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| | | Author: | oasis  | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 13:36 | | Subject: | Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 185 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| sorry, some of these rules are being answered clearly enough
I'm in the US.. a guy in Sweden ordered and invoiced on the 29th, but didn't
pay til today..
almost $300 US, so way over the 150 EU limit?
is VAT due?
is it supposed to show up automatically?
Paypal shipping thinks it's included, wants a VAT/IOSS number for the customs
form
thanks for the help
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, oasis writes:
| | sorry, some of these rules are being answered clearly enough
I'm in the US.. a guy in Sweden ordered and invoiced on the 29th, but didn't
pay til today..
almost $300 US, so way over the 150 EU limit?
is VAT due?
is it supposed to show up automatically?
Paypal shipping thinks it's included, wants a VAT/IOSS number for the customs
form
thanks for the help
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Could you post a screenshot of the Bricklink top right details?
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| | | | | | | Author: | oasis | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | here's the pic.. thanks |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, oasis writes:
I'm guessing BL didn't assess and collect VAT because the invoice was
sent on 6/29.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 16:04 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, oasis writes:
I'm guessing BL didn't assess and collect VAT because the invoice was
sent on 6/29.
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Hmm, shouldn’t the assessment and collection (re)done when the buyer pays?
Anyway, even if it were today, it’s above €150, so BL wouldn’t assess and collect
VAT on this sale.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 16:08 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | Anyway, even if it were today, it’s above €150, so BL wouldn’t assess and collect
VAT on this sale.
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True! I forgot about that...
| | Hmm, shouldn’t the assessment and collection (re)done when the buyer pays?
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Kind of bad form to charge a fee that isn't on the invoice, don't you
think?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 16:21 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
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| | Hmm, shouldn’t the assessment and collection (re)done when the buyer pays?
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Kind of bad form to charge a fee that isn't on the invoice, don't you
think?
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Indeed 
But, they could also send a new invoice.
Actually, IIRC, the payment can still be pending because the limit is set at
the date the package was sent: if it was sent before July 1st, then it’s okay
if VAT wasn’t collected by the marketplace, otherwise, it should have been collected
and Customs can then be very unhappy… well, okay, they always can and I’m sure
they are more lenient during the transition (i.e. they just charge the VAT, no
added penalty).
But that’s still not the case here, so it’s angels on pinheads
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| | | | | Author: | oasis | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | Paypal shipping thinks it's included, wants a VAT/IOSS number for the customs form
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and I'm assuming there's one standard IOSS number for all of the lego
stuff, but I can't find that info anywhere here
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, oasis writes:
| | | | Paypal shipping thinks it's included, wants a VAT/IOSS number for the customs form
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and I'm assuming there's one standard IOSS number for all of the lego
stuff, but I can't find that info anywhere here
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517#ioss
You only get to use BL’s IOSS when BL collects the VAT.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | oasis | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 15:22 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| so in theory, this order is above the trigger point, and I'm not an EU seller,
so there is no VAT to be collected, and nothing to plug into the customs form
(the amount will show on the form)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 15:29 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, oasis writes:
| | so in theory, this order is above the trigger point, and I'm not an EU seller,
so there is no VAT to be collected, and nothing to plug into the customs form
(the amount will show on the form)
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There’s VAT to be collected but it will be “import VAT” and collected from the
buyer by Sweden’s customs or the postal services as a proxy.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2517#orderthresh
Now, that doesn’t help if PayPal insists you need an IOSS 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | oasis | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 15:55 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | it let me go past it and print, this time.. thanks, all good |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jul 1, 2021 16:05 | | Subject: | Re: Did this order just create a VAT charge? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, oasis writes:
| | it let me go past it and print, this time.. thanks, all good
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Alternative would be to use another service like Pirate Ship
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