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| | | Author: | DarioCruz  | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 14:28 | | Subject: | VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 160 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Good afternoon
Could you let me know which billing program you use that is compatible with bricklink?
Another question is: if I sell €100 to another European country, will I pay the
vat of the country of destination and will I still have to pay the VAT in my
country or not?
Thanks in advance
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 14:46 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | Good afternoon
Could you let me know which billing program you use that is compatible with bricklink?
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I don’t think there is one: you need to do everything yourself (either manually
or with programs using the BL API…).
| | Another question is: if I sell €100 to another European country, will I pay the
vat of the country of destination and will I still have to pay the VAT in my
country or not?
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First, technically, it’s not the seller who pays VAT, it’s their buyers. The
sellers may collect VAT….
But if you sell below 10,000€ per year to other EU country (so, not counting
your sales in Portugal, you’ll need a hundred buyers at €100), you don’t have
to register to anything.
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| | | | | | | Author: | DarioCruz | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| ok
But if i sell more then 10000€ anual to europe what did i have to do?
how can i see how much i sell to europe?
Best regards
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | ok
But if i sell more then 10000€ anual to europe what did i have to do?
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Then you have the choice to either:
— register for VAT in each EU country you sell to,
— or only register to the Portuguese One-Stop Shop (balcão único?) for VAT.
The OSS is obviously the simplest.
To register, you’ll need an EU VAT number. Your Chamber of Commerce should be
able to give you one.
Once you’re registered to the OSS, you’ll need to collect VAT from your EU buyers,
you’ll need to report your EU sales on the OSS website and remit the VAT you
collected (= give the VAT money) every quarter (3 months).
Now, as far I understand it, having a VAT number and having to collect in other
EU countries shouldn’t force you to collect VAT in your own country too (if you’re
still under your country’s VAT threshold)… but in order to collect VAT from your
EU buyers, BL wants you to activate VAT in your shop, so you’ll have to collect
VAT in Portugal too.
That may mean more than asking for a VAT number, it may mean changing your business
status.
In short: You should ask your Chamber of Commerce.
| | how can i see how much i sell to europe?
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Download your sales and calculate?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DarioCruz | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:36 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:40 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
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You can change the date to download older orders.
You won’t have the details but the countries and amounts should be there.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DarioCruz | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| thanks again.
Please advice whith billing program is compatibly whit bricklink?
Did bricklink gives a warning before i passe the 10000€ a year in european sales?
Best regards
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | thanks again.
Please advice whith billing program is compatibly whit bricklink?
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Already answered: I don’t know of one.
| | Did bricklink gives a warning before i passe the 10000€ a year in european sales?
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I don’t know.
In the message:
“BrickLink does not assume any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying
sellers about their VAT registration obligations.”
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1294893
But later, Admin_Russell said:
“We have the data on this and will be individually contacting sellers that fall
into that category. Discovering which sellers are over the limit is a legal requirement
for us.”
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1294896
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 16:11 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 120 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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Except for order item inventories, much can be gleaned from the download. Certainly
information pertinent for taxes and bookkeeping, in most cases: https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp
For both orders received and placed, in perpetuity from your first transaction.
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DarioCruz | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 15:36 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 17, 2021 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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IMO it's best to do as much outside of BL as possible. I simply take Bricklink
as a hatch that gives me money and a list of parts, that's all. I don't
use Bricklink's calculations or invoices at all. I just take the order
and process everything myself. You'll need your own / third party software
or some other system (Excell?) to do that. If you rely on Bricklink you'll
never know when you run into problems because Bricklink doesn't always understand
what it's like being a seller in the EU. You'll probably be obligated
to keep tax records for several years, so it's best to just have your own
offline administration for this, outside of Bricklink. Just my 2 cents.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ErwinNL | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 03:40 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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Hi DarioCruz,
Maybe my app can help you, it can show you how much you sold in the past year
to countries inside the EU (excluding your own).
https://inspacesoftware.com/blsmanager/
It doesn't do billing yet but I might add that in the future.
Note: for the stats to be correct the app has to download order details for the
past year, this might take a bit (they will turn from beige to white).
See also: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1294887
Let me know if you need any help.
Kind regards,
Erwin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DarioCruz | | Posted: | Jul 19, 2021 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Thanks for the info i will try it.
Best regards
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Jul 18, 2021 09:27 | | Subject: | Re: VAT and billing | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, DarioCruz writes:
| | the bills are only available for the last 6 months so its hard to see all?
Thanks for the help
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You can download all your orders here: https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp?orderType=received
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