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| | | Author: | dredabeast24  | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 00:35 | | Subject: | USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 196 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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| | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 01:11 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| Understandably frustrating especially when you make all your profit off shipping
and fees.
Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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| | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 07:33 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| Do you have any evidence for your claims?
In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 09:12 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| Veering off topic, but you can see for yourself by putting a few things in your
cart for this store.
In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Do you have any evidence for your claims?
In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 09:19 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| Are you talking about the low lot limit and the above average shipping and handling
fee? Not sure about the fee collection bypass nor the price guide skew.
In Shipping, zorbanj writes:
| | Veering off topic, but you can see for yourself by putting a few things in your
cart for this store.
In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Do you have any evidence for your claims?
In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 09:25 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Are you talking about the low lot limit and the above average shipping and handling
fee? Not sure about the fee collection bypass nor the price guide skew.
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If you make profit off of shipping, you can set your item prices artificially
low, which can screw up the price guide (depending on how many of the items are
available/have been sold) and means less in fees for BrickLink.
I've not looked at the OP's prices so I don't know if that's
the case here.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 10:23 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| The prices definitely are on the lower end of the price guide without being the
absolute bottom, and the shipping is above average while not being outrageous
like the $14 shipping I've had to pay yesterday for a $20 parts order (from
Canada to the US, granted).
So if they are planning on making a profit off shipping and handling fees by
selling parts cheaper, they aren't doing an egregious job of it.
In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
| | In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Are you talking about the low lot limit and the above average shipping and handling
fee? Not sure about the fee collection bypass nor the price guide skew.
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If you make profit off of shipping, you can set your item prices artificially
low, which can screw up the price guide (depending on how many of the items are
available/have been sold) and means less in fees for BrickLink.
I've not looked at the OP's prices so I don't know if that's
the case here.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Captain_Q | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | The prices definitely are on the lower end of the price guide without being the
absolute bottom, and the shipping is above average while not being outrageous
like the $14 shipping I've had to pay yesterday for a $20 parts order (from
Canada to the US, granted).
So if they are planning on making a profit off shipping and handling fees by
selling parts cheaper, they aren't doing an egregious job of it.
In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
| | In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Are you talking about the low lot limit and the above average shipping and handling
fee? Not sure about the fee collection bypass nor the price guide skew.
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If you make profit off of shipping, you can set your item prices artificially
low, which can screw up the price guide (depending on how many of the items are
available/have been sold) and means less in fees for BrickLink.
I've not looked at the OP's prices so I don't know if that's
the case here.
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Sort items by price.
About Half of OPs lots sell for 1 cent or less. 500 or so lots at .001
Highest valued item is 53 cents, which is lowest available by a fair amount
Outside of the 1 cent items, a lot of other items look pretty cheap as well
Lot limit of 3
$1.25 fee for orders under $3
Lowest shipping price is pretty steep at $6.50, typical in US domestic is around
$4 for most stores.
OP is definitely making money pretty much exclusively off of fees and shipping.
Good feedback rating so customers don’t seem to mind. Seems unorthodox to me,
but if it works, it works. So good for the OP imo. But if it is used to bypass
BL fees, then this may be problematic in the future for OP.
I do agree about the message about USPS. Under Dejoy, quality of service of USPS
has taken a sharp dive. The quantity of late shipping rates, IMO, has spiked
probably 500% over the last year, from my perspective. 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 12:59 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Captain_Q writes:
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OP is definitely making money pretty much exclusively off of fees and shipping.
Good feedback rating so customers don’t seem to mind. Seems unorthodox to me,
but if it works, it works. So good for the OP imo. But if it is used to bypass
BL fees, then this may be problematic in the future for OP.
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Thank you for your research. So the profit would be at most a couple dollars
per order given the prices. This hardly covers the time spent since this business
model heavily depends on the order volume rather than selling a few expensive
parts, I personally don't have a problem with that.
And how would this circumvent BL fees? Are they only calculated on part price?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | And how would this circumvent BL fees? Are they only calculated on part price?
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Correct - shipping, taxes, etc. are not included.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Captain_Q | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | In Shipping, Captain_Q writes:
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OP is definitely making money pretty much exclusively off of fees and shipping.
Good feedback rating so customers don’t seem to mind. Seems unorthodox to me,
but if it works, it works. So good for the OP imo. But if it is used to bypass
BL fees, then this may be problematic in the future for OP.
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Thank you for your research. So the profit would be at most a couple dollars
per order given the prices. This hardly covers the time spent since this business
model heavily depends on the order volume rather than selling a few expensive
parts, I personally don't have a problem with that.
And how would this circumvent BL fees? Are they only calculated on part price?
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Considering that these orders are only three lots max, you could probably pack
upwards of 15 to 25 of these orders an hour depending how efficient your setup
is. And if the orders are all the same weight bracket then it would be easy
to apply a preset in the PayPal shipping manager and streamline the packing process.
Since there are only 3 lots allowed that probably is guaranteed to have all orders
be less than 4 ounces, which means shipping can cost anywhere from ~$3 to ~$3.50
with the current regional USPS cost setup. Add the $1.25 fee and that is a potential
~$4.25 gross profit on each order, minus the cost of goods, listing fees and
the time spent listing them.
I am not sure if this does or does not circumvent BL fees. I was basing that
assumption from what randyipp stated.
| | "Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
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and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. "
Sellers use to do this on ebay, selling items for dirt cheap to beat out other
sellers, but then charge absurd shipping fees because ebay only charged a listing
fee for the items. That was ages ago, now ebay charges fees for both and penalizes
absurd shipping prices.
So if what the OP does indeed bypass BL fees then this could end up being problematic
for them. I don't really know if BL does charge their nominal fee on shipping
as well. I should probably know as a seller, but since BL's fees are so
low I don't really care. lol
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | dredabeast24 | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Captain_Q writes:
| | In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | In Shipping, Captain_Q writes:
| | [...]
OP is definitely making money pretty much exclusively off of fees and shipping.
Good feedback rating so customers don’t seem to mind. Seems unorthodox to me,
but if it works, it works. So good for the OP imo. But if it is used to bypass
BL fees, then this may be problematic in the future for OP.
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Thank you for your research. So the profit would be at most a couple dollars
per order given the prices. This hardly covers the time spent since this business
model heavily depends on the order volume rather than selling a few expensive
parts, I personally don't have a problem with that.
And how would this circumvent BL fees? Are they only calculated on part price?
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Considering that these orders are only three lots max, you could probably pack
upwards of 15 to 25 of these orders an hour depending how efficient your setup
is. And if the orders are all the same weight bracket then it would be easy
to apply a preset in the PayPal shipping manager and streamline the packing process.
Since there are only 3 lots allowed that probably is guaranteed to have all orders
be less than 4 ounces, which means shipping can cost anywhere from ~$3 to ~$3.50
with the current regional USPS cost setup. Add the $1.25 fee and that is a potential
~$4.25 gross profit on each order, minus the cost of goods, listing fees and
the time spent listing them.
I am not sure if this does or does not circumvent BL fees. I was basing that
assumption from what randyipp stated.
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and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. "
Sellers use to do this on ebay, selling items for dirt cheap to beat out other
sellers, but then charge absurd shipping fees because ebay only charged a listing
fee for the items. That was ages ago, now ebay charges fees for both and penalizes
absurd shipping prices.
So if what the OP does indeed bypass BL fees then this could end up being problematic
for them. I don't really know if BL does charge their nominal fee on shipping
as well. I should probably know as a seller, but since BL's fees are so
low I don't really care. lol
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After Paypal fees, I normally get about $6-$3.3shipping, and everything else
I end up making around $2.5 an order before inventory costs. Inventory costs
do bring that number down a bit though since it is getting harder and harder
to source inventory.
I would be happy to pay BL fees on the additional charges, I am not quite sure
why they don't right now. I run a second store in my partner's name that
does bulk selling so I pay an arm and a leg over there which, in my opinion,
helps balance it out.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | After Paypal fees, I normally get about $6-$3.3shipping, and everything else
I end up making around $2.5 an order before inventory costs. Inventory costs
do bring that number down a bit though since it is getting harder and harder
to source inventory.
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I assume you meant $6-$6.3 for shipping, which is still abnormally high for domestic
shipping via First Class package up to 13 ounces which you would probably never
reach with a 3 lots limit.
How are you paying for shipping? Paypal offers attractive shipping prices accessible
directly from the transaction itself. From there you could potentially lower
both your shipping fees and some raised eyebrows regarding your business model.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | dredabeast24 | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Are you talking about the low lot limit and the above average shipping and handling
fee? Not sure about the fee collection bypass nor the price guide skew.
In Shipping, zorbanj writes:
| | Veering off topic, but you can see for yourself by putting a few things in your
cart for this store.
In Shipping, MrPetovan writes:
| | Do you have any evidence for your claims?
In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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I don't sell enough to skew it, it will be one or two sales per part. When
I sell 2 or 4 pieces out of the total 300,000 sold it won't change it at
all.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 08:42 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Understandably frustrating especially when you make all your profit off shipping
and fees.
Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, nor is it any help.
To OP, that is frustrating; I haven't had nearly as many problems with that,
but there are certain offices that my packages hit where they just sit for several
days.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | dredabeast24 | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, firestar246 writes:
| | In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Understandably frustrating especially when you make all your profit off shipping
and fees.
Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, nor is it any help.
To OP, that is frustrating; I haven't had nearly as many problems with that,
but there are certain offices that my packages hit where they just sit for several
days.
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They seemingly all end up like this one. https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400128206334286297444
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | In Shipping, firestar246 writes:
| | In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Understandably frustrating especially when you make all your profit off shipping
and fees.
Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, nor is it any help.
To OP, that is frustrating; I haven't had nearly as many problems with that,
but there are certain offices that my packages hit where they just sit for several
days.
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They seemingly all end up like this one. https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400128206334286297444
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Yep, happens all the time for the Springfield, MO post office where lots of my
packages unfortunately get sent through. Some take a couple of days, some a couple
of weeks, but they all go through eventually. Haven't had one or go missing
in over a year.
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| | | | | | | Author: | dredabeast24 | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 11:46 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, randyipp writes:
| | Understandably frustrating especially when you make all your profit off shipping
and fees.
Guess you just have to deal with it, like Bricklink deals with you making a profit
and bypassing almost all fee collections from your business. All this while
simultaneously skewing the price guide.
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I do deal with it, I replace all lost orders, it just gets annoying when the
account for replacements balloons.
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| | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 08:48 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| What do you do for your customers in these situations? In your terms you state:
"All Domestic orders have insurance provided by me, any orders lost in the mail
will be replaced by me or another store."
But then a few sentences later you state:
"Please note that after an item has been shipped, it is in the hands of USPS.
I will not be responsible for any lost packages after being shipped."
 These two policies seem to be in conflict.
In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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| | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 09:14 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| More importantly, the latter policy is void and null. Both BrickLink and PayPal
will hold the seller responsible for the package until the buyer has received
it and verified its contents.
This is the very basis of a particular form of scam where a buyer claims that
the package was faulty after they already removed parts/sets from it.
In Shipping, chetzler writes:
| | What do you do for your customers in these situations? In your terms you state:
"All Domestic orders have insurance provided by me, any orders lost in the mail
will be replaced by me or another store."
But then a few sentences later you state:
"Please note that after an item has been shipped, it is in the hands of USPS.
I will not be responsible for any lost packages after being shipped."
These two policies seem to be in conflict.
In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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| | | | | | | Author: | dredabeast24 | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 11:50 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, chetzler writes:
| | What do you do for your customers in these situations? In your terms you state:
"All Domestic orders have insurance provided by me, any orders lost in the mail
will be replaced by me or another store."
But then a few sentences later you state:
"Please note that after an item has been shipped, it is in the hands of USPS.
I will not be responsible for any lost packages after being shipped."
These two policies seem to be in conflict.
In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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I replace everything. I do that for legal reasons so in case a buyer does seem
to screw me I can always revert to that one.
I still do cover all lost packages though.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, jennnifer writes:
I have a couple of incoming packages sitting around in Chicago. I don't
blame you.
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 17:13 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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I've seen some delays in letter mail heading north from Florida. One order
by mail to MN, took 25 days before the recipient acknowledged receipt. I am also
having some delays with inbound parcels to Florida, but mostly with FedEx Ground
(who seems to always estimate delivery one day before actual delivery).
If my BL order volume is any indicator, people are (yet again) pressing the Buy
button like an elevator that they have been awaiting for 20 minutes.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | Author: | brac.brick | | Posted: | May 10, 2021 20:22 | | Subject: | Re: USPS being God Awful again? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, dredabeast24 writes:
| | I have had so many problems with USPS this year.
It seems that every few days I get packages that will be scanned once and then
never scanned again and have a Perma banner "Arriving late"
I also have the classic, only scan is the delivery scan. This one is fun because
it looks like I never shipped it.
I normally have them come pick it up because they scan it on acceptance. Oh,
wait not anymore they just toss it into their truck, no scan.
It makes me look bad when packages are in "shipped" mode for weeks on end.
USPS needs to get better or just suspend PES altogether.
Sincerely,
A very annoyed and disgruntled customer of the United States Postal Service
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I have also notice delays - stuck in "arriving late" days after I shipped it.
It took 3 days to get from Acton MA to Boston MA last week - it's all of
25 miles and in the same part of the state. I make sure I use a kiosk and get
at least a scan accept before dropping it in the bin . That way something is
showing as scanned somewhere. The last time this happened, I opened a missing
mail claim 9 days later and lo and behold, it showed up and was delivered. Something
is definitely wrong in USPS land now- feeling like it's the holidays all
over again.
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USA, Illinois
