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| | | Author: | xoshimin  | | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:42 | | Subject: | Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 239 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Inventories Administrator | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:48 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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| | | | | | | Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:56 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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I will try to take some good photos tomorrow afternoon and upload them for free
download. I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
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| | | | | | | Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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I hope these photos are suitable for the site. Write if you need other photos.
I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
https://yadi.sk/d/LerMvEsDGUTmfQ
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:56 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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| | | | | | | Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:10 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
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Sealed sets, very nice Light Gray, not yellowy Light Bluish Gray.
| | If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006.
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And sets routinely come with older variant pieces that were no longer in production
when the set was produced.
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at all in the Light Gray color.
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What I am telling you is that they did. I have seen them and I sold them in
January.
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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I have seen it several times in Dacta Technic/Mindstorm sets.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | xoshimin | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.
Regards
Alexei
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:23 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore. I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time. In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
A little more information about the configuration of 9797 sets:
Items 41752 and 41753 were included only in the set of 2006, in the future (2009
and 2012) rubbers lay in cardboard boxes.
Part bb0273 could only be included in the 2006 kit along with the x1678 battery.
Part bb0527 could only be included in the 2009 and 2012 set along with the 87662c01
battery.
Regards
Alexei
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That hat color is known here as Brittle Blue. You can search that on the forum
to find out more.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I have disassembled about 20 sets of 9797 (I have 17 Activity Booklet). I have
disassembled about 15 sets DACTA and Educational. Relying on this experience,
I wrote a message to the forum.
I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.
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Probably not. They probably made it for model shops and then the leftovers got
put into Dacta sets.
| | I think LEGO could allow a
marriage in the composition of the plastic and the detail has changed color a
little over time.
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This can happen occasionally to some colors in some conditions, but the difference
between light gray and light bluish gray is still noticeable.
| | In the photo, the cap and legs that I took out of one sealed
package from the DACTA set. These details are blue, but the cap has a yellowish
tinge. And such blue details with a yellow tint I have seen in many sets of DACTA
and Educational. In my opinion, this is not a new blue color, it is a marriage
of plastic (I do not sell such parts).
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This is a color that collectors refer to as "Brittle Blue". Do a search for it
in the forums and you will learn all about it.
| | I don't think we should continue the argument. This is a question of the
difference between my experience and yours. I think the bricklink database administrator
already has enough information to make the right decision.
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There never was an argument, was there? The history of LEGO encompasses a lot
more than just the Dacta sets, so you have to have a broader knowledge about
where they fit in the scheme of things. This history includes sets including
mixes of the grays long after the color switch in 2004, the fact that Dacta sets
are sometimes dumping grounds for leftover parts, etc.
| | If necessary, I can send a request to LEGO to see if the 9797 set included parts
with the Light Gray color.
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Go for it. However, I bet you, I, Jonathan (axaday) and a few others here probably
know a lot more about the set than they do. 
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 18:54 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | I'm sure LEGO won't release the item (56145) in Light Gray color to put
it only in some 9797 sets and not use it anymore.
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If we had perfect knowledge, I am sure we would find that other sets had light
gray also. But most of those sets were opened and built and then went to garage
sales and trash cans. The ones that actually get opened and investigated are
a small sample. I have a vintage set on the way that has never been inventoried
before. And plenty of other sets haven't been verified or haven't been
parted out a lot by people who correct inventories.
Manufacturing pieces is one operation and packing sets is another operation and
the people or machines who pack the sets use the parts they have on hand.
It is clear from sets like 9797 and the Star Destroyer that set packers considered
LG and LBG to be the interchangeable until the time came that there were no more
LG parts in the bins. Hygrotus pulled a variant piece from a new set last year
that hadn't been seen in a new set in something like a decade. 32064c should
phase out somewhere around 2005, but Turez found one in a 2008 set. Because
some facility that packs sets still had some.
Frequently when entering PCCs on new pieces, I find something like (I am making
these specific numbers up!) most new PCCs we've been entering for months
are like 6301111 and 6301333 and then a new hair piece comes out with 6271222.
Sets are designed long before they are announced and released and there is no
reason to assume that a piece that didn't get released until 2006 wasn't
produced a few years earlier in some quantities. Some of the Dots elements were
made for Dots and then they decided not to release Dots and some of the pieces
made their way into sets last year. Then they decided to release Dots a year
later. They used those pieces in other sets because they had been manufactured
and were just sitting there. Similarly, LG 56145 may have been produced for
a set that didn't get released and then when they started making the piece
in LBG they used up the LG too. Or maybe when they develop a new part that they
want to start putting in sets, they start manufacturing it in the most obvious
colors, but by the time a designer put it in a set, they had changed over the
LBG, but still had the LG. We really don't know. But I promise you that
I can tell the difference between them and I found what I found. I have not
parted out 20 9797s. But I have parted out 8 of them from 5 different sources.
I have found all 3 heads and both kinds of hats and both kinds of light grays.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260780
In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
|
I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
|
Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
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Jon only parts out brand new sets that have never been opened. If he found light
gray parts, he found light gray parts.
| | If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004.
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They sure did. See https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&colorInSet=9&sortBy=Y&sortAsc=D&catType=S
| | A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
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It was at some point, and it happened to make it into this set according to Jon.
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:25 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | | | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
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Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
See the additional note on the set:
"The early production runs of this set featured Light Gray elements but subsequent
production runs have contained varying mixtures of Light Gray and Light Bluish
Gray elements."
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
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I bought my 10030 a year after I decided to because I had to wait until I got
a bonus at work. It arrived in LBG. I had never seen LBG before and I hated
it.
I have gotten used to LBG by now. I do like LG better. But on the Star Destroyer,
LBG just isn't right.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | May 20, 2020 16:23 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 9, 2021 04:11 | | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| | Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012.
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This request has been open since May of last year. I apologize that it wasn't
addressed until now.
I marked this request as Already Exists because you're welcome to
submit new versions of the set to the catalog if you'd like:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp
Or, if you feel that the existing inventory can sustain the comparisons of all
three versions (our preferred solution), you can submit inventory change requests
here:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp
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