shoe tags that where delayed due to tax issues.
Aside from that, I have had a number of items sent from China, all with pre-paid
VAT, and all have got through fine with the correct VAT-Paid declarations showing.
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: Oct 7, 2021 12:24
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.

Is the PostNL VAT complaints page not leading to any action on their part? I
received my first non-EU order yesterday and had to pay VAT again so I submitted
a complaint on the PostNL site. "I already paid VAT to the webshop" is even one
of the options in their dropdown menu with reasons for the complaint. Are you
saying you already tried that and still didn't get your double paid VAT back?
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.

Is the PostNL VAT complaints page not leading to any action on their part? I
received my first non-EU order yesterday and had to pay VAT again so I submitted
a complaint on the PostNL site. "I already paid VAT to the webshop" is even one
of the options in their dropdown menu with reasons for the complaint. Are you
saying you already tried that and still didn't get your double paid VAT back?

My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
 Posted: Oct 8, 2021 14:08
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But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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I'm not sure on which side of the Brexit you are, but in this case, it has
made shipping from the UK to the Netherlands as challenging as shipping from
Canada to the Netherlands which is NOT a not a good thing.

In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?

I am not sure how shipping from Canada to the Netherlands has anything to do
with Brexit in UK?
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In General, SezaR writes:
  In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?

I am not sure how shipping from Canada to the Netherlands has anything to do
with Brexit in UK?

It is similar in that neither Canada nor UK are in the EU, and so the Dutch authorities
treat imports from both in the same way. Unfortunately for Dutch buyers it seems
they are charging VAT again, even when it is already paid and declared as paid.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, SezaR writes:
  In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?

I am not sure how shipping from Canada to the Netherlands has anything to do
with Brexit in UK?

It is similar in that neither Canada nor UK are in the EU, and so the Dutch authorities
treat imports from both in the same way. Unfortunately for Dutch buyers it seems
they are charging VAT again, even when it is already paid and declared as paid.

Exactly the point I was trying to make, badly as it turns out.

That the UK is now an international importer to the EU is of course entirely
Brexit related. The Dutch PO’s inability to handle imports correctly from countries
outside the EU isn’t.

If it’s cheaper to buy tax paid internationally people should. I guess it’s rarely
cheaper tax paid twice. This idea to tax online sales isn’t going away so this
problem needs to be and I guess ultimately will be sorted.
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In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?

This has nothing to do with Brexit. It is the change in import regulations into
the EU. I think VAT is translated by the customs officers as "sales tax" and
not "import turnover tax".
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There have been some rumblings about getting rid of the Governor General...

In General, LegoLDK writes:
  But that can't be true, we've been told it's all Brexit's fault
and Canada hasn't Brexited has it????

In General, SezaR writes:
  My buyer paid twice too. I followed the instructions of BL very accurately.
So is this the way to go for Dutch buyers?

Any info on how to resolve the same issue for other European countries?
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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.

Is the PostNL VAT complaints page not leading to any action on their part? I
received my first non-EU order yesterday and had to pay VAT again so I submitted
a complaint on the PostNL site. "I already paid VAT to the webshop" is even one
of the options in their dropdown menu with reasons for the complaint. Are you
saying you already tried that and still didn't get your double paid VAT back?

Update on this: while this is an option to file a complaint with the reason that
VAT was already paid, the reply I got today from PostNL said that the sender
should have provided that information. So I guess either the sender did not correctly
enter the information or their country's postal service did not correctly
provide that information to PostNL.

So I guess I won't be placing orders under € 150 outside the EU anymore.
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

I had exactly the same issues in Germany.
For example: 5 Euro VAT would be applied to my order it ends up in 2 x 5 Euro
+ 6 Euro DHL Fee for throwing in a message that I can go to the post office to
pick up my order.

If you do not put the IOSS number on the customs declaration this does not work
out and sometimes even with number
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Location:  Belgium
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In General, faro writes:
  In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

I had exactly the same issues in Germany.
For example: 5 Euro VAT would be applied to my order it ends up in 2 x 5 Euro
+ 6 Euro DHL Fee for throwing in a message that I can go to the post office to
pick up my order.

If you do not put the IOSS number on the customs declaration this does not work
out and sometimes even with number

there is one option so you don`t pay 2 x vat : buy only in the EU .
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

That is interesting.
I had the UK on my list of countries with very high postage to the US (based
on some previous orders from the UK). But just the other day I ordered from
a UK seller, who calculated the postage directly before I checked out, and I
saw that postage was reasonable, so I checked out.
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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Many UK sellers have given up shipping to the EU due to double charging of VAT
even though the packages are being shipped with VAT paid and all the correct
details attached. I had one shipment to Germany refused by their customs today
(even though it should have gone through with no checks) with them citing there
was no CE mark or original packaging and the little Lego AROCS Mercedes badge
was deemed to be a trademarked item so could only be imported with a 'licence'
!!

I don't know if sellers in countries other than the UK are experiencing such
problems but I suspect this is the EU extracting vengeance on the UK for leaving.
I get enough business from the UK and the rest of the world so it's the EU's
loss when I remove them from my shipping list later today. Perhaps I will add
them back when the people who run the EU stop acting like spoilt children who
have been told NO for the first time.


Steve


In General, eileenkeeney writes:
  In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

That is interesting.
I had the UK on my list of countries with very high postage to the US (based
on some previous orders from the UK). But just the other day I ordered from
a UK seller, who calculated the postage directly before I checked out, and I
saw that postage was reasonable, so I checked out.
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In General, stevetq2 writes:
  Many UK sellers have given up shipping to the EU due to double charging of VAT
even though the packages are being shipped with VAT paid and all the correct
details attached. I had one shipment to Germany refused by their customs today
(even though it should have gone through with no checks) with them citing there
was no CE mark or original packaging and the little Lego AROCS Mercedes badge
was deemed to be a trademarked item so could only be imported with a 'licence'
!!

I don't know if sellers in countries other than the UK are experiencing such
problems but I suspect this is the EU extracting vengeance on the UK for leaving.
I get enough business from the UK and the rest of the world so it's the EU's
loss when I remove them from my shipping list later today. Perhaps I will add
them back when the people who run the EU stop acting like spoilt children who
have been told NO for the first time.


I think a lot of it is just incompetence with a new system.
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I have now regrettably decided to stop shipping to the EU as some buyers are
leaving negative feedback due to VAT being charged by customs even though I had
a warning this may happen and also messaged the buyer informing of this risk
before they decided to continue with the transaction. BrickLink needs to sort
this out and perhaps consider refunding buyers who have been what I would consider
illegally charged VAT for a second time by customs in EU countries, even though
an IOSS compliant courier postage method has been used.

Steve


In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, stevetq2 writes:
  Many UK sellers have given up shipping to the EU due to double charging of VAT
even though the packages are being shipped with VAT paid and all the correct
details attached. I had one shipment to Germany refused by their customs today
(even though it should have gone through with no checks) with them citing there
was no CE mark or original packaging and the little Lego AROCS Mercedes badge
was deemed to be a trademarked item so could only be imported with a 'licence'
!!

I don't know if sellers in countries other than the UK are experiencing such
problems but I suspect this is the EU extracting vengeance on the UK for leaving.
I get enough business from the UK and the rest of the world so it's the EU's
loss when I remove them from my shipping list later today. Perhaps I will add
them back when the people who run the EU stop acting like spoilt children who
have been told NO for the first time.


I think a lot of it is just incompetence with a new system.
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In General, stevetq2 writes:
  I have now regrettably decided to stop shipping to the EU as some buyers are
leaving negative feedback due to VAT being charged by customs even though I had
a warning this may happen and also messaged the buyer informing of this risk
before they decided to continue with the transaction. BrickLink needs to sort
this out and perhaps consider refunding buyers who have been what I would consider
illegally charged VAT for a second time by customs in EU countries, even though
an IOSS compliant courier postage method has been used.

I agree and don't blame you for making that decision. There is incompetence
somewhere, probably either with the info BL is providing or what is being done
with that information by couriers/mail companies. I stopped selling to the EU
earlier in the year and wouldn't open up EU shipping again until it is all
working as it should.

Customers should not be double taxed, and I can understand them leaving negative
feedback for sellers when they are. They cannot complain to BL, so sellers are
next in line, especially if their customs say there was an error in paperwork.
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In General, StarBrick writes:
  Had a rude wake up call today.

As of July 1st this year and later on from September 1st buying from the UK has
become increasingly expensive for EU buyers.

The treshold of 22 euro has been abandoned from July 1st. Every sale will be
taxed, even if it is below this treshold (there is no treshold....).
Taxes are to paid on the invoice of the seller and by the customs dept in Holland;
so the purchase is double taxed (2 x 21%!). And I have no possibility to reclaim
it.
Plus there is 4 euro fee for handling if it is less than 150 euro value of the
shipment (10 euro if it is above...).

A 27 GBP (32 euro) order (included was shipping for 5.75 GBP, taxes for 4.82
GBP (21%)) became 10 euro more expensive because of this.

I know, I am free to buy or not to buy these parts in the UK. Unfortunately the
UK seller(s) are the only one in Europe with these parts....
But if this is the result of Brexit, I will end buying from my UK Lego-friends.
Too bad it turned out this way.

So long my UK-friends.....

I used love to buying from the EU but with the VAT now, it has virtually killed
any profit. It's a shame because now you really have to be careful. So, I
am still waiting for someone to tell me the advantages of Brexit. More taxes,
freedom of movement has gone. The UK Goverment scuttling round like rabbits caught
in the headlights trying cover up the mess they have caused.
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In General, Yellow writes:
  The same shit for me in Hungary.
I paid double VAT several times, but not alway.
There is a so called IOSS system. When you pay the VAT to the BrickLink system,
the Seller should gat an IOSS number, which proves that the VAT was already paid.
It should be the responsibility of the Seller to let the shipping company forward
this IOSS number to the tax authority of the destination country. If the Customs
Authority of the destination country receives this IOSS number, they know, that
the VAT was already paid, and they don't charge the VAT again (but they still
charge the customs handling fee)

I don't know why BrickLink has to collect VAT. The VAT should be paid when
the goods arrive to the destination, this way double taxation could be avoided.

I have to accept, that I have to pay VAT for any import goods. What upsets me
is that I have to pay twice. And for this I blame it on BrickLink.


+1
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In General, Yellow writes:
   the customs handling fee


That's what happened to me as well: like the original post, there were 10
euros handling fee, for which we can do nothing. Mine was a 15 pound order, big
surprise when the french post office asked me for an additional 10 euros. It
has nothing to do with VAT, it's their so-called handling fee.
So yeah, same here: thanks to our British friends but will not order again outside
EU ,😔