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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Dec 15, 2020 22:00
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 118-3
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SezaR (1380)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 118  Name: Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
* 
118-3 (Inv) Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
424 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Delete 8 Part 3359 Red Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2 Base
* Delete 8 Part 3358 Red Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2
* Delete 3 Part 3218 White Train Direction Switch - 4.5V 2 x 3
* Delete 1 Part 813a Light Gray Train Level Crossing Base - Solid Center
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Add 2 Part 3176 Red Plate, Modified 3 x 2 with Hole
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 2 Part x489 Blue Train Signal Post
* Delete 2 Part trainsig2 Blue Train Signal Circuit-Breaker Bar
* Delete 4 Part 3004 Blue Brick 1 x 2
* Delete 1 Part 815c02 White Train Level Crossing Gate Type 1, Assembly with Blue Base & Red Handle (Left)
* Delete 1 Part 815c01 White Train Level Crossing Gate Type 1, Assembly with Blue Base & Red Handle (Right)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Trans-Clear Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 3002old Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Change {16 to 32} Part Red 3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
* Change {2 to 1} Part Blue x878cx1 Train, Track 4.5V Switch Point Left with White Ties
* Change {3 to 6} Part Black 3005 Brick 1 x 1
* Change {2 to 4} Part Black 3037 Slope 45 2 x 4
* Change {9 to 18} Part Black 3004 Brick 1 x 2
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Dec 15, 2020 22:04
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 118-3
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 118  Name: Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
* 
118-3 (Inv) Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
424 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Delete 8 Part 3359 Red Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2 Base
* Delete 8 Part 3358 Red Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2
* Delete 3 Part 3218 White Train Direction Switch - 4.5V 2 x 3
* Delete 1 Part 813a Light Gray Train Level Crossing Base - Solid Center
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Add 2 Part 3176 Red Plate, Modified 3 x 2 with Hole
* Add 4 Part wheel1bc01 Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel1b / trainrim)
* Delete 4 Part wheel1b Red Train Wheel with 2 x 2 Stud Center, Beveled Tread and Cam Axle for Motor
* Delete 4 Part wheel2ac02 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim) (Counterpart)
* Delete 2 Part x489 Blue Train Signal Post
* Delete 2 Part trainsig2 Blue Train Signal Circuit-Breaker Bar
* Delete 4 Part 3004 Blue Brick 1 x 2
* Delete 1 Part 815c02 White Train Level Crossing Gate Type 1, Assembly with Blue Base & Red Handle (Left)
* Delete 1 Part 815c01 White Train Level Crossing Gate Type 1, Assembly with Blue Base & Red Handle (Right)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Trans-Clear Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Change {5 to 4} Part Black 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 3002old Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Change {16 to 32} Part Red 3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 Solid Stud
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
* Change {2 to 1} Part Blue x878cx1 Train, Track 4.5V Switch Point Left with White Ties
* Change {3 to 6} Part Black 3005 Brick 1 x 1
* Change {2 to 4} Part Black 3037 Slope 45 2 x 4
* Change {9 to 18} Part Black 3004 Brick 1 x 2
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 3022 Plate 2 x 2

1) One black
 
Part No: 3039  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2
* 
3039 Slope 45 2 x 2
Parts: Slope {Black}

and two black
 
Part No: 3045  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
* 
3045 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
Parts: Slope {Black}

are used on the front car of
 
Set No: 119  Name: Super Train Set
* 
119-1 (Inv) Super Train Set
394 Parts, 1968
Sets: Train: 4.5V
but not on the fron car of
 
Set No: 118  Name: Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
* 
118-3 (Inv) Motorized Freight or Passenger Train (Sears Exclusive)
424 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

however the two black
 
Part No: 3045  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
* 
3045 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
Parts: Slope {Black}
are used on the alternative model.

2) Each of the eight fence gates (and their bases)
 
Part No: 3358  Name: Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2 Lattice
* 
3358 Fence Gate 1 x 3 x 2 Lattice
Parts: Fence {Red}
in
 
Set No: 119  Name: Super Train Set
* 
119-1 (Inv) Super Train Set
394 Parts, 1968
Sets: Train: 4.5V
are replaced by two
 
Part No: 3062a  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
* 
3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
Parts: Brick, Round {Red}
making the total of red bricks
16+8*2=32 .

3) there is one
 
Part No: 3176  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
* 
3176 Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}
on each of the yellow cars. So there are two of them in total and one more on
the second car (with battery case). There should be a forth one applied on the
alternative car but we don't know if it is
 
Part No: 3176  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
* 
3176 Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}

or
 
Part No: 737  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
* 
737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}

Note: on the instructions of 119-3, it is printed
"the set contains enough parts to build either of these trains."

Unfortunately, TLG did not print on the instrucitons:
"we will sell enough number of this Sears-exclusive train to make sure 50 years
later, there will be enough evidence left on Ebay or worthpoint for inventory
contributors to correct the Bricklink catalog."

4) The other parts are used on the front car of the alternative build, shown
on the instructions.

5) the other changes are based on the instructions and 1969 SEARS Christmas Catalog:
See
http://www.brickfetish.com/samsonite/H-2529/index.htm?1

The first version of instructions of 119-3
https://bricks.argz.com/ins/119-1

1969 SEARS Christmas Catalog
https://brickshelf.com/gallery/estrand/Vintage-Ads/lego_ad_1969_sears_catalog.jpg
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Mar 6, 2022 06:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 118-3
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:

  
3) there is one
 
Part No: 3176  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
* 
3176 Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}
on each of the yellow cars. So there are two of them in total and one more on
the second car (with battery case). There should be a forth one applied on the
alternative car but we don't know if it is
 
Part No: 3176  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
* 
3176 Plate, Modified 2 x 3 with Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}

or
 
Part No: 737  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
* 
737 Plate, Modified 2 x 4 with Train Coupler Closed for Hook
Parts: Plate, Modified {Red}


The instructions (which I have original now, instead of a partly copy in the
past), only shows 3176 in steps 8 and 9, but in the zoomed image above thes steps
it shows 737, just like the others. So I prefer the inventory of these parts
to stay as it is.

Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Mar 6, 2022 08:15
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 118-3
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In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
* Change {9 to 18} Part Black 3004 Brick 1 x 2

Having doubts about this request. In step 2 of the instruction you can see extra
studs on the images (back row 4). It could be a beam, or it could be a picture
error. The 1x1 bricks on the row below could be a beam also. The instruction
just isn't clear enough.

So untill further proof (which will probably never come), we assume these are
1x1 and 1x2 bricks.

All requests approved except for the 3176 change.
I checked based on instructions, didn't check all parts (just your requests
and the 4 parts below) and I didn't build the set.

Added the following changes:

- windows 29bc01 16 to 18 (2 extra for Freight Loco)
- 3027 light gray 2 to 3 (1 extra for Freight Wagons)
- crssprt02 red 2 to 4 (for 3th freight train wagon, between two 2x3 slopes on
6x16 plate)
- 3001old black 7 to 9 (Freight Train has 1 more wagon)

Based on the inventory as it is now, we have 424 parts, 27 parts short.

The inventory definately needs some extra red bricks and maybe some yellow plates
for the first Freight Train Wagon.
Loco checked, 3th wagon checked and you should be able to build the 4th wagon
from parts also used in the Passenger Train. Image of 2nd wagon is not clear
enough.

Second wagon could be build with 3 rows of bricks:
1. 1x6, 1x4, 1x6
2. 1x1, 1x4, three 1x2, 1x4, 1x1
3. 1x6, 1x4, 1x6
For both sides of the plate = 26 parts
But just one extra yellow plate for the roof won't be enough


Diana

PS: anyone who reads this thread and has this set, please check contents and
add images
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 6, 2022 13:37
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 118-3
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Store: Sezar's trains
In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
* Change {9 to 18} Part Black 3004 Brick 1 x 2

Having doubts about this request. In step 2 of the instruction you can see extra
studs on the images (back row 4). It could be a beam, or it could be a picture
error. The 1x1 bricks on the row below could be a beam also. The instruction
just isn't clear enough.

So untill further proof (which will probably never come), we assume these are
1x1 and 1x2 bricks.

All requests approved except for the 3176 change.
I checked based on instructions, didn't check all parts (just your requests
and the 4 parts below) and I didn't build the set.

Added the following changes:

- windows 29bc01 16 to 18 (2 extra for Freight Loco)
- 3027 light gray 2 to 3 (1 extra for Freight Wagons)
- crssprt02 red 2 to 4 (for 3th freight train wagon, between two 2x3 slopes on
6x16 plate)
- 3001old black 7 to 9 (Freight Train has 1 more wagon)

Based on the inventory as it is now, we have 424 parts, 27 parts short.

The inventory definately needs some extra red bricks and maybe some yellow plates
for the first Freight Train Wagon.
Loco checked, 3th wagon checked and you should be able to build the 4th wagon
from parts also used in the Passenger Train. Image of 2nd wagon is not clear
enough.

Second wagon could be build with 3 rows of bricks:
1. 1x6, 1x4, 1x6
2. 1x1, 1x4, three 1x2, 1x4, 1x1
3. 1x6, 1x4, 1x6
For both sides of the plate = 26 parts
But just one extra yellow plate for the roof won't be enough


I had thought the two extra buildings on the catalog could be part of the set
but based on about 27 parts missing, so maybe not.

https://brickshelf.com/gallery/estrand/Vintage-Ads/lego_ad_1969_sears_catalog.jpg

  
Diana

PS: anyone who reads this thread and has this set, please check contents and
add images

I have been dying to find one single listing of this set. I checked worthpoint
and have been checking Ebay for few years but there is no listing of even the
instructions! How did you find the instructions?!!