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 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 13:57
 Subject: What color is this gray?
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gunga (2403)

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In a large box of loose LEGO, I came across several light gray pieces that I
can't identify the color of. They are from set 41154 and the only gray listed
in the inventory is LBG. The pieces in question are the 1x1 bricks as well as
the 1x2x5 bricks. For reference, the arch, 1x4, and 2x4 are light bluish gray.
The liftarm is very light bluish gray.

I know there is a variance in the light bluish gray, but this is a pretty dramatic
shade difference. And they ALL have the same shade, every 1x1 and 1x2x5. They
are LEGO pieces as I checked the studs and the logo is present.

Any ideas? Or have I overlooked something simple?
 
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 14:17
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In Colors, gunga writes:
  In a large box of loose LEGO, I came across several light gray pieces that I
can't identify the color of. They are from set 41154 and the only gray listed
in the inventory is LBG. The pieces in question are the 1x1 bricks as well as
the 1x2x5 bricks. For reference, the arch, 1x4, and 2x4 are light bluish gray.
The liftarm is very light bluish gray.

I know there is a variance in the light bluish gray, but this is a pretty dramatic
shade difference. And they ALL have the same shade, every 1x1 and 1x2x5. They
are LEGO pieces as I checked the studs and the logo is present.

Any ideas? Or have I overlooked something simple?

If they were in a large loose box are you sure they came from 41154? Were there
any older (light gray) pieces in the box? The previous owner may have been playing
and took it apart and put it back together with some older bricks.

However, the fact that it is only certain elements (and all of those elements)
leads me to believe it was a bad batch produced this way by LEGO. Since it is
a recent set I wouldn't expect any fading or discoloration this quickly.
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 14:25
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gunga (2403)

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I am positive it is from 41154. The castle wasn't completely disassembled
and the light bright blue window only appears in that set. There were no older
regular light gray pieces in the lot.
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
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I too, have seen this difference in shade in some newer sets that contain Light
Bluish Gray.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 14:56
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In Colors, gunga writes:
  In a large box of loose LEGO, I came across several light gray pieces that I
can't identify the color of. They are from set 41154 and the only gray listed
in the inventory is LBG. The pieces in question are the 1x1 bricks as well as
the 1x2x5 bricks. For reference, the arch, 1x4, and 2x4 are light bluish gray.
The liftarm is very light bluish gray.

I know there is a variance in the light bluish gray, but this is a pretty dramatic
shade difference. And they ALL have the same shade, every 1x1 and 1x2x5. They
are LEGO pieces as I checked the studs and the logo is present.

Any ideas? Or have I overlooked something simple?

Here is a similar case with 1x1 bricks in "too light bluish gray": https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=264511&nID=1183633

It is obviously a quality issue.
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 15:45
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gunga (2403)

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Normally I would agree with you about being a quality issue. There have been
some instances where it's almost impossible to tell a 'faded' LBG
from a old light gray.

But you can tell the color difference in these parts from 10 feet away in bad
light. Add in the fact that it's two different molds in the same set, and
they have the exact same color shade... maybe a wrong batch of color mixing in
the molding process?
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Colors, gunga writes:
  Normally I would agree with you about being a quality issue. There have been
some instances where it's almost impossible to tell a 'faded' LBG
from a old light gray.

But you can tell the color difference in these parts from 10 feet away in bad
light. Add in the fact that it's two different molds in the same set, and
they have the exact same color shade... maybe a wrong batch of color mixing in
the molding process?

I agree that it was probably a wrong batch of color mixing, but I would still
call this a quality issue - just a different kind of quality issue than the "normal"
color variation.

Btw. here is one more discussion about that:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262307&nID=1174163

Looks like about one year ago TLG was aware of the issue and added replacement
parts to some sets.
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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You should try to contact LEGO to get these replacement parts!

In Colors, Turez writes:
  In Colors, gunga writes:
  Normally I would agree with you about being a quality issue. There have been
some instances where it's almost impossible to tell a 'faded' LBG
from a old light gray.

But you can tell the color difference in these parts from 10 feet away in bad
light. Add in the fact that it's two different molds in the same set, and
they have the exact same color shade... maybe a wrong batch of color mixing in
the molding process?

I agree that it was probably a wrong batch of color mixing, but I would still
call this a quality issue - just a different kind of quality issue than the "normal"
color variation.

Btw. here is one more discussion about that:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=262307&nID=1174163

Looks like about one year ago TLG was aware of the issue and added replacement
parts to some sets.
 Author: tan1mill View Messages Posted By tan1mill
 Posted: Apr 5, 2021 15:09
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In Colors, gunga writes:
  In a large box of loose LEGO, I came across several light gray pieces that I
can't identify the color of. They are from set 41154 and the only gray listed
in the inventory is LBG. The pieces in question are the 1x1 bricks as well as
the 1x2x5 bricks. For reference, the arch, 1x4, and 2x4 are light bluish gray.
The liftarm is very light bluish gray.

I know there is a variance in the light bluish gray, but this is a pretty dramatic
shade difference. And they ALL have the same shade, every 1x1 and 1x2x5. They
are LEGO pieces as I checked the studs and the logo is present.

Any ideas? Or have I overlooked something simple?

I've noticed this as well. There appears to be a shade between Light Bluish
Gray and the old Light Gray. It's clearly an "Off Color Gray" as I call
them, and know they are meant to be Light Bluish Gray because for some parts,
that's the only gray it was ever produced in. Sometimes I have a REALLY
hard time deciphering if a part is actually Light Gray or LBG. In that case,
I don't bother listing them for sale because they don't meet my personal
level of sale quality.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
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If you find any 2 x 4's in that shade of grey, let me know.




In Colors, gunga writes:
  In a large box of loose LEGO, I came across several light gray pieces that I
can't identify the color of. They are from set 41154 and the only gray listed
in the inventory is LBG. The pieces in question are the 1x1 bricks as well as
the 1x2x5 bricks. For reference, the arch, 1x4, and 2x4 are light bluish gray.
The liftarm is very light bluish gray.

I know there is a variance in the light bluish gray, but this is a pretty dramatic
shade difference. And they ALL have the same shade, every 1x1 and 1x2x5. They
are LEGO pieces as I checked the studs and the logo is present.

Any ideas? Or have I overlooked something simple?