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| | | Author: | tons_of_bricks  | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2021 21:31 | | Subject: | Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 156 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| So I just had a buyer who wanted a special shipping delivery not follow instructions
and choose one of my normal shipping options instead of the Invoice Method. He
wants me to charge him the extra through paypal. My question is: Is that ok regarding
taxes? Or does the whole payment need to go through BL?
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 00:35 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, firestar246 writes:
| | So I just had a buyer who wanted a special shipping delivery not follow instructions
and choose one of my normal shipping options instead of the Invoice Method. He
wants me to charge him the extra through paypal. My question is: Is that ok regarding
taxes? Or does the whole payment need to go through BL?
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There may be taxes to be paid on the extra:
USA: it depends on the state.
EU: the €150 threshold is only on the product (“intrinsic value”) but the amount
on which VAT is calculated includes the transport.
(Plus, all should be on the invoice, otherwise the customs may not like the discrepancy.)
Now, if you’re sure the shipping isn’t taxed, as BL’s fee isn’t on the shipping,
and as the buyer is okay with that, I don’t see why it should all go through
BL.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 07:16 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, firestar246 writes:
| | So I just had a buyer who wanted a special shipping delivery not follow instructions
and choose one of my normal shipping options instead of the Invoice Method. He
wants me to charge him the extra through paypal. My question is: Is that ok regarding
taxes? Or does the whole payment need to go through BL?
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There may be taxes to be paid on the extra:
USA: it depends on the state.
EU: the €150 threshold is only on the product (“intrinsic value”) but the amount
on which VAT is calculated includes the transport.
(Plus, all should be on the invoice, otherwise the customs may not like the discrepancy.)
Now, if you’re sure the shipping isn’t taxed, as BL’s fee isn’t on the shipping,
and as the buyer is okay with that, I don’t see why it should all go through
BL.
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That's what I'm not sure about, whether the taxes are also applied on
the shipping. Also for accounting reasons, it's nice to have everything in
one place rather than multiple payment for the same order. I think I'll just
cancel and have him reorder (only two lots, so it shouldn't be too bad for
the buyer) and make crystal clear that he needs to choose the invoice method.
Sometimes I think people just read the first sentence of a message and nothing
else.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | negative | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 23:01 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| | | Sometimes I think people just read the first sentence of a message and nothing
else.
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There's no "sometimes" about it. That's where we are at now.
I used to try to keep my emails to 3 sentences or less because I knew that's
all people would read.
Now I have to remember that people don't read emails at all. I don't
know what the current online messaging formats are, so I am lucky if I can get
through to people with texts of less than 5 words.
Thank you
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2021 06:26 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, negative writes:
| | | | Sometimes I think people just read the first sentence of a message and nothing
else.
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There's no "sometimes" about it. That's where we are at now.
I used to try to keep my emails to 3 sentences or less because I knew that's
all people would read.
Now I have to remember that people don't read emails at all. I don't
know what the current online messaging formats are, so I am lucky if I can get
through to people with texts of less than 5 words.
Thank you
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I haven't had too much of a problem with it, but this customer was something
else. First didn't choose correct shipping method. Through contact his responses
to questions were extremely vague. Finally figured out he wanted fedex overnight
shipping, then he misspelled our email when sending the extra money for shipping.
Finally got the money to us. It took almost two days to get through all this,
whereas if he had just read my first message about choosing the Invoice Method,
this would've taken but a couple hours.
And who pays almost $70 to overnight ship $7 worth of pieces?
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 10:04 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| Policies for online sales/use tax collection vis-à-vis individual states, irrespective
BL's third party's use of them. Unfortunately, the site's answer
to your subject-line question is somewhat ambiguous. Which is understandable
as the whole thing is morphing as we speak. Nature of the Federalist system of
governance, checks and balances through clumsy and slow, incremental changes.
See bullet point #15: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2501
States where shipping is taxable if you charge for shipping as part of an order
then it’s taxable. It doesn’t matter if the shipping charge is part of the price
of the item or if it’s listed separately from the price of the item.
Arkansas
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois (exceptions apply)
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Nebraska
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
States where shipping is not taxable if separately stated, but are taxable if
you include the charge as part of the price of the item.
Alabama
Arizona
California
Colorado
Florida (exceptions apply)
Idaho
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland (Like Virginia, if shipping and handling are combined shipping is taxable)
Massachusetts
Missouri (exceptions apply)
Nevada
Oklahoma
Utah
Virginia (if shipping and handling charges are combined, that charge is taxable)
Wyoming
Updated July 17, 2020.
Keep in mind this opportunity for states' revenue-grab is relatively new
in political timelines, so the polices and state laws therein are progressing
quickly. In other words, check for updates yourself.
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 10:16 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, popsicle writes:
| | Policies for online sales/use tax collection vis-à-vis individual states, irrespective
BL's third party's use of them. Unfortunately, the site's answer
to your subject-line question is somewhat ambiguous. Which is understandable
as the whole thing is morphing as we speak. Nature of the Federalist system of
governance, checks and balances through clumsy and slow, incremental changes.
See bullet point #15: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2501
States where shipping is taxable if you charge for shipping as part of an order
then it’s taxable. It doesn’t matter if the shipping charge is part of the price
of the item or if it’s listed separately from the price of the item.
Arkansas
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois (exceptions apply)
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Nebraska
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
States where shipping is not taxable if separately stated, but are taxable if
you include the charge as part of the price of the item.
Alabama
Arizona
California
Colorado
Florida (exceptions apply)
Idaho
Iowa
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland (Like Virginia, if shipping and handling are combined shipping is taxable)
Massachusetts
Missouri (exceptions apply)
Nevada
Oklahoma
Utah
Virginia (if shipping and handling charges are combined, that charge is taxable)
Wyoming
Updated July 17, 2020.
Keep in mind this opportunity for states' revenue-grab is relatively new
in political timelines, so the polices and state laws therein are progressing
quickly. In other words, check for updates yourself.
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Of course taxes for transnational sales are that other large can-of-worms over
there in the corner 
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2021 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, popsicle writes:
| | Florida (exceptions apply)
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exceptions isn't the word for it, it should be more like BSC (and I'm
using an acronym to avoid upsetting the mods). Florida operates on it's own
plane, in a somewhat dysfunctional galactic dimension. 
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2021 06:18 | | Subject: | Re: Are taxes for total price including shipping. | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| | Thank you so much for that information! |
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