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 Author: alexbinary View Messages Posted By alexbinary
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 Subject: Is it allowed to dropship from TLG ?
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alexbinary (250)

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Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
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In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

No, items must be in hand. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103
8. Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand.
 Author: alexbinary View Messages Posted By alexbinary
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In Selling, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

No, items must be in hand. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103
8. Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand.

Seems clear enough, thanks
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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MrPetovan (949)

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Beyond being allowed/legal, it is incredibly shitty and shouldn't be considered
regardless.

In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: May 24, 2021 08:07
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In Selling, MrPetovan writes:
  Beyond being allowed/legal,


It isn't. It's against BL ToS.
 Author: alexbinary View Messages Posted By alexbinary
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In Selling, MrPetovan writes:
  Beyond being allowed/legal, it is incredibly shitty and shouldn't be considered
regardless.

In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

Why is it shitty?
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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MrPetovan (949)

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Because you are selling in your name an inventory that isn't yours to sell
in the first place. It makes sense in the BrickLink context for sellers short
of a few parts they thought they have and want to make good on their orders,
but whole sets from LEGO production runs aren't the same ballgame.

In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  In Selling, MrPetovan writes:
  Beyond being allowed/legal, it is incredibly shitty and shouldn't be considered
regardless.

In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

Why is it shitty?
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: May 24, 2021 08:07
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In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

On Bricklink you are only allowed to list those sets you have on hand. The TOS
is very strict about this. Not adhering to this rule may see you banned.

However, if you do have the set on hand, there does not seem to be a rule against
shipping another copy of the same set - like through dropshipping from LG. As
long as you don't list more than you have on hand, this seems legitimate.
I am not sure whether this would not be frowned upon by both the community and
BL management.

A loophole? Or a business strategy? You seem to have rather many questions about
those lately!
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Selling, hpoort writes:
  In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

On Bricklink you are only allowed to list those sets you have on hand. The TOS
is very strict about this. Not adhering to this rule may see you banned.

However, if you do have the set on hand, there does not seem to be a rule against
shipping another copy of the same set - like through dropshipping from LG. As
long as you don't list more than you have on hand, this seems legitimate.
I am not sure whether this would not be frowned upon by both the community and
BL management.

A loophole? Or a business strategy? You seem to have rather many questions about
those lately!

You can sell 1 and have 2 in hand, but can't sell 2 and have 1 in hand.
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: May 24, 2021 08:12
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In Selling, Brickwilbo writes:


  
You can sell 1 and have 2 in hand, but can't sell 2 and have 1 in hand.

That's not exactly what he's saying. If I have one copy of the roller
coaster set, for example, and someone purchases it, could I theoretically ship
them one directly from TLG instead of the copy I have, then just relist the copy
I have? Not that I'd ever do that, nor would I suggest anyone do that, but
it is an interesting thought.
 Author: alexbinary View Messages Posted By alexbinary
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In Selling, firestar246 writes:
   but it is an interesting thought.

interesting thought indeed
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
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Kind of business model that relies on idiots for customers, people who don't
know they can pay less buying direct from the makers's retail store. Not
exactly a lasting recipe for success is it?

It's my biggest bugbear about Bezos's Marketplace, it's just filled
with adverts from people offering cheap goods for stupid prices in a dropship
model.


In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks
 Author: alexbinary View Messages Posted By alexbinary
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In Selling, LegoLDK writes:
  people who don't know they can pay less buying direct from the makers's retail store.

What if BL seller is able to make a better price than retail store? If BL seller
has a VIP account they get the equivalent of a 5% discount in VIP points, so
if say they resell on BL at 2% less than the retail price, I guess they still
have a 3% margin. Win-win?
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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Still a no in my book. Even worse, you are racking VIP perks for a set someone
else is buying, at this point it probably violates TLG policies as well.

In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  In Selling, LegoLDK writes:
  people who don't know they can pay less buying direct from the makers's retail store.

What if BL seller is able to make a better price than retail store? If BL seller
has a VIP account they get the equivalent of a 5% discount in VIP points, so
if say they resell on BL at 2% less than the retail price, I guess they still
have a 3% margin. Win-win?
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In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  In Selling, LegoLDK writes:
  people who don't know they can pay less buying direct from the makers's retail store.

What if BL seller is able to make a better price than retail store? If BL seller
has a VIP account they get the equivalent of a 5% discount in VIP points, so
if say they resell on BL at 2% less than the retail price, I guess they still
have a 3% margin. Win-win?

That 3% would be eaten up just by the BrickLink fee not to mention the other
3%+ that PayPal charges and the shipping materials so I would think that they
would need to have at least a 20 to 30 percent markup to make it worth it.

Jim
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Selling, TheBrickGuys writes:
  In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  In Selling, LegoLDK writes:
  people who don't know they can pay less buying direct from the makers's retail store.

What if BL seller is able to make a better price than retail store? If BL seller
has a VIP account they get the equivalent of a 5% discount in VIP points, so
if say they resell on BL at 2% less than the retail price, I guess they still
have a 3% margin. Win-win?

That 3% would be eaten up just by the BrickLink fee not to mention the other
3%+ that PayPal charges and the shipping materials so I would think that they
would need to have at least a 20 to 30 percent markup to make it worth it.

There wouldn't be any cost associated with shipping in this case, I think
- it would be shipped from Lego for free (I'm assuming the set would cost
enough to get free shipping, anyway). Of course then you have the possibility
of the set's being damaged due to the famous Lego shipping...

I have resold (but not drop-shipped) sets that I've gotten on Lego.com, even
at below the retail price, when there was a GWP I particularly wanted and didn't
want to part anything out. That can make sense but drop-shipping would be impossible
in that case.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
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In Selling, alexbinary writes:
  Just wondering if this is allowed/legal to do on BrickLink and what people think
about it : list sets on your BrickLink store, and if someone orders one, buy
it on LEGO.com and have it shipped directly to your customer.

Thanks

What makes you think that a set currently available on LEGO.com, would not be
available at the vast majority of retailers worldwide ? There may be a few that
are online exclusive, but how they would find you as a seller, and not find it
on LEGO.com is beyond me.

Nita Rae
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Just wondering how you could profit from such a weird "business scheme". TLG
already has the highest prices around for Lego items. If you want to take a profit
on that you would be asking a price that's almost double the MSRP of most
toy retailers or BL stores.
Would the next step of your plan involve luring people who have a mental handicap
to your store?
Sorry to be so blunt, but I have a deep hatred for drop shippers as 99% of them
are blantant scammers preying on the easily manipulated or impulse buyers.

Furthermore: how would you have Lego shipping "your" order to your client? Your
shipping address is linked to your account. If you're gonna start changing
the deliver address for each order you place TLG will know soon enough what you're
up to.

It's IMO sad to see to which levels people are stooping just to profit from
AFOLs enthusiasm for a product.



Erikk
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In Selling, Erkiles writes:
  Just wondering how you could profit from such a weird "business scheme".

Does Lego's site (or any other site for that matter) offer free shipping?
If so, that's one way this scheme could result in potential profits.

I recently sold a boxed set here that cost more than $50 to ship. It was a retired
set, but if a similar sale happened for a current set, someone could theoretically
charge the BL buyer for shipping, have it shipped for free from Lego and keep
the substantial shipping charges.

If a BL seller offered a set that retails for $100 for $90, they could potentially
pull in some deal-seekers. Some of them might not know or think about the potential
free shipping from other sites and pull the trigger. The seller charges them
the USPS rate of ~$50 for a large box and pockets the difference.

It's a lot of work and there are a few 'ifs' in there, but it is
an angle.


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Something else I just realized; there's a limit to the amount of one kind
of set an account can purchase on Lego.com; it's usually 3. So there is
no way someone could make it worthwhile with that kind of limit.