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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Dec 26, 2020 18:26 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 115-2 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with '4,5 V.' (4.5 Volt) Pattern Stamped (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Add 1 Part 996ac96blue Blue Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Blue 1-prong Connectors Hollow Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 1 Part White bb0393c85 Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Metal 1-prong connectors, 85 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 5}
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| | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2022 04:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 115-2 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with '4,5 V.' (4.5 Volt) Pattern Stamped (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Add 1 Part 996ac96blue Blue Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Blue 1-prong Connectors Hollow Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 1 Part White bb0393c85 Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Metal 1-prong connectors, 85 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 5}
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So far I only found this set in catalogs of 1966 and 1967.
Do you have catalogs of 1968 showing this set?
And could you please provide proof for your requests.
If this set was only released in 1966 and 1967, I am having some doubts about
some alternate parts from your request and those who are already in the inventory.
Diana
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2022 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 115-2 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with '4,5 V.' (4.5 Volt) Pattern Stamped (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Add 1 Part 996ac96blue Blue Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Blue 1-prong Connectors Hollow Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 1 Part White bb0393c85 Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Metal 1-prong connectors, 85 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 5}
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So far I only found this set in catalogs of 1966 and 1967.
Do you have catalogs of 1968 showing this set?
And could you please provide proof for your requests.
If this set was only released in 1966 and 1967, I am having some doubts about
some alternate parts from your request and those who are already in the inventory.
Diana
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was only used in 1966. Since 1967, the blue connectors with hollow pins were
produced, as for train 116.
The blue motor
[p=bb0007,7]
was used for few trians and between 1966-late 1967.
The black one
[p=bb0007,11]
was used only for
I checked about 30 used copies so far (in the last 2-3 years) and only found
it once in Germany. (and all parts were early variant) Unfortunately I did not
buy it.
The black
[p=bb0007pb01,11]
was introduced for few sets, specially for
as in can be seen on the instructions
http://www.peeron.com/scans/118-1/4
This motor should be the regular one for 118. (request in pending condition)
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1264807
Since 1969, the motor
in blue and black was introduced for
and other sets.
Then what about
?
I checked many trains. This motor was produced either in 1967 or 1968.
I found it with one or two used train
and I think
or maybe
(It was in UK)
I was surprised to find one black one in the Netherlands (on BL) and I bought
it. It did not show up anywhere again. Is it used for early 116-1?
My conclusion is that this motor has a short production in 1967 and was used
(at least the blue one) for 115 and 100 (and 112 and 113?).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2022 04:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 115-2 | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with '4,5 V.' (4.5 Volt) Pattern Stamped (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Add 1 Part 996ac96blue Blue Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Blue 1-prong Connectors Hollow Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 1 Part White bb0393c85 Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Metal 1-prong connectors, 85 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 5}
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So far I only found this set in catalogs of 1966 and 1967.
Do you have catalogs of 1968 showing this set?
And could you please provide proof for your requests.
If this set was only released in 1966 and 1967, I am having some doubts about
some alternate parts from your request and those who are already in the inventory.
Diana
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was only used in 1966. Since 1967, the blue connectors with hollow pins were
produced, as for train 116.
The blue motor
[p=bb0007,7]
was used for few trians and between 1966-late 1967.
The black one
[p=bb0007,11]
was used only for
I checked about 30 used copies so far (in the last 2-3 years) and only found
it once in Germany. (and all parts were early variant) Unfortunately I did not
buy it.
The black
[p=bb0007pb01,11]
was introduced for few sets, specially for
as in can be seen on the instructions
http://www.peeron.com/scans/118-1/4
This motor should be the regular one for 118. (request in pending condition)
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1264807
Since 1969, the motor
in blue and black was introduced for
and other sets.
Then what about
?
I checked many trains. This motor was produced either in 1967 or 1968.
I found it with one or two used train
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| | and I think
or maybe
(It was in UK)
I was surprised to find one black one in the Netherlands (on BL) and I bought
it. It did not show up anywhere again. Is it used for early 116-1?
My conclusion is that this motor has a short production in 1967 and was used
(at least the blue one) for 115 and 100 (and 112 and 113?).
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Don't understand me wrong, I do appreciate all your info on vintage trains
and I'm glad there are other vintage train nerds besides me, that actually
are interested in the exact inventories and contributing to the Bricklink catalog.
Looking at change requests, I do check inventories of other sets (and I do read
all your replies), but I prefer handling requests one at a time.
I asked for evidence for this particular set, but I can't find any in your
reply. As far as I know, this set was only sold in 1966-1967. I don't have
any evidence it was sold after 1967 and no evidence, that the following parts
came in this set:
[P=bb0007pb01,7]
if it did appear in this set, the color should be white instead of blue
This plate was added as alternate back in 2010. The regular variant with Cutout
narrow could only be used with the old metal connectors. Imo all three parts
were released in 1968 and the older regular variants were used in 1966-1967.
The change request for the alternate Motor Plate was obviously not based on a
boxed set, otherwise the wire would also have been added, so would the wheels
with tires I added 2 days ago.
I checked the inventory in 2019, based on Instruction only. After that I bought
a boxed set, with original contents in excellent condition. My set has those
3 parts listed as regular. As soon as I have time I will add images to my change
request:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=317582
I found images of this set on Peeron. It has another box insert then my set.
I don't want to use these images as evidence though, because it also shows
a batterybox that was released in 1969, so items obviously have been replaced.
Unless this set was sold after 1967, I would like to ask you to give it a second
thought and let me know. Same if you have evidence this set was sold after 1967.
Keep on tracking!
Diana
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2022 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 115-2 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bb0007pb01 Blue Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 with '4,5 V.' (4.5 Volt) Pattern Stamped (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Add 1 Part 996ac96blue Blue Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Blue 1-prong Connectors Hollow Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 5)
* Change 1 Part Blue bb0007 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 1 Part White bb0393c85 Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Metal 1-prong connectors, 85 Studs Long {match ID 0 to 5}
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So far I only found this set in catalogs of 1966 and 1967.
Do you have catalogs of 1968 showing this set?
And could you please provide proof for your requests.
If this set was only released in 1966 and 1967, I am having some doubts about
some alternate parts from your request and those who are already in the inventory.
Diana
|
was only used in 1966. Since 1967, the blue connectors with hollow pins were
produced, as for train 116.
The blue motor
[p=bb0007,7]
was used for few trians and between 1966-late 1967.
The black one
[p=bb0007,11]
was used only for
I checked about 30 used copies so far (in the last 2-3 years) and only found
it once in Germany. (and all parts were early variant) Unfortunately I did not
buy it.
The black
[p=bb0007pb01,11]
was introduced for few sets, specially for
as in can be seen on the instructions
http://www.peeron.com/scans/118-1/4
This motor should be the regular one for 118. (request in pending condition)
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1264807
Since 1969, the motor
in blue and black was introduced for
and other sets.
Then what about
?
I checked many trains. This motor was produced either in 1967 or 1968.
I found it with one or two used train
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| | and I think
or maybe
(It was in UK)
I was surprised to find one black one in the Netherlands (on BL) and I bought
it. It did not show up anywhere again. Is it used for early 116-1?
My conclusion is that this motor has a short production in 1967 and was used
(at least the blue one) for 115 and 100 (and 112 and 113?).
|
Don't understand me wrong, I do appreciate all your info on vintage trains
and I'm glad there are other vintage train nerds besides me, that actually
are interested in the exact inventories and contributing to the Bricklink catalog.
Looking at change requests, I do check inventories of other sets (and I do read
all your replies), but I prefer handling requests one at a time.
I asked for evidence for this particular set, but I can't find any in your
reply. As far as I know, this set was only sold in 1966-1967. I don't have
any evidence it was sold after 1967 and no evidence, that the following parts
came in this set:
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These requests are correct even if this set was only sold in 1967-8. The following
parts were all produced since 1967.
Timeline of 4.5v Motor:
1966:
[p=bb0007,7]
1967 (for a short period)
since 1967 after the previous version of motor until end of 1968
[p=bb0007pb01,7]
Timeline of Blue connectors in
is since 1967 with train 116.
Timeline of
is since 1967 but TLG used the earlier version first so it was first used sometime
in the middle of 1967.
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[P=bb0007pb01,7]
if it did appear in this set, the color should be white instead of blue
This plate was added as alternate back in 2010. The regular variant with Cutout
narrow could only be used with the old metal connectors.
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I am not sure about this. May double check this if I own the parts.
| | Imo all three parts
were released in 1968 and the older regular variants were used in 1966-1967.
The change request for the alternate Motor Plate was obviously not based on a
boxed set, otherwise the wire would also have been added, so would the wheels
with tires I added 2 days ago.
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The starting point of this request was a copy I bought from UK. Its box was poor
but it came with all its books and original parts, broken motor,...
I then checked few other used sets and used the above timeline.
| | I checked the inventory in 2019, based on Instruction only. After that I bought
a boxed set, with original contents in excellent condition. My set has those
3 parts listed as regular. As soon as I have time I will add images to my change
request:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=317582
I found images of this set on Peeron. It has another box insert then my set.
I don't want to use these images as evidence though, because it also shows
a batterybox that was released in 1969, so items obviously have been replaced.
Unless this set was sold after 1967, I would like to ask you to give it a second
thought and let me know. Same if you have evidence this set was sold after 1967.
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This request can be approved without using the fact that it was sold in UK in
1968:
1968 UK
https://images.brickset.com/library/Catalogues/c68uk.pdf
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