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| | | Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 03:53 | | Subject: | Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 536 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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| | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:02 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Is there a list somewhere of items involved ?
Missed it if there is, this could be interesting.
In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:09 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Here it is:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
I got it in a newsletter today. Seems like that's something new. At least
it improves communication, so sellers who don't read the forum will not be
hit by the changes after they happen.
In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| | Is there a list somewhere of items involved ?
Missed it if there is, this could be interesting.
In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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| | | | | | | Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:09 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
| | Is there a list somewhere of items involved ?
Missed it if there is, this could be interesting.
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:08 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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Also, the list doesn't seem to mention which wedges go to which new wedge
category. Seems the list is incomplete or is it because it's fairly intuitive
(anything with sloping sides will be wedge, anything straight will be brick,
plates will be plates)?
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:11 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming. 
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:13 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
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Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:22 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
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We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern. 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:24 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
|
We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern.
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So I guess this email is a reminder of an announcement that was silent because
the users should have seen a pattern 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:29 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
|
We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern.
|
So I guess this email is a reminder of an announcement that was silent because
the users should have seen a pattern
|
The catalog newsletter is something new that the site is trying out. It does
not come from us, the catalog and inventories admins, but from the site administration.
These changes would have been on the schedule we admins set with or without the
newsletter.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
|
We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern.
|
So I guess this email is a reminder of an announcement that was silent because
the users should have seen a pattern
|
The catalog newsletter is something new that the site is trying out. It does
not come from us, the catalog and inventories admins, but from the site administration.
These changes would have been on the schedule we admins set with or without the
newsletter.
|
But there is no mention of April 1 at all in that message. It just says there
can be no more additions. From the way that is phrased I would think another
announcement with a date would come.. and it did, but 2 weeks before. Well, can't
change it now.
I notice something else:
For example, we'll be creating a Slope, Wedge
category, but won't be populating it yet.
Really? o_O
So, my entirely new layout is going to last.. until someone feels like populating
that category? Might as well keep my store closed until people stop deciding
to move things.. I have just started moving things around here and this is just
turning my store (which is my full time job and livelihood) into a mess.. Would
appreciate some indication when that category is going to be populated (or maybe
the definition is already ready so I an go ahead and move it?)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:02 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
|
We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern.
|
So I guess this email is a reminder of an announcement that was silent because
the users should have seen a pattern
|
The catalog newsletter is something new that the site is trying out. It does
not come from us, the catalog and inventories admins, but from the site administration.
These changes would have been on the schedule we admins set with or without the
newsletter.
|
But there is no mention of April 1 at all in that message. It just says there
can be no more additions. From the way that is phrased I would think another
announcement with a date would come.. and it did, but 2 weeks before. Well, can't
change it now.
I notice something else:
For example, we'll be creating a Slope, Wedge
category, but won't be populating it yet.
Really? o_O
So, my entirely new layout is going to last.. until someone feels like populating
that category? Might as well keep my store closed until people stop deciding
to move things.. I have just started moving things around here and this is just
turning my store (which is my full time job and livelihood) into a mess.. Would
appreciate some indication when that category is going to be populated (or maybe
the definition is already ready so I an go ahead and move it?)
|
The catalog is and always has been a fluid entity that can change on a dime.
In the past, people complained that they didn't know when things were changing
and had no input in the process, so the admin team went ahead and made a move
to start making large changes in batches on a regular schedule set by us and
asking for community feedback. These large changes are meant to occur a couple
of times a year instead of all of the time. The last one was six months ago,
and the next one will be six months after this one.
We asked for community input and you contributed to the conversations. We shared
the scheduled timeline for the changes and you contributed to the conversations.
Now you are complaining that our communicating in advance and giving the community
time to input into the process is not enough. That stings because those of us
in the catalog/inventories admin roles are really trying to do things the community
wants and desires and be open in the process.
In your case, I believe the only way that we can win is to not change a thing.
But that is not going to happen, and you are going to have to figure out how
to manage your store within the scope of the changes that are coming soon and
will be coming in the future. I truly am sorry for your troubles, but the site
cannot remain stagnant.
Like I said before, this brand new newsletter is something that did not come
from the catalog/inventories admin team. We didn't know it was coming, and
we didn't have any input to it. Now that the site has started something like
that, we will be discussing with them how we can use it to communicate widely
to the membership instead of just using the forums. This is something we have
asked for for a long time, and I am very happy and excited to see that it has
happened. I am optimistic about what it will allow us to accomplish, and I expect
things to be communicated even better moving forward. I hope you will remain
on the journey with us.
Best regards,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:34 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
This is *you*, right, back when it was first announced?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1240287
You can't honestly come here and say you had no idea it was coming.
|
Don't see the point.. I am saying the same thing there: It should take some
time. And I thought we had agreed on a month being the minimum timespan.
|
We did. The changes were finalized on the last day of February, after which this
was posted:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
Which you also responded to.
And that was after a month of discussions which started on February 1:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1249480
Which you also responded to.
See a pattern.
|
So I guess this email is a reminder of an announcement that was silent because
the users should have seen a pattern
|
The catalog newsletter is something new that the site is trying out. It does
not come from us, the catalog and inventories admins, but from the site administration.
These changes would have been on the schedule we admins set with or without the
newsletter.
|
But there is no mention of April 1 at all in that message. It just says there
can be no more additions. From the way that is phrased I would think another
announcement with a date would come.. and it did, but 2 weeks before. Well, can't
change it now.
I notice something else:
For example, we'll be creating a Slope, Wedge
category, but won't be populating it yet.
Really? o_O
So, my entirely new layout is going to last.. until someone feels like populating
that category? Might as well keep my store closed until people stop deciding
to move things.. I have just started moving things around here and this is just
turning my store (which is my full time job and livelihood) into a mess.. Would
appreciate some indication when that category is going to be populated (or maybe
the definition is already ready so I an go ahead and move it?)
|
The catalog is and always has been a fluid entity that can change on a dime.
In the past, people complained that they didn't know when things were changing
and had no input in the process, so the admin team went ahead and made a move
to start making large changes in batches on a regular schedule set by us and
asking for community feedback. These large changes are meant to occur a couple
of times a year instead of all of the time. The last one was six months ago,
and the next one will be six months after this one.
We asked for community input and you contributed to the conversations. We shared
the scheduled timeline for the changes and you contributed to the conversations.
Now you are complaining that our communicating in advance and giving the community
time to input into the process is not enough. That stings because those of us
in the catalog/inventories admin roles are really trying to do things the community
wants and desires and be open in the process.
In your case, I believe the only way that we can win is to not change a thing.
But that is not going to happen, and you are going to have to figure out how
to manage your store within the scope of the changes that are coming soon and
will be coming in the future. I truly am sorry for your troubles, but the site
cannot remain stagnant.
Like I said before, this brand new newsletter is something that did not come
from the catalog/inventories admin team. We didn't know it was coming, and
we didn't have any input to it. Now that the site has started something like
that, we will be discussing with them how we can use it to communicate widely
to the membership instead of just using the forums. This is something we have
asked for for a long time, and I am very happy and excited to see that it has
happened. I am optimistic about what it will allow us to accomplish, and I expect
things to be communicated even better moving forward. I hope you will remain
on the journey with us.
Best regards,
Randy
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Thanks for your explanation and for clearing up what the planned way forward
is for the catalog, that's definitely good to know!
I'm currently trying to figure out whether I can stay on that journey or
not. Not because I'm angry with you guys or anything, but I'm not sure
my workflow aligns with yours.
If there would be changes as dramatic as these every 6 months, I'd quit,
because for my store this is really complicated. But I'm not sure that's
going to be the case. I had hoped this time major changes would be over, and
we're going back to the "normal" situation of just moving some individual
parts here and there - based on fixed catagory definitions.
I know you can't look into the future, but what about you? Do you feel these
major updates (where catagories are redefined) are going to be a regular thing,
or is this a phase that's soon over? I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:48 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
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Well, that's absolutely the goal. This time around we created photographic
definitions for all the shape-based categories (brick, plate, tile, wedge, slope,
ring, ball, cone & dome, cylinder, etc.). Many of the movements will be done
for those parts, but some will remain undone (brick categories, slopes, and wedges).
Getting shape-based stuff sorted out was huge, so that's a lot of
progress. They're also probably the most impactful categories, so we're
getting them (mostly) out of the way first.
I know people want the large figure parts / Technic / Bionicle categories looked
at, so we'll have to get into those at some point. And theme-based categories
need to be looked at (Friends, in particular).
And another thing to keep in mind is that we want to have submenus for the Parts
category tree at some point. When that happens we'll probably create additional
categories to separate things further within the submenus (minifigure body parts,
for example, can be split up into multiple smaller categories once we can move
those into submenus).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - personal solution | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
|
Well, that's absolutely the goal. This time around we created photographic
definitions for all the shape-based categories (brick, plate, tile, wedge, slope,
ring, ball, cone & dome, cylinder, etc.). Many of the movements will be done
for those parts, but some will remain undone (brick categories, slopes, and wedges).
Getting shape-based stuff sorted out was huge, so that's a lot of
progress. They're also probably the most impactful categories, so we're
getting them (mostly) out of the way first.
I know people want the large figure parts / Technic / Bionicle categories looked
at, so we'll have to get into those at some point. And theme-based categories
need to be looked at (Friends, in particular).
And another thing to keep in mind is that we want to have submenus for the Parts
category tree at some point. When that happens we'll probably create additional
categories to separate things further within the submenus (minifigure body parts,
for example, can be split up into multiple smaller categories once we can move
those into submenus).
|
Thanks for the fast replies guys, now I understand a bit better what the attitude
to the catalog is. Seems category based sorting is not reliable now but there
might be some "light at the end of the tunnel" for my situation - I am going
to wait and see where where it goes, while my store is closed at the moment anyway.
Before I open up again at some point, I'll either align my entire store to
the new Bricklink categories (if they're "finished") or use a remark system
(if they're still fluid).
If I use remarks, I will write a tool. This tool will automatically assign custom
category names to all remark fields in the inventory, based on the part number.
It reads a text file that contains category/label names and a list of part numbers
that should belong to it. If anyone would be interested in such a tool, let me
know and I might start working on it a bit sooner 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - personal solution | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
|
Well, that's absolutely the goal. This time around we created photographic
definitions for all the shape-based categories (brick, plate, tile, wedge, slope,
ring, ball, cone & dome, cylinder, etc.). Many of the movements will be done
for those parts, but some will remain undone (brick categories, slopes, and wedges).
Getting shape-based stuff sorted out was huge, so that's a lot of
progress. They're also probably the most impactful categories, so we're
getting them (mostly) out of the way first.
I know people want the large figure parts / Technic / Bionicle categories looked
at, so we'll have to get into those at some point. And theme-based categories
need to be looked at (Friends, in particular).
And another thing to keep in mind is that we want to have submenus for the Parts
category tree at some point. When that happens we'll probably create additional
categories to separate things further within the submenus (minifigure body parts,
for example, can be split up into multiple smaller categories once we can move
those into submenus).
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Thanks for the fast replies guys, now I understand a bit better what the attitude
to the catalog is. Seems category based sorting is not reliable now but there
might be some "light at the end of the tunnel" for my situation - I am going
to wait and see where where it goes, while my store is closed at the moment anyway.
Before I open up again at some point, I'll either align my entire store to
the new Bricklink categories (if they're "finished") or use a remark system
(if they're still fluid).
If I use remarks, I will write a tool. This tool will automatically assign custom
category names to all remark fields in the inventory, based on the part number.
It reads a text file that contains category/label names and a list of part numbers
that should belong to it. If anyone would be interested in such a tool, let me
know and I might start working on it a bit sooner
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Whilst it can be helpful to use the remarks field for random parts where you
might choose to have them stored away and labelled in trays 001 to 500 or whichever
solution you choose don’t be afraid of using different filing methods for different
parts .
For instance where I always hold stock of a certain part I just store and file
them by design I.D
For instance I always hold stock of design I.D 3901 in various different colours
therefore I have a location for 3901 with all the available colours in the one
place that means I never need to update any remarks for those particular parts
However when picking I sometimes notice that the Bricklink catalog doesn’t always
put the most up-to-date design ID or at least the most common I.D in the main
prominent spot which would be handy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 07:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - personal solution | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
|
Well, that's absolutely the goal. This time around we created photographic
definitions for all the shape-based categories (brick, plate, tile, wedge, slope,
ring, ball, cone & dome, cylinder, etc.). Many of the movements will be done
for those parts, but some will remain undone (brick categories, slopes, and wedges).
Getting shape-based stuff sorted out was huge, so that's a lot of
progress. They're also probably the most impactful categories, so we're
getting them (mostly) out of the way first.
I know people want the large figure parts / Technic / Bionicle categories looked
at, so we'll have to get into those at some point. And theme-based categories
need to be looked at (Friends, in particular).
And another thing to keep in mind is that we want to have submenus for the Parts
category tree at some point. When that happens we'll probably create additional
categories to separate things further within the submenus (minifigure body parts,
for example, can be split up into multiple smaller categories once we can move
those into submenus).
|
Thanks for the fast replies guys, now I understand a bit better what the attitude
to the catalog is. Seems category based sorting is not reliable now but there
might be some "light at the end of the tunnel" for my situation - I am going
to wait and see where where it goes, while my store is closed at the moment anyway.
Before I open up again at some point, I'll either align my entire store to
the new Bricklink categories (if they're "finished") or use a remark system
(if they're still fluid).
If I use remarks, I will write a tool. This tool will automatically assign custom
category names to all remark fields in the inventory, based on the part number.
It reads a text file that contains category/label names and a list of part numbers
that should belong to it. If anyone would be interested in such a tool, let me
know and I might start working on it a bit sooner
|
Whilst it can be helpful to use the remarks field for random parts where you
might choose to have them stored away and labelled in trays 001 to 500 or whichever
solution you choose don’t be afraid of using different filing methods for different
parts .
For instance where I always hold stock of a certain part I just store and file
them by design I.D
For instance I always hold stock of design I.D 3901 in various different colours
therefore I have a location for 3901 with all the available colours in the one
place that means I never need to update any remarks for those particular parts
However when picking I sometimes notice that the Bricklink catalog doesn’t always
put the most up-to-date design ID or at least the most common I.D in the main
prominent spot which would be handy
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What you describe is exactly what my tool would do. It will assign whatever label
you have provided to all parts that have a design ID that is in the list. So
it will read a text file with entries like:
Label="my favourite bin"
IDs=3901,3902,3903
And all parts with that design ID will get that label in their remarks field
(prefixing with what's already in the remarks field but overwriting any previously
assigned label). Probably good add Condition as a separate parameter here as
nobody likes to find new and used parts in the same bin
I would let it generate a text file to report if there are any parts that did
not get a label. That would then happen when a part got a new design ID that
you weren't aware of. It will appear in the list of parts that were skipped
and you can easily identify it and add it in the label text file.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I know you can't look into the future, but what about you? Do you feel these
major updates (where catagories are redefined) are going to be a regular thing,
or is this a phase that's soon over? I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
|
Now that we have all of the definitions in place for part categories (even though
some are still being tweaked), I don't foresee many of these large changes
occurring in the future. In fact, I foresee 2-3 more rounds at the most, and
then we will be at a place where they are no longer necessary, as you said. At
that time, anything needing to be changed would probably be back to a few here
and there like before. I know it will be rough for a little while longer, but
I think you can do it.
P.S. I wish I lived near you. I would go and help you rearrange your store just
for fun.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I know you can't look into the future, but what about you? Do you feel these
major updates (where catagories are redefined) are going to be a regular thing,
or is this a phase that's soon over? I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...
|
Now that we have all of the definitions in place for part categories (even though
some are still being tweaked), I don't foresee many of these large changes
occurring in the future. In fact, I foresee 2-3 more rounds at the most, and
then we will be at a place where they are no longer necessary, as you said. At
that time, anything needing to be changed would probably be back to a few here
and there like before. I know it will be rough for a little while longer, but
I think you can do it.
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Thanks! Yeah, that's pretty much how I imagined it now. When I come back
to Bricklink selling (probably sometime next year), I'll see how the project
fares
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P.S. I wish I lived near you. I would go and help you rearrange your store just
for fun.
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Appreciate the thought Here's a picture of the mainly affected room and
a schematic of it. The lowest unit on the righthand side in the schematic contains
wedges. Those are large 2-column-wide drawers. Moving the wedges would imply
moving the units themselves, because nothing near it fits well in large drawers.
So that would mean taking breaking that entire wall of drawers apart, etc etc..
 And I am a perfectionist, I want all drawers that are used most often to be
at the most comfortable row. Soooo yeah.... I will skip this update and wait
it out, then sometime in the future plan some days to deisgn a new layout
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| | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:15 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:21 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
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I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:28 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
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| | | | It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
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I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
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Phew, thanks! Yes indeed we use remarks as locator tags, we allocate SKU locations
based on a number of factors including availability of space, likely order pick
frequency and separation of similar looking parts. To the untrained eye it looks
random and disorganised!
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:39 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 04:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:03 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
|
You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:39 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
|
You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
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I've never really understood how people do this. Doesn't it take a whole
lot of time entering, checking, managing all these remarks? I cannot imagine
a way where part-outs don't take several times as long as they do now. Right
now it takes me 1 hour to part out €300 worth of inventory.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:49 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
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I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
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Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
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That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
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You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
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I've never really understood how people do this. Doesn't it take a whole
lot of time entering, checking, managing all these remarks? I cannot imagine
a way where part-outs don't take several times as long as they do now. Right
now it takes me 1 hour to part out €300 worth of inventory.
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Never done it any differently. Our experience is that the time is taken to physically
sort and put away the inventory, not enter it. The remark is just a different
identifier than description really. There are in my opinion huge time benefits
at the order picking point which is where you want the fastest solution as it
drives customer service. If an order says location 123, you go there and that
part (and no other similar part) is there it makes order picking easy and accurate
with minimised picking errors. Works for us and our customers.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:59 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
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I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
|
You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
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I've never really understood how people do this. Doesn't it take a whole
lot of time entering, checking, managing all these remarks? I cannot imagine
a way where part-outs don't take several times as long as they do now. Right
now it takes me 1 hour to part out €300 worth of inventory.
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Never done it any differently. Our experience is that the time is taken to physically
sort and put away the inventory, not enter it. The remark is just a different
identifier than description really. There are in my opinion huge time benefits
at the order picking point which is where you want the fastest solution as it
drives customer service. If an order says location 123, you go there and that
part (and no other similar part) is there it makes order picking easy and accurate
with minimised picking errors. Works for us and our customers.
Robert
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I guess the main thing I never really understood is... what do you do first?
Do you first put things in places, then go and enter them in the remark fields
(but then how do you know what items should have consolidated)
Or do you first write down which bins you're going to put everything in and
then put it there (but then how do you know which ones are free and that it will
fit)
And then some lots may already have a location but it became too small and it
needs to be changed... and the part-out screen only shows that you already have
an item in your inventory, it doesn't show directly what the remark is...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:24 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
|
You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
|
I've never really understood how people do this. Doesn't it take a whole
lot of time entering, checking, managing all these remarks? I cannot imagine
a way where part-outs don't take several times as long as they do now. Right
now it takes me 1 hour to part out €300 worth of inventory.
|
Never done it any differently. Our experience is that the time is taken to physically
sort and put away the inventory, not enter it. The remark is just a different
identifier than description really. There are in my opinion huge time benefits
at the order picking point which is where you want the fastest solution as it
drives customer service. If an order says location 123, you go there and that
part (and no other similar part) is there it makes order picking easy and accurate
with minimised picking errors. Works for us and our customers.
Robert
|
I guess the main thing I never really understood is... what do you do first?
Do you first put things in places, then go and enter them in the remark fields
(but then how do you know what items should have consolidated)
Or do you first write down which bins you're going to put everything in and
then put it there (but then how do you know which ones are free and that it will
fit)
And then some lots may already have a location but it became too small and it
needs to be changed... and the part-out screen only shows that you already have
an item in your inventory, it doesn't show directly what the remark is...
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I'm sure there are as many detail variations of those processes as there
are stores.
We don't upload inventory via part-outs as that never fitted with our inventory
management, tried it once and it was a disaster. New inventory is added separately
from additions to existing SKUs and is a completely different work flow.
One thing we don't do is use any 3rd party software or file uploads as there
is insufficient audit trail and we believe this is where inventory errors get
generated (not wanting this thread to turn into another one on inventory management
tools!). Overall this probably loses us some time/efficiency but we rather sacrifice
that to avoid errors impacting customer orders - I would agree this is an area
of compromise for us due to the limitations of the Bricklink system but we live
with it.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:43 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Am I missing something here? Why does a catalog update mean I should be worried
about making physical changes to my store set up?
It does concern me though that the updates might cause some other unexpected
system problems, I hope there will be tech staff monitoring this when it goes
live.. April 1st doesn't sound too reassuring.
Robert
|
I guess you're a remarks sorter then? In that case no, your layout doesn't
change.
|
Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
Robert
|
That's a good point, that was my main objection for making dramatic changes
in the first place. Also from a buyer / AFOL perspective I would prefer if we
don't get a tower-of-babel situation. In the past running BL and BO alongside
each other was easy, with just minor differences (BO grouping some catagories
under Scenery being the main difference). For most orders, the picking list appeared
the same. Now they are drifting apart and if I would start platform selling again
I guess I would need to choose which one to go with.
I am running my own webshop and so I am just keeping my catalog aligned in order
to be able to keep selling on Bricklink. Right now I'm debating whether that
is something worth doing. I don't mind planning a day off to adjust, but
there will be a third edition of this moving around and nobody knows how many
more will come after that...
|
You could instead just start allocating remarks to each item independently of
the physical location assuming the system your webshop uses could handle that
too. Then you would have flexibility to either make physical changes or not and
still keep open.
Robert
|
I've never really understood how people do this. Doesn't it take a whole
lot of time entering, checking, managing all these remarks? I cannot imagine
a way where part-outs don't take several times as long as they do now. Right
now it takes me 1 hour to part out €300 worth of inventory.
|
Never done it any differently. Our experience is that the time is taken to physically
sort and put away the inventory, not enter it. The remark is just a different
identifier than description really. There are in my opinion huge time benefits
at the order picking point which is where you want the fastest solution as it
drives customer service. If an order says location 123, you go there and that
part (and no other similar part) is there it makes order picking easy and accurate
with minimised picking errors. Works for us and our customers.
Robert
|
I guess the main thing I never really understood is... what do you do first?
Do you first put things in places, then go and enter them in the remark fields
(but then how do you know what items should have consolidated)
Or do you first write down which bins you're going to put everything in and
then put it there (but then how do you know which ones are free and that it will
fit)
And then some lots may already have a location but it became too small and it
needs to be changed... and the part-out screen only shows that you already have
an item in your inventory, it doesn't show directly what the remark is...
|
I'm sure there are as many detail variations of those processes as there
are stores.
We don't upload inventory via part-outs as that never fitted with our inventory
management, tried it once and it was a disaster. New inventory is added separately
from additions to existing SKUs and is a completely different work flow.
One thing we don't do is use any 3rd party software or file uploads as there
is insufficient audit trail and we believe this is where inventory errors get
generated (not wanting this thread to turn into another one on inventory management
tools!). Overall this probably loses us some time/efficiency but we rather sacrifice
that to avoid errors impacting customer orders - I would agree this is an area
of compromise for us due to the limitations of the Bricklink system but we live
with it.
Robert
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Aah I see, yes, then I can understand how you add inventory. I am 100% part-out
based so then it's more tricky. I feel the same way about third party software.
I believe the new BrickStore is going to be great, but even then I would feel
worried it might break or it might not do juuust exactly what I need, so I prefer
to make my owns tools (in other words, I'm just a control freak ).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RecycledBrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:16 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Aah, that makes some sense, thanks for sharing. And really interesting to read
that in a way, you kind of ended up with a hybrid remarks-category system.
I can see at least one tedious loose end - if the part no longer fits in that
location and the remarks need to be changed.. That's another thing that seems
annoying to me: The lots are stored individually (not all colours and several
variations of the category in the same drawer), therefore, the bins/drawers are
tiny. So they need to be moved around if they grow and shrink, so the remarks
sometimes need to change.. That's what I like about category based sorting,
I can just throw everything in the bins and part out the set and not worry about
any administration besides the prices.
In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
| | | | I guess the main thing I never really understood is... what do you do first?
Do you first put things in places, then go and enter them in the remark fields
(but then how do you know what items should have consolidated)
Or do you first write down which bins you're going to put everything in and
then put it there (but then how do you know which ones are free and that it will
fit)
And then some lots may already have a location but it became too small and it
needs to be changed... and the part-out screen only shows that you already have
an item in your inventory, it doesn't show directly what the remark is...
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When I part out a set I go through the process. I don't enter any locations
at this time and let the existing items consolidate. The last screen before
the pieces are finally added I save as a PDF as pictured. It shows where the
locations are for the consolidated lots. I save it because I don't want
to put all the pieces away right at this moment or have to look them up later.
Everything that is a new lot which doesn't have a location goes to Stockroom
A. That way I can easily go and add locations to the new lots. I use no 3rd
party software.
I used to do random locating of pieces using just locations in the remarks.
it would take awhile to find a piece if something went wrong. I have put more
pieces into groups. At least I can find it quicker if the location is wrong
or missing. I have arranged things in BL categories but not in any order. With
the moving of items I am not going to move everything around right away and in
most cases don't need to. A lot of the Tile Modified category I have alway
kept with Plate Modified so I don't always follow the BL catalog.
I have been told privately my way of parting out is stupid. It allows me to
quickly part out a set whether 1 or a 100 very fast and then I can put those
pieces away at my leisure. I don't want to enter the new locations and put
all the pieces away during the part out process. What works for me may not work
for others
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | RecycledBrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 14:13 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 14:28 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
| | To mitigate some of the moving around. The tackle boxes each are a location.
The individual dividers inside aren't so if a piece or color gets too
big I can take out a divider or move it to a large space within and don't
have to change anything. Only when I have to move it to the pull outs with the
colorful Ikea boxes then I have to change the location. I don't really have
to move things around that much. In the tackle boxes, where I have more pieces
like minifigure accessories, each compartment is given a location and usually
I don't get too many at once where they have to be moved.
I am fascinated with everyone having a different way to do the same ultimate
goal.
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I basically have the same system but I use bags.
I also name my "boxes" usually after sets instead of letters and numbers just
so I don't find picking as boring.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | LegoLDK | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
| | To mitigate some of the moving around. The tackle boxes each are a location.
The individual dividers inside aren't so if a piece or color gets too
big I can take out a divider or move it to a large space within and don't
have to change anything. Only when I have to move it to the pull outs with the
colorful Ikea boxes then I have to change the location. I don't really have
to move things around that much. In the tackle boxes, where I have more pieces
like minifigure accessories, each compartment is given a location and usually
I don't get too many at once where they have to be moved.
I am fascinated with everyone having a different way to do the same ultimate
goal.
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That just looks pleasing. Why hasn't anyone opened a Lego Library???
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| In Catalog, LegoLDK writes:
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That just looks pleasing. Why hasn't anyone opened a Lego Library???
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Because the books come in many shapes but the only words are “LEGO,” “Pat. Pend.,”
“©” and a few numbers?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:14 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
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Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:23 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
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This is a good point.
The end result of these changes will be a more sensible and less-changing catalog.
We've implemented written category descriptions in 2020 where none existed
previously. The result of no written category definitions was confusion and
debate.
Plates vs. tiles was a particularly long-running source of debate, which the
April 1st changes (based on clear definitions) settles.
But basing a sorting system on BrickLink only works if the catalog remains forever
the same. An unchanging catalog is fine if it's perfect, but 20 years of
undefined categories did not leave us with a catalog of perfection. Rather,
we have work to do.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
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Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
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I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:41 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
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Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | misbi | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:00 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
Not aware of any field related bugs either, whether manually entered or programmatically
via API.
Only real downside to remarks based filing is that if it's not where it's
meant to be, it's a goner until you stumble across somewhere it isn't
meant to be at some unknown point in the future 😂
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, misbi writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
Not aware of any field related bugs either, whether manually entered or programmatically
via API.
Only real downside to remarks based filing is that if it's not where it's
meant to be, it's a goner until you stumble across somewhere it isn't
meant to be at some unknown point in the future 😂
|
Yeah, we've had one or two mega searches for typo'd remarks!! Currently
we try to use a range of locations when adding new items on any given date then
if something is not where it says it should be we can refer to the locations
used on the date listed.. Nothing is human error exempt but over the years you
learn from experience I guess.
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, misbi writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
Not aware of any field related bugs either, whether manually entered or programmatically
via API.
|
I gotta say, I've always been just a little amazed by how trouble-free the
remarks feature for inventory location has been for us over the years. Don't
know why it just always seemed a tenuous method, when in fact it's been nothing
but reliable...
| | Only real downside to remarks based filing is that if it's not where it's
meant to be, it's a goner until you stumble across somewhere it isn't
meant to be at some unknown point in the future 😂
|
Same sentiment.
But the few times it's happened over the years, have proved to be errors
on our part. Nonetheless, knowing this does nothing to mitigate the angst you
feel in trying to fulfill an order when it does happen
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part..  the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 19:00 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2021 03:13 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | sandman | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2021 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
Thanks to your detailed analysis in https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore/issues/80
this problem has already been fixed in BrickStore at the end of January. I had
to trade precision (only 2 decimals) for VAT correctness, but without support
from BrickLink, this is the best I can do right now. The link to the bug report
tells the whole story.
If you're still using the old BrickStock, you are of course using the broken
price guide data.
cu
Robert
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2021 01:33 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2021 05:44 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
|
It is not that easy
I could explain why, but the thing is that I think the new BrickStore does it
pretty well, Bricklink says 3.99, BrickStore 2021 says 3.988 and Brickstock says
3.93 for a part I checked.
| |
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
|
The original author of BrickStore returned and updated the software, you can
check it here: https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore
| |
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2021 22:33 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
|
It is not that easy
I could explain why, but the thing is that I think the new BrickStore does it
pretty well, Bricklink says 3.99, BrickStore 2021 says 3.988 and Brickstock says
3.93 for a part I checked.
| |
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
|
The original author of BrickStore returned and updated the software, you can
check it here: https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore
| |
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
|
Downloading and checking it out now. I haven't been giddy about a new piece
of software in decades! (Love my job!)
Thank you very much for the follow up on this Stellar, I do appreciate it!
- Big B
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 19, 2021 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
Well, the problem with BrickStock and VAT is that it's a variable discrepancy,
so you can't really correct it. For example, if some part is only being sold
by VAT registered stores, then the average will be some 20% lower. But, if it's
only non-VAT registered stores selling it, the number is accurate - well, sort
of... I don't entirely understand it either but sometimes it's just a
bit off.
We're talking about like 5% here really, for many users it's just not
a big deal. The reason that it matters to me is not so much about the money,
but about how long it takes to sell things. I like to have some control there
and I noticed my price level have a huge influence on that.
Relying on BrickStock is OK I think, we've seen the catalog is an uncertain
factor too and life is uncertain in general Just a personal defensive attitude
that I prefer to work with just Bricklink and what I can make. Plus, I just really
like it when the identity of a part directly tells you where it is, so no additional
layer of administration there, even if it's easy to maintain. Thanks for
offering your thoughts, I think I should be okay - either the catalog has settled
down by the time I have more time for selling here, or I should be able to make
some tool that generates remark fields with my own categories, based on the part
number. That way things keep having a fixed place and I don't have to worry
about location management
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BigBBricks | | Posted: | Mar 20, 2021 22:31 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
Well, the problem with BrickStock and VAT is that it's a variable discrepancy,
so you can't really correct it. For example, if some part is only being sold
by VAT registered stores, then the average will be some 20% lower. But, if it's
only non-VAT registered stores selling it, the number is accurate - well, sort
of... I don't entirely understand it either but sometimes it's just a
bit off.
We're talking about like 5% here really, for many users it's just not
a big deal. The reason that it matters to me is not so much about the money,
but about how long it takes to sell things. I like to have some control there
and I noticed my price level have a huge influence on that.
Relying on BrickStock is OK I think, we've seen the catalog is an uncertain
factor too and life is uncertain in general Just a personal defensive attitude
that I prefer to work with just Bricklink and what I can make. Plus, I just really
like it when the identity of a part directly tells you where it is, so no additional
layer of administration there, even if it's easy to maintain. Thanks for
offering your thoughts, I think I should be okay - either the catalog has settled
down by the time I have more time for selling here, or I should be able to make
some tool that generates remark fields with my own categories, based on the part
number. That way things keep having a fixed place and I don't have to worry
about location management
|
I do wish you luck with your style of organizing vs the catalog. The new minifig
head mold alone would make me change but everyone's style is their own I
do give you credit for using by part number. If you ever do switch and have questions,
ping me. I'd be happy to help.
- Big B
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 21, 2021 04:46 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, BigBBricks writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.
Robert
|
There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.
Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)
|
The remark being voided during upload is most likely an issue with the default
settings you have for uploads. I've been using this for years in conjunction
with BrickStock and bricksync and have never had a real issue.
bricksync allows for nightly automated backups so I don't lose the remarks
and anything else and the price differences within BrickStock are minimal and
mostly based upon the settings the user controls.
If you are going to put yourself through rearranging your store bi-yearly, I'd
reconsider your options. I'd hate for a fellow seller to have to continually
put themselves through that when better solutions are available.
- Big B
|
No, really, it was a bug. To be precise, it happened when you would select "concatenate
old and new remarks". Those remarks didn't get concatenated but just deleted.
Not just for me, for everyone. It was confirmed by Bricklink and fixed, then
it popped up again, then it was fozed again.
Well, you rely on third party software.. IMO it's more risky than relying
on what is part of Bricklink itself in terms of whose interest it is to keep
it working. (Luckily for you ryough, it seems the new Brickstore is going to
enjoy some decent community maintenance) By the way, you are in the US, so yes,
then the Vat problem than BrickStock has doesn't affect you and the prices
should be fairly accurate.
|
I always forget about the VAT issues you guys have with BrickStock. That would
make a considerable difference but wouldn't making the adjustment for VAT
after querying the US based prices fix that? Just trying to understand better
so I can be of some assistance.
What is this new Brick Store 2021 that I keep reading about? I licensed BrickStock,
which came after the original BrickStore was retired.
It's true I do rely upon a 3rd party tool or two but I get the feeling from
the way these applications are developed that they creators have a better understanding
of what a seller needs and uses. I have reference files for it to pull prices
or locations from and I control my data and don't have to rely that a database
that I have no control over will always be available. Since I seem to experience
the BrickLink blackout daily, I try to work around the deficiency.
|
Well, the problem with BrickStock and VAT is that it's a variable discrepancy,
so you can't really correct it. For example, if some part is only being sold
by VAT registered stores, then the average will be some 20% lower. But, if it's
only non-VAT registered stores selling it, the number is accurate - well, sort
of... I don't entirely understand it either but sometimes it's just a
bit off.
We're talking about like 5% here really, for many users it's just not
a big deal. The reason that it matters to me is not so much about the money,
but about how long it takes to sell things. I like to have some control there
and I noticed my price level have a huge influence on that.
Relying on BrickStock is OK I think, we've seen the catalog is an uncertain
factor too and life is uncertain in general Just a personal defensive attitude
that I prefer to work with just Bricklink and what I can make. Plus, I just really
like it when the identity of a part directly tells you where it is, so no additional
layer of administration there, even if it's easy to maintain. Thanks for
offering your thoughts, I think I should be okay - either the catalog has settled
down by the time I have more time for selling here, or I should be able to make
some tool that generates remark fields with my own categories, based on the part
number. That way things keep having a fixed place and I don't have to worry
about location management
|
I do wish you luck with your style of organizing vs the catalog. The new minifig
head mold alone would make me change but everyone's style is their own I
do give you credit for using by part number.
|
Aaaaactually here you stumbled upon something that's nice about catalog based
sorting. There will be a main bag with a bag for each type inside (one bag for
1x1 plates with thick U-clips, one for thin, one for O-clips, ...). So whenever
the inventory is off, because of some set inventory mistake or a mistake during
part-out, and a buyer buys 10 of that part, you open the drawer and notice immediately
"hey, instead of 10, I have 2 of the one type and 8 of the other". So you can
A: adjust your inventory immediately and B: Give the buyer the other type free
of charge, or ask them if it matters.
| | If you ever do switch and have questions,
ping me. I'd be happy to help.
- Big B
|
Thanks!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:59 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
With the new BrickStore 2021 you can populate the remarks of all items in a category
with 2 clicks. And then export it as mass-update to Bricklink. There is no need
to use BS prices, you can partout on BL or with BO, then just mass-update.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:06 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
With the new BrickStore 2021 you can populate the remarks of all items in a category
with 2 clicks. And then export it as mass-update to Bricklink. There is no need
to use BS prices, you can partout on BL or with BO, then just mass-update.
|
Interesting! BrickStore will be awesome, I'm sure of it. Bricklink is so
lucky the community is doing this. It'd be hard to run a store without external
tools. Maybe this could help me populating remarks with my own categories. Or
maybe I'll make a tool for this at some point (I'm a control freak after
all)
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
With the new BrickStore 2021 you can populate the remarks of all items in a category
with 2 clicks. And then export it as mass-update to Bricklink. There is no need
to use BS prices, you can partout on BL or with BO, then just mass-update.
|
Interesting! BrickStore will be awesome, I'm sure of it. Bricklink is so
lucky the community is doing this. It'd be hard to run a store without external
tools. Maybe this could help me populating remarks with my own categories. Or
maybe I'll make a tool for this at some point (I'm a control freak after
all)
|
Then be sure to download the catalog now, so you have a snapshot of the parts
ID and its categories before the change:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogDownload.asp
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 06:49 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.
|
I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.
|
With the new BrickStore 2021 you can populate the remarks of all items in a category
with 2 clicks. And then export it as mass-update to Bricklink. There is no need
to use BS prices, you can partout on BL or with BO, then just mass-update.
|
Interesting! BrickStore will be awesome, I'm sure of it. Bricklink is so
lucky the community is doing this. It'd be hard to run a store without external
tools. Maybe this could help me populating remarks with my own categories. Or
maybe I'll make a tool for this at some point (I'm a control freak after
all)
|
Then be sure to download the catalog now, so you have a snapshot of the parts
ID and its categories before the change:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogDownload.asp
|
Good advice, thanks! I wasn't aware of that feature. I think I'm good
but I downloaded it for reference in case I find myself in some unexpected situation
(and that happens a lot with a large store and software development for it )
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:30 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.
|
We use our own software to pick-and-pack - it sorts the other platform's
items according to the BL catalog. Easy-peasy.
Niek.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:08 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
Maybe I should have stated that more plainly. You have repeatedly been one of
the drivers of category changes for parts. At least two of the changes you personally
suggested were implemented in the catalog and required moving hundreds of parts
between categories.
To hear you complain about part category changes now is . . . somewhat perplexing.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:15 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
It doesn't make a lot of sense to convince me the situation is not the way
I describe, because really, this is the way it is. I need to move over a hundred
thousand parts.
I have asked you several times, please, make sure this time we're done. But
again, things are getting postponed. I am not asking anyone to do any work on
the catalog and certainly not for free. I had just hoped that a release of a
major update would be done once it is ready.
I really don't mind taking a day off here and moving things around and redesigning
my store. Sure, that will take time. I would prefer to pay up €200, because that
takes about the same amount of time to earn. But I am not small-minded: I understand
catalog improvement should come at no compromise.
I just expected 2 things:
- there would a month minimum headsup of the movement date (thought that was
agreed)
- we would be good for at least a year. The reason I tried to contribute as much
as possible was precisely for that reason. But creating a catagory and not populating
it sounds like more changes are coming soon, rendering most of the puzzling (physically
and IT-wise) I am up for now useless.
Sure the catalog needs maintenance, and it is not a static thing. But I have
been able to run my shop in peace for 15 years and now I'm really not sure
anymore keeping a store here is going to be worth the hassle. And I'm really
trying here..
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:36 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I have asked you several times, please, make sure this time we're done.
|
You have, yes. And I'm sorry that we couldn't fix everything in one
attempt. I agree it would've been the best approach.
Unfortunately, it also (potentially) would've involved too many changes at
one time. We have to balance many considerations and this approach seemed to
work the best considering all factors.
| | I just expected 2 things:
- there would a month minimum headsup of the movement date (thought that was
agreed)
|
Right, and that was the month of March as announced here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
| | - we would be good for at least a year.
|
I don't recall ever promising that. Even moving at six-month intervals I
don't know how long it will take to sort things out with over 65,000 parts
in the catalog. But it will probably be ongoing for a while.
| | I have been able to run my shop in peace for 15 years and now I'm really not sure
anymore keeping a store here is going to be worth the hassle.
|
I don't want to be insensitive to your needs, but have you considered what
others are suggesting: don't base your storage system entirely off the BrickLink
catalog? It genuinely isn't the best approach.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:53 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
|
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | I have asked you several times, please, make sure this time we're done.
|
You have, yes. And I'm sorry that we couldn't fix everything in one
attempt. I agree it would've been the best approach.
Unfortunately, it also (potentially) would've involved too many changes at
one time. We have to balance many considerations and this approach seemed to
work the best considering all factors.
| | I just expected 2 things:
- there would a month minimum headsup of the movement date (thought that was
agreed)
|
Right, and that was the month of March as announced here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1256122
| | - we would be good for at least a year.
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I don't recall ever promising that. Even moving at six-month intervals I
don't know how long it will take to sort things out with over 65,000 parts
in the catalog. But it will probably be ongoing for a while.
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True, that wasn't promised, that was just my hope. I thought we were in a
situation where some long overdue work needed to be done, and some of it spilled
over to a next update.. and now a next-next, and that would be pretty much it.
Then we would be back to the usual sitation with the small stuff, like every
now and then move a palmtree top between plant and bar and an icecream cone between
food and cone - totally fine situations that don't need any warnings. But
now it starts to feel a bit like a perpetual re-evaluation of core categories.
| | | | I have been able to run my shop in peace for 15 years and now I'm really not sure
anymore keeping a store here is going to be worth the hassle.
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I don't want to be insensitive to your needs, but have you considered what
others are suggesting: don't base your storage system entirely off the BrickLink
catalog? It genuinely isn't the best approach.
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That's a fair suggestion, but catalog based sorting comes with a long list
of benefits. It might surprise you how that's really in everything. Just
small things. For example, it's even more enviromentally friendly for me.
Because I can use less bags and number them (like Lego does), and tell buyers
with big orders to sort their page by category and they can verify the contents
easily. Because I pack everything in alphabetical order. Or when someone picks
up an order and tells me they forgot a part, I can grab it immediately without
looking into any systems. I can glance immediately what type of parts tend to
go out of stock. These are small things, the main thing being the fact it's
just super fast to work this way because no remark administration is needed.
Right now I'm thinking about making some software that can populate remarks
fields with my own categories, so I can maintain most of these benefits. Sounds
easier than it is, but the Bricklink catalog is going to be really fluid, that'll
probably be the best way to do it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | I don't want to be insensitive to your needs, but have you considered what
others are suggesting: don't base your storage system entirely off the BrickLink
catalog? It genuinely isn't the best approach.
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I'm curious what way you think is the best approach and how you arrived at
that conclusion. What is the largest inventory that you have ever personally
managed? I have read how others manage their inventory and I still find category-based
to be the most efficient--it is certainly the most intuitive to me.
My point, of course, is that you might want to be careful about telling sellers
what is or isn't genuinely best for them, as if there were a single, indisputable
best way. That will make some folks bristle. If some sellers want to sort by
category why should they face an impediment? Why take time refining category
designations at all if you don't think we should utilize them? It seems
that the driving force behind these changes is to make the catalog easier to
navigate for buyers (and I can get on board with that), but then you tell sellers
not to rely on the catalog to organize their stores? That leaves me scratching
my head.
It doesn't seem unreasonable to me to want these category changes to be implemented
and finalized in one go rather than trickling out over the next few years. You
mention there are some problems with this, I'm not sure what those could
be, but maybe it's worth the time to revisit them and see if, perhaps, they
could be overcome?
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| | | | | Author: | tpr | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:47 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - Question | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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Hi
In the catalogue of each item - when changed, will there be a log/change note
to say where it was moved from?
At least then i can move stock as and when i need to, or find it without having
to move it !!!
Hope this makes sense
Thanks
Tpr
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - Question | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tpr writes:
| | In the catalogue of each item - when changed, will there be a log/change note
to say where it was moved from?
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We have this:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
We may also temporarily put remarks in the titles of items - not sure about that.
I know someone else asked for it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | tpr | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:52 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - Question | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, tpr writes:
| | In the catalogue of each item - when changed, will there be a log/change note
to say where it was moved from?
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We have this:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
We may also temporarily put remarks in the titles of items - not sure about that.
I know someone else asked for it.
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That helps not a lot of use when picking an order.
You have change logs in the catalogue now, won't this change be part of that.
tpr
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 05:51 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! - Question | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tpr writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Hi
In the catalogue of each item - when changed, will there be a log/change note
to say where it was moved from?
At least then i can move stock as and when i need to, or find it without having
to move it !!!
Hope this makes sense
Thanks
Tpr
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Good idea. At least then if you can't find something, you can look up where
it was last located.
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| | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 07:16 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Let's get something right here, making your physical store inventory storage
… mirror the logical catalog arrangement … is completely nuts. I realized that
20 years ago, realized that I needed a local reference for where I was storing
things, exchanged a few messages with Dan, and he implemented the Remarks field.
My physical storage has no relationship to the logical organization of the Catalog
… none.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 07:23 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
Let's get something right here, making your physical store inventory storage
… mirror the logical catalog arrangement … is completely nuts. I realized that
20 years ago, realized that I needed a local reference for where I was storing
things, exchanged a few messages with Dan, and he implemented the Remarks field.
My physical storage has no relationship to the logical organization of the Catalog
… none.
Nita Rae
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"Nuts" is strong language It is entirely up for debate whether remark based
sorting or category based sorting is better. I strongly believe category based
sorting is superiour and it has a long list of benefits.
But to keep it simple: I would not even know how to do part-outs. I would need
to enter all sorts of bin numbers and it would take forever. Also I cannot see
on that page what the remarks of my existing lots are. Those only appear on the
verification page.. this is a whole lot of hassle that I'm glad to avoid.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| |
Let's get something right here, making your physical store inventory storage
… mirror the logical catalog arrangement … is completely nuts. I realized that
20 years ago, realized that I needed a local reference for where I was storing
things, exchanged a few messages with Dan, and he implemented the Remarks field.
My physical storage has no relationship to the logical organization of the Catalog
… none.
Nita Rae
|
"Nuts" is strong language It is entirely up for debate whether remark based
sorting or category based sorting is better. I strongly believe category based
sorting is superiour and it has a long list of benefits.
But to keep it simple: I would not even know how to do part-outs. I would need
to enter all sorts of bin numbers and it would take forever. Also I cannot see
on that page what the remarks of my existing lots are. Those only appear on the
verification page.. this is a whole lot of hassle that I'm glad to avoid.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:45 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:51 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
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+1 That's exactly how I think.
Plus, I am yet to figure out how even to use the remark field when parting out.
The usual answer is "BrickStock", but without it, just parting out on Bricklink?
No idea.
It's relying on a global marketplace's catalog versus relying on a tool
a guy once made.
Right now, you could make a point that remark sorters were betting on the right
horse, but that's purely by chance. It just so happens to be case that there's
a brand new BrickStore coming up on the one hand, and the catalog is giving some
troubles on the other hand. It could just as well have been the other way around.
Well, everybody has their own habits and preferences. I just like the idea that
when armageddon comes and the internet goes offline, I can still find my Lego
parts
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:01 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Plus, I am yet to figure out how even to use the remark field when parting out.
The usual answer is "BrickStock", but without it, just parting out on Bricklink?
No idea.
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I find it quite easy. When I part out a set, I just add locations in the remarks
box for each item on the part out page. If I get the red warning about having
the part already, I can either create a new lot or open that page in a new tab
and update the qty.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
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+1 That's exactly how I think.
Plus, I am yet to figure out how even to use the remark field when parting out.
The usual answer is "BrickStock", but without it, just parting out on Bricklink?
No idea.
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You partout on bricklink and consolidate lots selecting "old Remarks", then verify
saving the parts with remarks where they go and submit. After that go to your
inventory and sort by remarks, then you see all the empty remarks items first
that you can populate as you want, copy the category tree of the part or putting
your location.
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It's relying on a global marketplace's catalog versus relying on a tool
a guy once made.
Right now, you could make a point that remark sorters were betting on the right
horse, but that's purely by chance. It just so happens to be case that there's
a brand new BrickStore coming up on the one hand, and the catalog is giving some
troubles on the other hand. It could just as well have been the other way around.
Well, everybody has their own habits and preferences. I just like the idea that
when armageddon comes and the internet goes offline, I can still find my Lego
parts
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
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| | | | Well, everybody has their own habits and preferences. I just like the idea that
when armageddon comes and the internet goes offline, I can still find my Lego
parts
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Yes, I like this too. Lots of internet outages around here. Never stop working!
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
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+1 That's exactly how I think.
Plus, I am yet to figure out how even to use the remark field when parting out.
The usual answer is "BrickStock", but without it, just parting out on Bricklink?
No idea.
It's relying on a global marketplace's catalog versus relying on a tool
a guy once made.
Right now, you could make a point that remark sorters were betting on the right
horse, but that's purely by chance. It just so happens to be case that there's
a brand new BrickStore coming up on the one hand, and the catalog is giving some
troubles on the other hand. It could just as well have been the other way around.
Well, everybody has their own habits and preferences. I just like the idea that
when armageddon comes and the internet goes offline, I can still find my Lego
parts
|
Your physical inventory is just that … physical inventory. You devise your own
organizational scheme, and how you label the various drawers/bags/containers,
and put your private storage reference into the Remarks field. When an order
arrives, there are your location references beneath each item ordered. You are
using the remarks field to carry your own private inventory scheme. It's
really simple.
But people seem to be so wedded to the BL Catalog, they can't find the cognative
skills to think outside the box. Just do it.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | Physical inventory is just that … physical inventory. You devise your own
organizational scheme, and how you label the various drawers/bags/containers,
and put your private storage reference into the Remarks field. When an order
arrives, there are your location references beneath each item ordered. You are
using the remarks field to carry your own private inventory scheme. It's
really simple.
But people seem to be so wedded to the BL Catalog, they can't find the cognative
skills to think outside the box. Just do it.
Nita Rae
|
Thinking that the way you've always done things is the best way is literally
the opposite of "outside the box" thinking.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | But people seem to be so wedded to the BL Catalog, they can't find the cognative
skills to think outside the box. Just do it.
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"Nuts" ... "can't find the cognitive skills" - if you can't find the
decency to discuss things without denigrating others, then don't post.
Niek.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
|
+1 That's exactly how I think.
Plus, I am yet to figure out how even to use the remark field when parting out.
The usual answer is "BrickStock", but without it, just parting out on Bricklink?
No idea.
It's relying on a global marketplace's catalog versus relying on a tool
a guy once made.
Right now, you could make a point that remark sorters were betting on the right
horse, but that's purely by chance. It just so happens to be case that there's
a brand new BrickStore coming up on the one hand, and the catalog is giving some
troubles on the other hand. It could just as well have been the other way around.
Well, everybody has their own habits and preferences. I just like the idea that
when armageddon comes and the internet goes offline, I can still find my Lego
parts
|
Your physical inventory is just that … physical inventory. You devise your own
organizational scheme, and how you label the various drawers/bags/containers,
and put your private storage reference into the Remarks field. When an order
arrives, there are your location references beneath each item ordered. You are
using the remarks field to carry your own private inventory scheme. It's
really simple.
But people seem to be so wedded to the BL Catalog, they can't find the cognative
skills to think outside the box. Just do it.
Nita Rae
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Nita, let me just brag a little bit here I have developed all my own software
environment and created my own webshop with many complicated automated systems
spread over 8 different applications to manage different aspects of catalog maintenance
and expanding. I have over 1 million parts and I am doing this for a living for
10 years now. Trust me.... I have the skills At some point I even made statistic
software to make a visual diagram of which drawers are pulled most often based
on my orders contents, and I was able to position most of them at arm height,
without even needing to break the alphabetical order. (moving categories within
the same letter of the alphabet)
It's your way, it's just not my way. All I can say is that you can't
disqualify me for doing it this way. I earn €30 per hour of work in my store,
that's more than what I earned when I was working as a teacher. So I am in
no way working in a stupid way. Being able to see directly on Bricklink where
a part is / will be / was, is perfect to me. If I ever pick a wrong part, or
for whatever other reason I need to put some parts away, I can simply return
it in my stock without having to look up any numbers. This extra layer of data
is a liability that I just want to avoid... to me catalog correspondence is the
most elegant and efficient solution. Just my preference.
But you can actually have a bit of both. You can populate remark fields with
your own categories, of course. That's what I will do if next year the end
of big changes are not in sight. I guess catalog based sorting or remarks based
sorting is kind of a continuum more than totally separate worlds.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:36 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I don't use the Remarks field, and you're taking things to an illogical
conlusion. Why would something happen to the Remarks field? The Bricklink server
could get struck by lightning and all the backups could simulateneously be corrupted
too.
The OP started this thread because the catalog update that will "throw the entire
store
upside down". Sounds like trouble to me.
In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
| | In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | Going to have to echo what Nita Rae said. Relying on Bricklink's catalog
system, where you ultimately have no control over, is trouble.
|
This is a nonsensical argument. The very same can be said about the "remarks"
field. That field is completely under BL's control as well. If for whatever
reason that field goes belly-up, you are in deep doodoo, whereas catalog-based-sorted
stores can still easily find any part. Just because some stores have decided
to do things differently doesn't make them "nuts" (as a previous poster said),
and neither does will it be "trouble".
FWIW, our store has items stored according to the catalog. Sure, there will be
changes, but they are easily mirrored in our store (it is just moving some drawers
around, no big deal).
Niek.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | I don't use the Remarks field, and you're taking things to an illogical
conlusion. Why would something happen to the Remarks field?
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I don't know if something would happen to the "remarks" field. I am saying
that some (most?) shops are relying on the "remarks" field to locate their inventory.
Others rely on the BL catalog. Both are fully under BL's control. One of
the advantages of a catalog-based storage is that there is logic in where parts
are. Tell me what item you need, and I can walk into our shop at any time to
grab it for you in under 10 seconds (those are real seconds, not made up ones).
| | The Bricklink server
could get struck by lightning and all the backups could simulateneously be corrupted
too.
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... and if that happens (heavens forbid), stores who completely rely on remarks
are up the creek without a paddle. While that of course is a very hypothetical
scenario, I'd be interested to figure out how many shops would survive such
an event (does anyone actually make regular backups with "remark" fields _and_
see if they can recover in case of a calamity? - yes, we do). For us, we can
easily move to a different platform.
| | The OP started this thread because the catalog update that will "throw the entire
store upside down". Sounds like trouble to me.
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I think he was slightly exaggerating here. Other catalog-based shops chimed in
here as well, and these changes are fairly easily done.
Niek.
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| | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
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Let's get something right here, making your physical store inventory storage
… mirror the logical catalog arrangement … is completely nuts. I realized that
20 years ago, realized that I needed a local reference for where I was storing
things, exchanged a few messages with Dan, and he implemented the Remarks field.
My physical storage has no relationship to the logical organization of the Catalog
… none.
Nita Rae
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Maybe it's the current state of the world, but I honestly cannot tell if
this is sarcasm, satire, or sincerity. TWICE in a single paragraph you refer
to the catalog as logical and you also claim that trying to make use of that
logic is completely nuts
Why even have catalog categories if not for organization? Do buyers even care
about category? Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed buyers search for
parts by description or found them by knowing what set they're in. If this
is adequate to allow buyers to find parts and remarks are sufficient to allow
sellers to locate parts why even have categories? Honest question to the group:
what is the purpose of categories in BrickLink's current state?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | […]
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed buyers search for
parts by description or found them by knowing what set they're in.
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Er, I’d say you’re wrong: I (and surely others) also look for parts amongst similar
parts, so by category.
That works for stores too, especially when looking to pad up your cart (eh, what
have they got in Tile, Decorated that could be useful?)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | […]
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed buyers search for
parts by description or found them by knowing what set they're in.
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Er, I’d say you’re wrong: I (and surely others) also look for parts amongst similar
parts, so by category.
That works for stores too, especially when looking to pad up your cart (eh, what
have they got in Tile, Decorated that could be useful?)
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Great, good to know! So you indeed do find categories useful.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:08 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, chetzler writes:
| | […]
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed buyers search for
parts by description or found them by knowing what set they're in.
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Er, I’d say you’re wrong: I (and surely others) also look for parts amongst similar
parts, so by category.
That works for stores too, especially when looking to pad up your cart (eh, what
have they got in Tile, Decorated that could be useful?)
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Great, good to know! So you indeed do find categories useful.
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Well, yes, useful categories are useful.
Or, the other way around, and through an example, having the ball+socket parts
distributed between Hero trucmuche, Bionickel, and one or three other categories
isn’t useful
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 08:59 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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You've created a beautiful Lego workplace for yourself, very nice! Best of
luck with the reorganizing. I'm sure you'll handle it in a manner that
makes it yet better than it is now (if that's even possible )
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 09:34 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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You've created a beautiful Lego workplace for yourself, very nice! Best of
luck with the reorganizing. I'm sure you'll handle it in a manner that
makes it yet better than it is now (if that's even possible )
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Thanks Cory Yeah, I will figure out a work around and settle back with the
Bricklink catalog once the dust has settled. I'm stubborn like that. Guessing
here that by the end of next year, with 3 more update editions behind us, the
catalog miiight just have approximated its final form
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| | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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Location:  USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 09:47 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
ID CardAdmin_Russell
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
Type |
Status |
| May 9, 2017 |
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Admin |
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| BrickLink Administrator |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 09:56 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
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Smart! Solid logic.
Regular small changes over long periods of time, will also have the added effect
of keeping more of us catalog-aware, more involved as it were.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:12 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
Incremental updates are definitely a better way to go that a dump and run. With
a system like this that is "owned" by the parent company but was not previously
managed as such, there will always be fluidity in the system. Managing these
expectations and keeping everyone (mostly) happy is a balance that you deserve
immense credit for.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:19 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
Incremental updates are definitely a better way to go that a dump and run. With
a system like this that is "owned" by the parent company but was not previously
managed as such, there will always be fluidity in the system. Managing these
expectations and keeping everyone (mostly) happy is a balance that you deserve
immense credit for.
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Interesting. I'd prefer the other way - just make all the changes they feel
are necessary now in one go, then have stability for existing parts for a couple
of years.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:17 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
Incremental updates are definitely a better way to go that a dump and run. With
a system like this that is "owned" by the parent company but was not previously
managed as such, there will always be fluidity in the system. Managing these
expectations and keeping everyone (mostly) happy is a balance that you deserve
immense credit for.
|
Interesting. I'd prefer the other way - just make all the changes they feel
are necessary now in one go, then have stability for existing parts for a couple
of years.
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There is a balance though that is needed when you are performing maintenance
of this type though:
A- All updates at a single time (relative).
- requires a lot of prep, management, organization, community input and alignment
- takes a long amount of time and typically would continue to incur questioning
from the community of lake of response, delays and where, when, how long
B- Incremental updates by section, category or other option
- Still allows community input but applies focus
- Shows work and effort which usually gets positive response from community
that their voice is being heard and shows progress
- Allows for more focused efforts to get it right the first time and breads
standards for implementation in the future
While an all for one option is valid, in this communities case, I feel that the
sheer amount of change and the community influences don't allow for it.
Just my opinion.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | […]
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
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It could also help Studio follow the catalogue changes in a more timely fashion….
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | […]
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
It could also help Studio follow the catalogue changes in a more timely fashion….
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All proposed changes have been shared with the Studio team for input and they
plan to make the necessary adjustments before the next update.
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That’s great, but what I meant is that the more or less “stealthy” changes are
often missed, e.g.:
https://forum.bricklink.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&p=15724#p15723 (recently fixed)
or
https://forum.bricklink.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6222
so a tighter collaboration is welcome.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:44 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
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Well, I don't know how it is for other users, but looking at my situation
it definitely is about how often and not how much.
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Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
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OK, so if I understand correctly, the changes that are still in proposed status
will be listed for a future update (provided they are accepted), with a future
announcement like this one. So, this list of six is exactly what is going to
change 1 April - nothing more. In that case, makes sense.
I mean, it would be awkward to make a clear annoucement for 6 parts with a clear
date, only to suddenly implement moving all wedges to brick/plate/slope the week
after unannounced
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:02 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
Contact |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
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The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
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Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
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No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
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Well, I don't know how it is for other users, but looking at my situation
it definitely is about how often and not how much.
| |
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
OK, so if I understand correctly, the changes that are still in proposed status
will be listed for a future update (provided they are accepted), with a future
announcement like this one. So, this list of six is exactly what is going to
change 1 April - nothing more. In that case, makes sense.
I mean, it would be awkward to make a clear annoucement for 6 parts with a clear
date, only to suddenly implement moving all wedges to brick/plate/slope the week
after unannounced
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No, there are still 2 weeks to approve the other proposals for the April 1 deadline.
All of them might be approved, but it isn't certain. The only certain thing
at this point are the six listed in the newsletter, because we didn't want
the newsletter highlighting things that weren't going to change.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!
The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.
Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)
I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..
|
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
|
Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.
Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?
|
No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.
|
Well, I don't know how it is for other users, but looking at my situation
it definitely is about how often and not how much.
| |
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.
|
OK, so if I understand correctly, the changes that are still in proposed status
will be listed for a future update (provided they are accepted), with a future
announcement like this one. So, this list of six is exactly what is going to
change 1 April - nothing more. In that case, makes sense.
I mean, it would be awkward to make a clear annoucement for 6 parts with a clear
date, only to suddenly implement moving all wedges to brick/plate/slope the week
after unannounced
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No, there are still 2 weeks to approve the other proposals for the April 1 deadline.
All of them might be approved, but it isn't certain. The only certain thing
at this point are the six listed in the newsletter, because we didn't want
the newsletter highlighting things that weren't going to change.
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Uh... wow That's a mess, Russell. If wedge(plate) moves, that can be hundreds
of thousands of parts for some sellers. That would just change overnight without
a month - and not even 2 weeks headsup? I thought we really agreed here that
we needed time. You guys better approve or deny them ASAP so that category based
stores can plan their changes.
Well, I won't argue, go ahead, do what you do. I am glad I am closed.. I
will think about reopening sometime next year maybe, once this whole phase is
over and the dust has settled!
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| | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:01 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
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The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
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Catalogue Newsletter? Can you please send me the copy because I've never
received such a thing (back issues would be nice as well ta).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| |
The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
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Catalogue Newsletter? Can you please send me the copy because I've never
received such a thing (back issues would be nice as well ta).
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Yesterday was the first issue. To get future issues, please select "Yes" to marketing
emails on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
and be sure to whitelist @bricklink.com in your email settings.
I have attached a screenshot of the March newsletter. We are also planning to
start an archive where old issues can be looked up.
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An archive would be good, so we don't have to accept all marketing emails
but still get to know about important changes.
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| | | | | | | Author: | BricksThatStick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:03 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:08 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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Same! I thought it was just me only I don't see any news letter either?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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Same! I thought it was just me only I don't see any news letter either?
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This was an email that came from blservice@ bricklink . com
Double check your spam folder as it looked to be a mass blast.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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Same! I thought it was just me only I don't see any news letter either?
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This was an email that came from blservice@ bricklink . com
Double check your spam folder as it looked to be a mass blast.
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Not a chance - there is no blocking on my mail servier for blservice or bricklink
- in fact all mails are coming through as normal although late, not even the
***SPAM*** thing in front of orders and additions. Maybe only went to the USA?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:24 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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Same! I thought it was just me only I don't see any news letter either?
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This was an email that came from blservice@ bricklink . com
Double check your spam folder as it looked to be a mass blast.
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Not a chance - there is no blocking on my mail servier for blservice or bricklink
- in fact all mails are coming through as normal although late, not even the
***SPAM*** thing in front of orders and additions. Maybe only went to the USA?
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Yes I think BL may need to check whats happening as my inbox is super organised
and any filters very specific to only true spam.
I use gmail which is very easy to search and I've searched for newsletter
and via bricklink email address but nothing anywhere?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 10:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, bje writes:
| | In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | This was an email that came from blservice@ bricklink . com
Double check your spam folder as it looked to be a mass blast.
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Not a chance - there is no blocking on my mail servier for blservice or bricklink
- in fact all mails are coming through as normal although late, not even the
***SPAM*** thing in front of orders and additions. Maybe only went to the USA?
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I'm in the USA and I didn't get it - not in Spam either
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | amyfol | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:01 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Didn't get anything either..
I would also prefer to set a different emailadress for this kind of important
mailings from support + newsletter + NSS notifications. We get so much messages
from the BL system it's very hard to really notice the important mails.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, amyfol writes:
| | Didn't get anything either..
I would also prefer to set a different emailadress for this kind of important
mailings from support + newsletter + NSS notifications. We get so much messages
from the BL system it's very hard to really notice the important mails.
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I solve that by having filters in my mail to throw messages to X folders, Invoices
for example.
Also I have deactivated the Drive-Thru copy for myself, I don't need it...
https://www.bricklink.com/orderSettings.asp?viewFrom=P
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
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Exactly. “Marketing emails” sounds more like “annoying ads” (as one could expect
for the ADP) than info about catalogue changes.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:39 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | (Cancelled) |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
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I agree, not from our end, the catalog user. But from their (TLG) end it may
fall within the framework of needed legalese. As well as being the purpose for
the fairly new feature, I assume: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1259089
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
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I agree, not from our end, the catalog user. But from their (TLG) end it may
fall within the framework of needed legalese. As well as being the purpose for
the fairly new feature, I assume: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1259089
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Maybe they need one for "important service updates" too. Then they could also
email things like changes in policy concerning removing incomplete minifigures,
changes in tax collections, and so on. Things that get asked here again and again
that one email telling users what is going on might help clear up.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
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I agree, not from our end, the catalog user. But from their (TLG) end it may
fall within the framework of needed legalese. As well as being the purpose for
the fairly new feature, I assume: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1259089
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Maybe they need one for "important service updates" too. Then they could also
email things like changes in policy concerning removing incomplete minifigures,
changes in tax collections, and so on. Things that get asked here again and again
that one email telling users what is going on might help clear up.
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Smart! I'd like to see such an option.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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BrickLink
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| Location: USA, California |
| Member Since |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
|
I agree, not from our end, the catalog user. But from their (TLG) end it may
fall within the framework of needed legalese. As well as being the purpose for
the fairly new feature, I assume: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1259089
|
Maybe they need one for "important service updates" too. Then they could also
email things like changes in policy concerning removing incomplete minifigures,
changes in tax collections, and so on. Things that get asked here again and again
that one email telling users what is going on might help clear up.
|
That will be the Marketplace newsletter. BrickLink is now broken into 5 subgroups
that operate somewhat independently: Platform, Catalog, Marketplace, Studio,
and Crowd. The first Marketplace newsletter will probably come out around the
end of this month.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 15:46 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
Mine was off indeed, but I have to say, this doesn't exactly strike me as
a Marketing email.
|
I agree, not from our end, the catalog user. But from their (TLG) end it may
fall within the framework of needed legalese. As well as being the purpose for
the fairly new feature, I assume: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1259089
|
Maybe they need one for "important service updates" too. Then they could also
email things like changes in policy concerning removing incomplete minifigures,
changes in tax collections, and so on. Things that get asked here again and again
that one email telling users what is going on might help clear up.
|
That will be the Marketplace newsletter. BrickLink is now broken into 5 subgroups
that operate somewhat independently: Platform, Catalog, Marketplace, Studio,
and Crowd. The first Marketplace newsletter will probably come out around the
end of this month.
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Will we be able to subscribe to one / individual ones rather than all?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BricksThatStick | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
| | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | Catalog Newsletter which went out yesterday.
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Guess my copy is stuck in the postal system somewhere...
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Do you have Marketing emails checked? This is a new setting as of last year sometime.
The default setting is OFF:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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Bingo. Thanks.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 13:00 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.
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The catalog newsletter does not read like that at all. Now you have me confused.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 11:25 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I think the catalog admins have been incredibly clear about this entire process.
I have a category based store. I list a lot of used parts so I feel this is the
most efficient way. Yes, changes are disruptive, but I certainly don't have
to close down. Now that the changes are published and scheduled, it's very
manageable.
It takes me a day or two to move the individual parts and print some new bin
labels. It takes a couple weeks for me to remember something got moved as I
am going along pulling orders. The change log is always available on every single
item detail page if I forget.
I think it is pretty great that they have set up a system that accommodates stores
as much as possible while giving the entire community a chance for real input.
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | StephenB76 | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2021 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Two Weeks?! -side note | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| On a side note,
Every time I've gone into the forum today and seen posts on this thread I
can't help but see Arnie arriving on Mars in "Total Recall"
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