|
 |
| | | Author: | brickskipper  | | Posted: | May 4, 2020 16:03 | | Subject: | Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 174 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
|
| Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | Brick_Qc | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:04 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
Kids on this forum ? Are you crazy ? Unless they have their own forum, no thank
you. I'm sure the admins will love to moderate that.
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Author: | BrickAThon | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, Brick_Qc writes:
| | In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
Kids on this forum ? Are you crazy ? Unless they have their own forum, no thank
you. I'm sure the admins will love to moderate that.
|
Agree with no underage kids in the forum (I recall how that has looked in the
past when they sneak in, LOL).
I also agree with this idea, though - to allow people to make a list for use
that they can publish - not sure how it could best be done, but the idea is solid
in how it could help enhance the ability to bring in new users (adults) to buy,
and kids are super savvy at stuff these days and this could really bolster some
new interest.
My two cents.
Tracy
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | […]
Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
|
Danger, danger.
If you let kids upload their digital work in the gallery¹, it will soon be even
messier than it is (or than it was at the beginning or the LDD gallery or any
gallery kids can upload their 3-stacked-bricks creations (yes, that’s condescending
but let’s face it, most kids aren’t Mozart)).
¹ If you want to share a WL, you might want to add a picture of the model with
it, and that’s exactly the same thing as uploading to the gallery.
Besides, what’s the purpose of a WL if it’s not to buy it?
So, your kid uploads a WL (or a MOC) on their teen-account, and you download
/ transfer / share it so that you can buy it from your account.
It’s quicker to let them directly upload a WL in your BL account from Studio.
If they are savvy enough to manage what is proposed, they can understand not
to touch your WLs and to name theirs intelligently.
(Studio can upload a WL directly to your BL account in one click.
What it can’t do is make a XML file of the WL so that you wouldn’t need to let
your kid have your BL credentials. It can do a useless CSV though….)
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | May 6, 2020 02:41 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | […]
Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
|
Danger, danger.
If you let kids upload their digital work in the gallery¹, it will soon be even
messier than it is (or than it was at the beginning or the LDD gallery or any
gallery kids can upload their 3-stacked-bricks creations (yes, that’s condescending
but let’s face it, most kids aren’t Mozart)).
¹ If you want to share a WL, you might want to add a picture of the model with
it, and that’s exactly the same thing as uploading to the gallery.
Besides, what’s the purpose of a WL if it’s not to buy it?
So, your kid uploads a WL (or a MOC) on their teen-account, and you download
/ transfer / share it so that you can buy it from your account.
It’s quicker to let them directly upload a WL in your BL account from Studio.
If they are savvy enough to manage what is proposed, they can understand not
to touch your WLs and to name theirs intelligently.
(Studio can upload a WL directly to your BL account in one click.
What it can’t do is make a XML file of the WL so that you wouldn’t need to let
your kid have your BL credentials. It can do a useless CSV though….)
|
Yes, Studio needs to be logged in to Bricklink to do this. Some features are
only available when logged in (Sculpture, Upload WL, Upload MOC). If the child
is using Studio, it is effectively using Bricklink as a junior, which is not
allowed according to the TOS. I conclude that junior accounts are an essential
development if BL wants Studio to be used by youngsters as well.
|
|
|
| | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | May 6, 2020 04:45 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
| | […]
Before LEGO bought BrickLink I would have said no...
But I can see a point in using Studio (especially now LDD is not supported),
and linking that to a wanted list...
|
Danger, danger.
|
I agree with that. It would have to be a very limited set of functions... And
there is always the risk that we atract more children pretending to be adults.
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
|
I voted no when you first posted this (not that the site pays any heed whatsoever
at this point in time to suggestions anyway). It's the LEGO Group's
job to market to and interact with children. It's BrickLink's job to
market to and interact with adults. That age separation has worked fairly well
for the last two decades.
| | Kids could browse the catalog
|
They already can. Anyone can.
| | make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
|
And once they get used to the platform, they will see how remarkably easy it
is to set up an account and start buying and selling.
| | This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
|
The primary reason children aren't allowed on here is that they cannot make
legally binding contracts.
The secondary reason is that making the site child-friendly and policing the
interactions between children and strangers on the internet would require more
resources from BrickLink. And seriously, do you really trust BrickLink at this
point to be capable of doing that effectively?
| | Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
|
There's no reason why she can't use your account to create her wanted
list with your supervision. I really don't think a change from the site
is necessary or desirable on this issue.
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | Heartbricker | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
The United States has very strict laws regarding content that is shared online
with children, this will complicate BL's legal compliance and if those regulations
are broken because a member on the forum posts an inappropriate comment or publishes
a moc that may be considered violent or inappropriate for kids and each offense
of those regulations carries a steep penalty.
This will make Bricklink's overhead costs much higher and drain resources
from the marketplace.
Nice idea but implementing it doesn't seem realistic or beneficial to a marketplace
platform.
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 15:32 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
I kinda like the idea! With well thought out contingencies, that is.
Maybe the account profiles could be denoted as ‘junior’ in some form, with site
limitations attached: contact, the forum and purchases come to mind.
The idea has merit, if worked out properly. After all, it is a toy the site is
centered around. It might question the acronym AFOL as applied here on BL, though.
It’s something to ponder, IMHO.
-Cory
|
|
|
| | | | | |
| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | May 5, 2020 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: Junior Accounts? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
|
| In Suggestions, brickskipper writes:
| | Hi,
According to BL's TOS you must be of legal age or 18 at least to register.
That is completely understandable from the buying/selling point of view.
But what about a junior account without the privileges to buy or sell?
Kids could browse the catalog, make wanted lists - maybe "publish" them or somehow
share them with "proper" users (e.g. parents) and get used to the platform.
This would lead younger users to BL without being "illegal" and without the chance
to make "bogus" orders or other interference with the "business" on this site.
Just an idea as my daughter is building a lot of stuff in Studio and would like
to create her own wanted lists in BL and is generally interested in this site.
Jan
|
It is wonderful that your daughter has a growing lego hobby and that she is interested
in Bricklink. Instead of her having her own account, you can help her with wanted
lists and purchases through your account. Sharing your lego hobbies is great
to bond with your child, and you will enjoy being a super cool parent.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Germany, Schleswig-Holstein
Canada, Quebec
USA, Oregon
Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
