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| | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks  | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 04:30 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | This is very very sudden without any explanation. I am very sorry to hear this. |
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| | | | | Author: | jancg | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 05:08 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| BrickLink,
Russell,
Can you please share the reason of his departure?
Kind regards, Jan.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 05:15 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jancg writes:
| | BrickLink,
Russell,
Can you please share the reason of his departure?
Kind regards, Jan.
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Why?
The reason that a volunteer no longer volunteers is nothing to do with anyone
else. If the volunteer wants to say why then that's fine, but a company should
not give out such information without the volunteer knowing.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jancg | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Why not?
Users might be interested to know.
Maybe some user considers volunteering.
If the former volunteer doesn't want to share it's fine, but a company
can of course share this information if the former volunteer is OK with that.
Not giving such insights generally results in negative thoughts. Transparency
and clarity goes a long way!
Jan.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 08:59 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Just because people are curious about it doesn't mean they are entitled to
the information. People have lives beyond BrickLink which details they rather
not share on BrickLink, it's perfectly fine you have to respect that.
It isn't about transparency, it doesn't change anything for the BrickLink
Catalog Admin team whether you know why two of their members left it.
If StormChaser wants to share the reasons of their departure, they'll do
it, in the meantime please stop prying.
In Catalog, jancg writes:
| | Why not?
Users might be interested to know.
Maybe some user considers volunteering.
If the former volunteer doesn't want to share it's fine, but a company
can of course share this information if the former volunteer is OK with that.
Not giving such insights generally results in negative thoughts. Transparency
and clarity goes a long way!
Jan.
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 09:49 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jancg writes:
| | BrickLink,
Russell,
Can you please share the reason of his departure?
Kind regards, Jan.
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I very much doubt we are going to get one. The BrickLink office's lack of
transparency is well-documented. Personally, I think it stinks.
The catalog didn't use to be this way. I was an admin for three years. We
were members and leaders and accountable to the community. For years now, when
you ask an admin for an explanation for a decision, you get one. Robert made
the system even better with published goals, definitions, plans, and community
discussion. Every move the BL office makes to move the catalog more toward them
and away from us is bad news. They are not accountable to us, have practically
no customer service, and have very little LEGO expertise among them. They didn't
build this catalog but they did buy it. So, there we are.
I've noticed for months that our admins, who have traditionally been some
of the most vocal people here on the Forum, are now largely silent. I doubt this
is a coincidence. I wouldn't speak for them, but I will speak for me. Whatever
the reason, the admins that work so hard and support our community have my respect
and support. I think we can all see from the XP site what our catalog would look
like without them.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 10:01 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, jancg writes:
| | BrickLink,
Russell,
Can you please share the reason of his departure?
Kind regards, Jan.
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I very much doubt we are going to get one. The BrickLink office's lack of
transparency is well-documented. Personally, I think it stinks.
The catalog didn't use to be this way. I was an admin for three years. We
were members and leaders and accountable to the community. For years now, when
you ask an admin for an explanation for a decision, you get one. Robert made
the system even better with published goals, definitions, plans, and community
discussion. Every move the BL office makes to move the catalog more toward them
and away from us is bad news. They are not accountable to us, have practically
no customer service, and have very little LEGO expertise among them. They didn't
build this catalog but they did buy it. So, there we are.
I've noticed for months that our admins, who have traditionally been some
of the most vocal people here on the Forum, are now largely silent. I doubt this
is a coincidence. I wouldn't speak for them, but I will speak for me. Whatever
the reason, the admins that work so hard and support our community have my respect
and support. I think we can all see from the XP site what our catalog would look
like without them.
Jen
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+10
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I very much doubt we are going to get one. The BrickLink office's lack of
transparency is well-documented. Personally, I think it stinks.
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There are two different types of transparency here though - transparency about
decisions concerning the catalogue and transparency about decisions concerning
employment (whether paid for or not).
They should clearly be transparent about decisions connected to the catalogue.
However, they should not be transparent about why someone is no longer doing
something they used to do. It could be a whole range of things, from wanting
payment for voluntary work, a difference of opinion over part movements or definitions,
things moving at the wrong speed, through to more personal reasons such as someone
deciding they cannot do it for employment or medical or family reasons or just
that they have done it long enough and want a break. Unless the person involved
wants to tell us, then I don't think we need to know the reasons. I don't
see that as a lack of transparency, just privacy.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 14:16 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | I very much doubt we are going to get one. The BrickLink office's lack of
transparency is well-documented. Personally, I think it stinks.
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There are two different types of transparency here though - transparency about
decisions concerning the catalogue and transparency about decisions concerning
employment (whether paid for or not).
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+1
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | I very much doubt we are going to get one. The BrickLink office's lack of
transparency is well-documented. Personally, I think it stinks.
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There are two different types of transparency here though - transparency about
decisions concerning the catalogue and transparency about decisions concerning
employment (whether paid for or not).
They should clearly be transparent about decisions connected to the catalogue.
However, they should not be transparent about why someone is no longer doing
something they used to do. It could be a whole range of things, from wanting
payment for voluntary work, a difference of opinion over part movements or definitions,
things moving at the wrong speed, through to more personal reasons such as someone
deciding they cannot do it for employment or medical or family reasons or just
that they have done it long enough and want a break. Unless the person involved
wants to tell us, then I don't think we need to know the reasons. I don't
see that as a lack of transparency, just privacy.
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+1
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| | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 06:08 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear community,
We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program. We will be updating the Community Admin
page soon.
StormChaser has positively influenced the catalog in many ways, and his passion
for documentation and organization are legendary. We are planning to move ahead
with initiatives he has set in motion and keep alive his vision for a better
catalog.
We must also mention that this is a difficult time for the catalog team, as they
have lost two very experienced admins since the beginning of the year. In the
coming weeks we will announce some plans for the future.
The BrickLink Team
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I'm very suprised of his departure
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| | | | | Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 10:05 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear community,
We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program. We will be updating the Community Admin
page soon.
StormChaser has positively influenced the catalog in many ways, and his passion
for documentation and organization are legendary. We are planning to move ahead
with initiatives he has set in motion and keep alive his vision for a better
catalog.
We must also mention that this is a difficult time for the catalog team, as they
have lost two very experienced admins since the beginning of the year. In the
coming weeks we will announce some plans for the future.
The BrickLink Team
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🙀
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| | | | | Author: | Heartbricker | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 12:11 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear community,
We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program. We will be updating the Community Admin
page soon.
StormChaser has positively influenced the catalog in many ways, and his passion
for documentation and organization are legendary. We are planning to move ahead
with initiatives he has set in motion and keep alive his vision for a better
catalog.
We must also mention that this is a difficult time for the catalog team, as they
have lost two very experienced admins since the beginning of the year. In the
coming weeks we will announce some plans for the future.
The BrickLink Team
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We hope he continues to be a part of the community and want to express our deepest
gratitude for his help personally to us as users and broadly to the community
here on BL.
We can't imagine what a thankless 'job' it is to volunteer for the
betterment of a community and be constantly criticized by users who can't
deal with changes even though those changes have only upgraded and elevated the
catalog.
StormChaser deserves our gratitude and not our lust to satisfy our own selfish
need to know 'why?'
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| | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 15:16 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Dear community,
We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program. We will be updating the Community Admin
page soon.
StormChaser has positively influenced the catalog in many ways, and his passion
for documentation and organization are legendary. We are planning to move ahead
with initiatives he has set in motion and keep alive his vision for a better
catalog.
We must also mention that this is a difficult time for the catalog team, as they
have lost two very experienced admins since the beginning of the year. In the
coming weeks we will announce some plans for the future.
The BrickLink Team
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We hope he continues to be a part of the community and want to express our deepest
gratitude for his help personally to us as users and broadly to the community
here on BL.
We can't imagine what a thankless 'job' it is to volunteer for the
betterment of a community and be constantly criticized by users who can't
deal with changes even though those changes have only upgraded and elevated the
catalog.
StormChaser deserves our gratitude and not our lust to satisfy our own selfish
need to know 'why?'
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VERY WELL SAID.
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 15:54 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
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| | StormChaser deserves our gratitude and not our lust to satisfy our own selfish
need to know 'why?'
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He has my gratitude. What I also feel is a sense of responsibility as a member
of this community to seek reassurance that he was treated fairly.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 140 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | | | In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
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| | StormChaser deserves our gratitude and not our lust to satisfy our own selfish
need to know 'why?'
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He has my gratitude. What I also feel is a sense of responsibility as a member
of this community to seek reassurance that he was treated fairly.
Jen
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Seems disingenuous, your expression of concern. He’s a big boy, that I don’t
believe was without compensation.
I appreciate Robert and his efforts as much as any others here, and before most:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178543
He’s quit the catalog team before though: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178543
He’s also gone to the extent of quitting BL altogether, unregistering vowing
publicly never to return: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1123830
Only to be reinstated by that evil BL office (admin) you seem incessant in denigrating.
-popsicle
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 18:29 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | | | In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
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| | StormChaser deserves our gratitude and not our lust to satisfy our own selfish
need to know 'why?'
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He has my gratitude. What I also feel is a sense of responsibility as a member
of this community to seek reassurance that he was treated fairly.
Jen
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Seems disingenuous, your expression of concern. He’s a big boy, that I don’t
believe was without compensation.
I appreciate Robert and his efforts as much as any others here, and before most:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178543
He’s quit the catalog team before though: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1178543
He’s also gone to the extent of quitting BL altogether, unregistering vowing
publicly never to return: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1123830
Only to be reinstated by that evil BL office (admin) you seem incessant in denigrating.
-popsicle
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Ouch! You got me there: I harbor no good feelings toward the BL office. However,
I do generally admire your positivity and wish I had more of it. I used to look
on the better side of things and now I don't.
There's too many things that could be better if they chose to make them better.
This rankles me. I do try to be supportive and kind when I see genuine effort.
I help newbies, I support our admin, I contribute. So, I am incessant in wanting
things to be better. You're right. 'Denigrating' implies that I am
lashing out without cause. Is that fair?
I don't feel good about what happened. I think we are worse off. If I came
across as disingenuous, that was not my intent.
Take care,
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Apr 21, 2021 19:12 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I am a curious person. I am curious about this and think it is natural to be.
I am also often frustrated by obituaries that almost never tell what happened.
No, we don't DESERVE all the details, but I totally understand why people
would be curious.
I have enjoyed many collaborations with Stormchaser. He knows how I feel about
him. Whether on staff or not in the future, I hope he will continue to contribute.
If his life has changed and he doesn't have the time, maybe he will return
later. If his feelings have been hurt and he needs some time or never wants
to come back, I understand that. There is still a lot of work to do on the catalog,
but at the end of the day none of us do it unless it is fun. Some day I will
quit. Not soon, I think. Meanwhile there are some ugly old renders and some
some undetermined coconut trees, so I'm going back to work.
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| | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Apr 28, 2021 00:31 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes
| | We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program.
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Not sure why anyone is surprised about this. There was a big catalog dump that
was largely stormchaser’s baby and it was mostly cancelled at the last minute.
Was he frustrated, probably. Is this the first time he has left BL, no. This
might not be the last we see of stormchaser. He had big ambitions, but it looks
like he wasn’t given the freedom to execute his vision. Maybe BL was right to
not make too many catalog changes at once, but maybe not... Either way, when
you get paid to do a job, it’s important to do your best within the parameters
of that job. I’m just guessing, but I think he was just ahead of his time at
BL. All the best!
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| | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jun 13, 2022 01:30 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, gogogovro writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes
| | We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program.
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Not sure why anyone is surprised about this. There was a big catalog dump that
was largely stormchaser’s baby and it was mostly cancelled at the last minute.
Was he frustrated, probably. Is this the first time he has left BL, no. This
might not be the last we see of stormchaser. He had big ambitions, but it looks
like he wasn’t given the freedom to execute his vision. Maybe BL was right to
not make too many catalog changes at once, but maybe not... Either way, when
you get paid to do a job, it’s important to do your best within the parameters
of that job. I’m just guessing, but I think he was just ahead of his time at
BL. All the best!
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Are catalog administrators compensated? I was under the impression that BrickLink
is run by unpaid volunteers.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jun 13, 2022 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Changes involving the CEP | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location:  USA, California |
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| In Catalog, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Catalog, gogogovro writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes
| | We are sad to inform you that our Catalog Adminstrator StormChaser is no longer
part of the Community Expert Program.
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Not sure why anyone is surprised about this. There was a big catalog dump that
was largely stormchaser’s baby and it was mostly cancelled at the last minute.
Was he frustrated, probably. Is this the first time he has left BL, no. This
might not be the last we see of stormchaser. He had big ambitions, but it looks
like he wasn’t given the freedom to execute his vision. Maybe BL was right to
not make too many catalog changes at once, but maybe not... Either way, when
you get paid to do a job, it’s important to do your best within the parameters
of that job. I’m just guessing, but I think he was just ahead of his time at
BL. All the best!
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Are catalog administrators compensated? I was under the impression that BrickLink
is run by unpaid volunteers.
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Yes, they are compensated with both financial rewards and non-financial rewards.
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