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| | | Author: | Turez  | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 11:28 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (Undetermined Type) to 44301a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Orange {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End and 9 Teeth with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Pics following.
No batch code because I got this set without box.
I would say the orange
can stay here. Several pics at brickshelf show this set build up with the + hole variant and these orange round plates were quite rare until 2013 (only appeared in 4 sets) so it seems unlikely that they are not original from the set.
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1721413
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4396442
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4187631
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| | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 11:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (Undetermined Type) to 44301a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Orange {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End and 9 Teeth with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Pics following.
No batch code because I got this set without box.
I would say the orange
can stay here. Several pics at brickshelf show this set build up with the + hole variant and these orange round plates were quite rare until 2013 (only appeared in 4 sets) so it seems unlikely that they are not original from the set.
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1721413
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4396442
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4187631
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
None of those show the parts coming from a sealed set, so they could easily be
recreations. Being recreations means that the parts in those images could have
come from
rather than any of the original Titan XP sets.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 15:59 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
None of those show the parts coming from a sealed set, so they could easily be
recreations. Being recreations means that the parts in those images could have
come from
rather than any of the original Titan XP sets.
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Yep, I know we cannot be sure, but I would still say it is unlikely that at least
three people would recreate this set (with all its rare chrome and sand blue
parts) instead of buying an original copy. But I will try to find definite proof
before I confirm the inventory. 
Worthpoint is for sure useful in some cases, but the images which I can see there
are often quite small (about 400x300px) and therefore not that useful to determine
part variants. Or am I missing an option to enlarge them?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2020 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
None of those show the parts coming from a sealed set, so they could easily be
recreations. Being recreations means that the parts in those images could have
come from
rather than any of the original Titan XP sets.
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Yep, I know we cannot be sure, but I would still say it is unlikely that at least
three people would recreate this set (with all its rare chrome and sand blue
parts) instead of buying an original copy. But I will try to find definite proof
before I confirm the inventory.
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I left the '+' variant in there for now. The sealed sets that I saw besides
yours also had the 'x' variant, so the data to keep the '+' variant
is flimsy at best right now. 
| | Worthpoint is for sure useful in some cases, but the images which I can see there
are often quite small (about 400x300px) and therefore not that useful to determine
part variants. Or am I missing an option to enlarge them?
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It depends on when the auctions from ebay were archived by them. If they are
old auctions from many, many years ago, the images may be poor, but auctions
within the last 4-6 years have much higher quality images. You have to pay attention
to when the auction was archived. In any case, the data from Worthpoint is invaluable.
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 16:12 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (Undetermined Type) to 44301a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Orange {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End and 9 Teeth with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Pics following.
No batch code because I got this set without box.
I would say the orange
can stay here. Several pics at brickshelf show this set build up with the + hole variant and these orange round plates were quite rare until 2013 (only appeared in 4 sets) so it seems unlikely that they are not original from the set.
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1721413
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4396442
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4187631
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I don't know if you know this site, but it saves images from E**y listings:
https://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=lego+4508&categories=
Maybe you can use it to get sources.
Greetings,
Sergio
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 19, 2020 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4508-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (Undetermined Type) to 44301a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Orange {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End and 9 Teeth with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Pics following.
No batch code because I got this set without box.
I would say the orange
can stay here. Several pics at brickshelf show this set build up with the + hole variant and these orange round plates were quite rare until 2013 (only appeared in 4 sets) so it seems unlikely that they are not original from the set.
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1721413
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4396442
https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4187631
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I don't know if you know this site, but it saves images from E**y listings:
https://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=lego+4508&categories=
Maybe you can use it to get sources.
Greetings,
Sergio
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Yes, I have known about it for a long time and use it all the time.
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