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| | | Author: | cosmicray  | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 08:25 | | Subject: | BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 209 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Lego aims to make bricks from recycled bottles on sale in two years
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57575991
| | Toy giant Lego is aiming to put bricks made from recycled drinks bottles on shelves within two years.
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
That means they are going from ABS to PET. A leap as big as the CA → ABS in
the 1960s.
Colour me skeptical.
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 09:07 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
That means they are going from ABS to PET. A leap as big as the CA → ABS in
the 1960s.
Colour me skeptical.
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Yes, hopefully the process to produce bricks from recycled PET plastic doesn't
cause more environmental damage than using ABS in the first place.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 12:02 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, peregrinator writes:
| | In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
That means they are going from ABS to PET. A leap as big as the CA → ABS in
the 1960s.
Colour me skeptical.
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Yes, hopefully the process to produce bricks from recycled PET plastic doesn't
cause more environmental damage than using ABS in the first place.
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Yes, I just noticed that they don’t say the bricks are recyclable. They say
they prefer their products to last long but maybe that’s a way of of saying their
additive make the PET non-recyclable.
That means they’ll always need used bottles. And what happens when everybody
stops drinking in PET bottles? 
No more new bricks?
 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | Yes, I just noticed that they don’t say the bricks are recyclable. They say
they prefer their products to last long but maybe that’s a way of of saying their
additive make the PET non-recyclable.
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I'm not really worried about Lego bricks' being recyclable since they
are durable - I don't imagine very many actually get thrown away. And in
any case, plastic recycling is something of a scam - by actually using recycled
bottles to make bricks, Lego might be saving those bottles from getting dumped
on third-world countries. I was thinking about the possibility that the process
of turning recycled bottles into Lego might be more damaging to the environment
than just throwing the bottles into the ocean and making Lego out of ABS.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 12:49 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, peregrinator writes:
| | In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | Yes, I just noticed that they don’t say the bricks are recyclable. They say
they prefer their products to last long but maybe that’s a way of of saying their
additive make the PET non-recyclable.
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I'm not really worried about Lego bricks' being recyclable since they
are durable - I don't imagine very many actually get thrown away. And in
any case, plastic recycling is something of a scam - by actually using recycled
bottles to make bricks, Lego might be saving those bottles from getting dumped
on third-world countries. I was thinking about the possibility that the process
of turning recycled bottles into Lego might be more damaging to the environment
than just throwing the bottles into the ocean and making Lego out of ABS.
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Sorry, I understood that and I meant “Yes, and I also noticed…”
I was mostly joking with the end of the brick when we stop drinking from PET
bottles but their stated goal is sustainability (aka, use renewable sources),
and downcycling, even if it’s better than throwing away, is not sustainable.
Now, it appears there’s sustainable “bio-PET”, so let’s hope LEGO can use that
too (don’t know why they didn’t talk about that though, maybe talking about bottles
sells better).
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| | | | | Author: | BrickCompulsion | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 08:42 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
I am very pleased to read this from an environmental point of view but I do have
some concern regarding the colour variance of such bricks... Mind you - can it
be worse than it is at the moment ?
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| | | | | Author: | stansbrickstore | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 09:02 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Does anyone know if they're still working on making bricks from plants. I
can remember they released the plants from plants set a few years ago, but I'm
not sure if anything came from it.
Stan. 
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 09:06 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, stansbrickstore writes:
| | Does anyone know if they're still working on making bricks from plants. I
can remember they released the plants from plants set a few years ago, but I'm
not sure if anything came from it.
Stan.
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Those are the smaller, flexible pieces I believe
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, peregrinator writes:
| | In LEGO, stansbrickstore writes:
| | Does anyone know if they're still working on making bricks from plants. I
can remember they released the plants from plants set a few years ago, but I'm
not sure if anything came from it.
Stan.
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Those are the smaller, flexible pieces I believe
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Not necessarily smaller: trees and leaves…
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| | | | | | | Author: | donja_nl | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 11:14 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| They had also real bricks 2x4 Lego and 2x2 Duplo, wich felt good. And looked
good too. That was back in 2017. I don't know the development since then.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 11:37 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Hopefully this new plastic performs better than what is used now for torsos.
The torso sides are constantly cracking.
In LEGO, donja_nl writes:
| | They had also real bricks 2x4 Lego and 2x2 Duplo, wich felt good. And looked
good too. That was back in 2017. I don't know the development since then.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, zorbanj writes:
| | Hopefully this new plastic performs better than what is used now for torsos.
The torso sides are constantly cracking.
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The studs, on the top of hips, insert deeper into a torso than the normal stud
into a brick/plate. If anything, hips -to- torso may be the torture test for
any replacement substance.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | pgremeau | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 15:30 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, stansbrickstore writes:
| | Does anyone know if they're still working on making bricks from plants. I
can remember they released the plants from plants set a few years ago, but I'm
not sure if anything came from it.
Stan.
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If you look at the recent bonsai set the box has the symbol to indicate
parts made from plants. But it's really just for the specific leaf pieces,
I think.
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 18:02 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
One thing that no one has brought up, is what effect will bricks made from other
plastics have on the BL site. We can, within some margin of certainty, differentiate
CA from ABS, and I believe for those parts that are CA, list them in special
catalog entries (because the number of part types from the CA era was small).
What happens when the 2x4 brick begins to be distributed made from rPET ? Will
the catalog grow with ABS and rPET varieties of each part ?
Inquiring minds, etc.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 23, 2021 18:14 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
| | […]
One thing that no one has brought up, is what effect will bricks made from other
plastics have on the BL site. We can, within some margin of certainty, differentiate
CA from ABS, and I believe for those parts that are CA, list them in special
catalog entries (because the number of part types from the CA era was small).
What happens when the 2x4 brick begins to be distributed made from rPET ? Will
the catalog grow with ABS and rPET varieties of each part ?
Inquiring minds, etc.
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The catalogue has a few years to find a way to better handle such variants….
Though if it’s difficult to tell the difference, and as we don’t know yet if
it is / will be, I guess there’s not much incentive to start thinking about it.
Hmm….
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jun 24, 2021 05:51 | | Subject: | Re: BBC: LEGO bricks from recycled bottles | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | In LEGO, cosmicray writes:
| | […]
One thing that no one has brought up, is what effect will bricks made from other
plastics have on the BL site. We can, within some margin of certainty, differentiate
CA from ABS, and I believe for those parts that are CA, list them in special
catalog entries (because the number of part types from the CA era was small).
What happens when the 2x4 brick begins to be distributed made from rPET ? Will
the catalog grow with ABS and rPET varieties of each part ?
Inquiring minds, etc.
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The catalogue has a few years to find a way to better handle such variants….
Though if it’s difficult to tell the difference, and as we don’t know yet if
it is / will be, I guess there’s not much incentive to start thinking about it.
Hmm….
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At least I think that 2x4 brick has a new mould number, 40096 or something
like that, it can be seen in the new elementary video at 0:44
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