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 Author: Reki_Lobsheek View Messages Posted By Reki_Lobsheek
 Posted: Sep 16, 2021 09:16
 Subject: warning regarding IOSS
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 Topic: Buying
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Reki_Lobsheek (2465)

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A fair warning to European buyers purchasing items outside of the EU:
When you buy from a shop that is on a platform that is registered as an IOSS
(https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/ioss_en) or when that shop itself has
regsitered for IOSS you will pay the VAT % of your member state directly to that
seller.

However, if that seller fails to properly enter the applicable IOSS nr
in their customs declaration (or if their carrier fails to do so) you will end
up paying VAT again at entry into the EU.
You won't be able to reclaim that money from your carrier as it's
the sender's responsibility to clearly and correctly fill in the IOSS
nr in the declaration (aka CN22 or CN23).
In those cases you will need to reclaim those funds from your seller.

When the IOSS ID nr is not correctly filled in on the customs declaration (and
in the correct field) there won't be a link to demonstrate the engagement
of the non-EU seller to pay the VAT to the EC, thus resulting in Customs concluding
VAT hasn't been paid.

To be fair, many member states and the involved commercial players are still
experiencing a lot of growing pains considering their new data-systems adapting
to the new declaration system, so it might not always be your seller's fault
the link was not properly made.

I would definitely advise everyone to thoroughly check with your seller (be it
on Bricklink or elsewhere) when they're offering IOSS that they're properly
filling in their customs forms so you won't end up paying VAT twice.

Should you have more questions, don't hesitate to reply or contact me via
PM.



Erikk
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Sep 16, 2021 09:51
 Subject: Re: warning regarding IOSS
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In Buying, Erkiles writes:
  A fair warning to European buyers purchasing items outside of the EU:
When you buy from a shop that is on a platform that is registered as an IOSS
(https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/ioss_en) or when that shop itself has
regsitered for IOSS you will pay the VAT % of your member state directly to that
seller.

However, if that seller fails to properly enter the applicable IOSS nr
in their customs declaration (or if their carrier fails to do so) you will end
up paying VAT again at entry into the EU.
You won't be able to reclaim that money from your carrier as it's
the sender's responsibility to clearly and correctly fill in the IOSS
nr in the declaration (aka CN22 or CN23).
In those cases you will need to reclaim those funds from your seller.

When the IOSS ID nr is not correctly filled in on the customs declaration (and
in the correct field) there won't be a link to demonstrate the engagement
of the non-EU seller to pay the VAT to the EC, thus resulting in Customs concluding
VAT hasn't been paid.

To be fair, many member states and the involved commercial players are still
experiencing a lot of growing pains considering their new data-systems adapting
to the new declaration system, so it might not always be your seller's fault
the link was not properly made.

I would definitely advise everyone to thoroughly check with your seller (be it
on Bricklink or elsewhere) when they're offering IOSS that they're properly
filling in their customs forms so you won't end up paying VAT twice.

Should you have more questions, don't hesitate to reply or contact me via
PM.



Erikk

This happened to a couple of friends here in Spain too...
I read an article that said you could, in theory ask, the seller site to refund
the VAT with proof that you paid it to the Shipping delivery company.