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| | | Author: | bahpstore  | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 15:19 | | Subject: | Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 127 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| We got an invoice from UPS for import duty charged for a bricklink order, on
which we already paid sales tax. Anybody knows what the law says on this matter?
Thank you.
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 15:23 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | We got an invoice from UPS for import duty charged for a bricklink order, on
which we already paid sales tax. Anybody knows what the law says on this matter?
Thank you.
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Is it any actual duty, or is it UPS charging a customs brokerage fee ?
For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 15:27 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 15:47 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 15:58 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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I am in Canada, but I know this.
Sales tax has nothing to do with import fees (including duties). In the USA,
goods imported of total value above certain amount ($850 ?) is subject to import
fees.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | kzinti | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:00 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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32,050 is a lot of
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:24 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, kzinti writes:
| | In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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32,050 is a lot of
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But that many would weight around 14.1 Kgs that would be 31 lbs, that doesn't
match the package wight of 11 lbs.
And Russell said sometime ago that the threshold for USA was around 800$
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Llewyn | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Ouch. For some reason that's ended up being completely mis-classified on
import. 8301.40 is the tariff code for padlocks and locks of base metal. You'd
have to look up on usitc.gov for the exact detail of 8301.40.6060 - that site
doesn't load results for me, and the UK equivalent doesn't specify 8301.40.60
at all.
No idea what, if anything, you can do about it though - I'd assume that if
the parcel had the correct customs form on it listing it as toys then you'd
be able to get this corrected, but who knows with government agencies.
In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Llewyn | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:32 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Missed out that Lego should be under construction sets and constructional toys
9503.00.3500
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 19:45 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Llewyn writes:
| | Ouch. For some reason that's ended up being completely mis-classified on
import. 8301.40 is the tariff code for padlocks and locks of base metal. You'd
have to look up on usitc.gov for the exact detail of 8301.40.6060 - that site
doesn't load results for me, and the UK equivalent doesn't specify 8301.40.60
at all.
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"Padlocks and locks of base metal" Other Locks Other Other
https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8301.40.6060
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | watch505 | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Greetings,
The harmonization code is wrong as the pervious poster stated.
The code I usually see on Lego is: 95030090
Here is how you fix it:
1. email ups import help:
aknentyrvw@ups.com
2. Provide them your tracking number
3. State the harmonization code is incorrect on the import form and provide them
the correct code: 95030090
They may be able to fix it for you.
Kind Regards, Andrew
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ash_274 | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, watch505 writes:
| | Greetings,
The harmonization code is wrong as the pervious poster stated.
The code I usually see on Lego is: 95030090
Here is how you fix it:
1. email ups import help:
aknentyrvw@ups.com
2. Provide them your tracking number
3. State the harmonization code is incorrect on the import form and provide them
the correct code: 95030090
They may be able to fix it for you.
Kind Regards, Andrew
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I'm going to restore this post as it's not a personal email address,
but an official one
-Ash
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | watch505 | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 17:02 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | Thanks for restoring, hope it helps. |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 17:17 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, ash_274 writes:
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I'm going to restore this post as it's not a personal email address,
but an official one
-Ash
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I don’t know how you didn’t see it was official right away! I mean, it’s way
clearer than an obscure support@xx or customerservices@yy!
And it’s on all UPS’s pages… not!
watch505, where did you find it? “In the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck
in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.’”?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | watch505 | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 19:30 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| It is indeed a strange address, many bothan spies died to provide us this information...or
it was provided by the UPS import billing support office.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:51 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, bricklinklp writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | For some reason I want to say that a duty might exist, but only if the declared
value of the shipment is way up there.
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Or if the package is coming from North Korea or Cuba - it does sound like a brokerage
fee, something for which UPS is (fairly or not) notorious. I've definitely
never paid a duty on any non-domestic order.
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It's a first for us as well. It's from Netherlands, but I didn't
buy 32050 BLACK PLATE ,MODIFIED 1X2 WITH DOOR, whatever it is.
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You see where it says 'Duty Class 8301.40.6060' ? You shipper/supplier
totally f'ed up the customs information.
https://hts.usitc.gov/?query=8301.40.6060
That is the code for 'OTHER LOCKS' having to do with furniture.
My suggestion is that you refuse the order, tell them to send it back, and tell
your supplier to stop sending out stupid customs forms. Maybe if they have to
eat the costs (both ways) they will learn something (like do not engage in international
shipping without knowing what you're doing).
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 20:06 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, cosmicray writes:
| | My suggestion is that you refuse the order, tell them to send it back, and tell
your supplier to stop sending out stupid customs forms. Maybe if they have to
eat the costs (both ways) they will learn something (like do not engage in international
shipping without knowing what you're doing).
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I wonder if UPS gave the harmonization code based on the description? That seems
like a very strange code for a Lego seller to use.
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| | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:40 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | watch505 | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I'm not sure were the $850 number came from.
From Europe to the USA using harmonization code 95030090
there doesn't appear to any duty: https://www.simplyduty.com/import-calculator/
I think the issue with your order is the harmonization code.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Sep 7, 2021 18:35 | | Subject: | Re: Import duty after paying sales tax? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, watch505 writes:
| | I'm not sure were the $850 number came from.
From Europe to the USA using harmonization code 95030090
there doesn't appear to any duty: https://www.simplyduty.com/import-calculator/
I think the issue with your order is the harmonization code.
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Thank you. My previous message thanking everyone is cancelled due to I copied
that UPS email address.
Just want to say thank you to everybody. I won't clog the forum by replying
every messages. I'm very grateful to everyone's help! THANK YOU!!!
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