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| | | Author: | mockingbird  | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 05:16 | | Subject: | Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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| | | | | Author: | novabrick | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 05:25 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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Oh dang, yes. I kinda can read greek and a bit of russian but chinese and hebrew
are defintely beyond me. Some countries have a weird postal adress system. But
it would make things easier if I have some clear idea what mean what in the adresses.
At least I won't have to google what is what so often.
This would help everyone involved.
Christian
novabrick-team
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| | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 05:33 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
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Use the UPU tool, then it is easy to see:
https://www.upu.int/en/Postal-Solutions/Programmes-Services/Addressing-Solutions#scroll-nav__5
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And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
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The buyer should tell you, surely?
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And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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For international orders there are countries which require addresses to be written
in national alphabet. It would be better if the information is actually available
in BL as it is required by the buyer's postal system as it is a pain to get
the required information after the fact from buyers.
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/documents/PostCode/Universal-POSTCODE%C2%AE-DataBase-specific-FAQs.pdf
It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 06:54 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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It would be good to have an extra step, showing the buyer exactly how their address
will appear to sellers with a check box saying that they agree it is in the correct
format.
I once had a buyer that was along the lines of:
A Name
1 Street Name
LONDON
LONDON
London AB1 2CD
United Kingdom
I think they lived in London! I missed out two lines of the address and the parcel
still got there fine.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 07:12 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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It would be good to have an extra step, showing the buyer exactly how their address
will appear to sellers with a check box saying that they agree it is in the correct
format.
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+1
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I once had a buyer that was along the lines of:
A Name
1 Street Name
LONDON
LONDON
London AB1 2CD
United Kingdom
I think they lived in London! I missed out two lines of the address and the parcel
still got there fine.
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 A seller once got my address completely wrong. When I complained I was bluntly
told to move to a country with easier addresses (format here is street, TOWN,
post code, country). After 2 delivery attempts a front desk post office employee
working in the sorting room by chance saw it with the RTS sticker already on
and corrected the address. Took 5 months to get delivered.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | novabrick | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 08:47 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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It would be good to have an extra step, showing the buyer exactly how their address
will appear to sellers with a check box saying that they agree it is in the correct
format.
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Reminds me of some of the adresses I see here
Like
Emmet Brickowski
42
Lucy Way 7-11 Appartment
New Brickburgia 1234
Brickcity
Legoland
(This is entirely made up)
So is "New Brickburgia" now the province/state or is it "Brickcity"?
And I hope 42 is the number to the street and the rest is additional notes for
the house?
Some clear distinction would have been nice.
Like
NAME
STREET
HOUSENUMBER
ADDITIONAL NOTES
ZIP CODE
CITY
PROVINCE/STATE
COUNTRY
Christian
novabrick-team
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| | | | | | | Author: | mockingbird | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 07:20 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | For international orders there are countries which require addresses to be written
in national alphabet. It would be better if the information is actually available
in BL as it is required by the buyer's postal system as it is a pain to get
the required information after the fact from buyers.
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/documents/PostCode/Universal-POSTCODE%C2%AE-DataBase-specific-FAQs.pdf
It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.
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I use the app of the postal service I use to create the shipping labels. They
provide certain fields that can be filled out. But from the bricklink address
it is not alway clear which is which.
I've not yet had orders from a country that needed a national alphabet.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | novabrick | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 08:33 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | I use the app of the postal service I use to create the shipping labels. They
provide certain fields that can be filled out. But from the bricklink address
it is not alway clear which is which.
I've not yet had orders from a country that needed a national alphabet.
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We had a request from a customer to write the address extra on the package in
russian letters. So basically it had the stickering from the post with all data
in normal letters and an additinal sticker with his adress in russian letters.
But this was on special demand.
Christian
novabrick-team
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, novabrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | I use the app of the postal service I use to create the shipping labels. They
provide certain fields that can be filled out. But from the bricklink address
it is not alway clear which is which.
I've not yet had orders from a country that needed a national alphabet.
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We had a request from a customer to write the address extra on the package in
russian letters. So basically it had the stickering from the post with all data
in normal letters and an additinal sticker with his adress in russian letters.
But this was on special demand.
Christian
novabrick-team
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Maybe there should be the option to upload / download an image that can be printed.
Especially where it uses a non-Latin alphabet.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 08:57 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, novabrick writes:
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We had a request from a customer to write the address extra on the package in
russian letters. So basically it had the stickering from the post with all data
in normal letters and an additinal sticker with his adress in russian letters.
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I think the terms you were looking for are “Latin letters” and “Cyrillic letters.”
Cyrillic is pretty “normal” for a couple hundred of millions of people 
(Also, to others in this thread: it’s not “national alphabet,” it’s “national
writing system.”)
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Dec 3, 2020 12:56 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc.
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You wouldn't need to know. Note that there are many places where the format
street / housenumber / city does not work as you are used to at home. Bricklink's
address entering system is aware of many local conventions and already provides
the format that is needed in the buyer's country.
| | And even with national addresses it is not clear. I just had somebody with two
streetnames and numbers. This is probably the address 1 streetname, number and
the optional address 2 streetname, number. But when shipping I can only use one
address. When would I as a seller use the optional address, how would i know
to use it?
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Buyer's responsibility. When unsure, use Google Maps or similar to check
the local situation. What appears to be two address may in fact be a single one.
Some street names include a number ('Leiding 75', some don't look
a streetname ('E', some addresses are for an entire village that used
to be a single institution. When still in doubt: ask the buyer, they know best.
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And it would also be useful if the address is filled out in 'english'
(i.e. no chinese, russian, israelian characters that are not always available
in shipping label apps)
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Then the problem is in the shipping apps. Many countries do not use the latin
alphabet but use and demand a different writing system altogether. I'd prefer
to use the writing system that the postal workers in the country of destination
are used to. The only thing that you need in latin alphabet is the name of the
destination country, so that the Dutch postal service knows where to send it.
For the rest, it may be ཁྲིན་ཀོན་ཆུས་ (Lhasa, Tibet), दिल्ली (Delhi, India),
Владивосто́к (Vladivostok, Russia) or 北京市 (Beijing, China). Why wouldn't
this be available in shipping label apps? You can just copy-paste any unicode
text like I did here.
(And in reply to Sylvain's remark: only one of these writing systems uses
an alphabet.)
When in doubt, just make a printout of the address exactly as shown in the order
or as provided by the buyer. The buyer knows best what the local postman will
need.
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| | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2020 13:07 | | Subject: | Re: Please show address fields | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
| | In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
| | Would it be possible to show the names of the address fields?
With international addresses it sometimes is not clear what is the city, what
is the region, what is the streetname, etc. [...]
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Just found this great resource on address formatting around the world:
https://www.grcdi.nl/gsb/netherlands.html
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Netherlands, Noord-Brabant
Germany, Schleswig-Holstein
South Africa, Western Cape
United Kingdom, England
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
