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 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Mar 31, 2020 10:46
 Subject: Is there a plan to resurrect special assemlie
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runner.caller (2640)

Location:  USA, South Dakota
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Any plan to resurrect special assemblies?

I came across a mostly complete

 
Set No: 76031  Name: The Hulk Buster Smash
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76031-1 (Inv) The Hulk Buster Smash
224 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Book, 2015
Sets: Super Heroes: Avengers Age of Ultron

I didn't want to break the hulkbuster down so I decided I'd list him
on another site and oh boy...
Apparently said site has a new policy where buyers can request a cancellation
in the first hour.

Didn't see that message request and printed a label while I was in paypal
printing 10 other labels for bricklink.

Apparently, the action of printing a label automatically denies a buyer's
cancellation request.
Which is silly as I had no problem refunding since I hadn't shipped.

The other site would not let me cancel and refund through them. I got in contact
with CS and they said I had to refund through the paypal transaction since "I
denied the original request".
Then if I gave CS the paypal transaction, they would give me credit for the fees,
but I'm not holding my breath. I'm guessing they'll credit back the
final value fee, but I'm definitely out on the papal fees and the jury's
out on the sales tax.

Funny how THEY charge the buyer sales tax, and then when YOU give a full refund,
the sales tax portion gets refunded out of YOUR balance!?

Another funny thing is that paypal adds the sales tax that ebay collects to the
total and charges you 2.9% on that total. So you're paying a percent fee
on a percent tax collected by another entity..

I personally don't feel there should be sales tax on used items.

These days, that other site is about only good for buying and sorting out high
quality pcs to relist on this site.

So if special assemblies are a hassle with inventories, can we list partial components
of sets as "custom items"?
 
 Author: mjwest83 View Messages Posted By mjwest83
 Posted: Mar 31, 2020 16:17
 Subject: Re: Is there a plan to resurrect special assemlie
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  So if special assemblies are a hassle with inventories, can we list partial components
of sets as "custom items"?

Listing it as a custom item is a great way for it to never be found.

I recommend listing it as an imcomplete set. That's really your only chance
for people to find it until Special Assemblies become active again.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 31, 2020 16:41
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  Any plan to resurrect special assemblies?

  So if special assemblies are a hassle with inventories

The difficulties with inventories are indeed the primary reason this category
has not been expanded. And also the difficulty with categorizing SA items.

The inventory difficulties, as I understand them, are threefold:

1. Alternate parts cannot be added to their inventories (here, again, part variants
cause problems).

2. Changes to main inventories must result in changes to SA inventories.

3. Verifying inventories must be done manually by carefully going over the assembly
in set instructions. This is time-consuming work and, multiplied by 15,000+
sets (each with multiple special assemblies), the work would likely take many
years to accomplish properly.

Away from inventories, there are also catalog problems:

1. SA is an experimental category. As such, no plans for permanence were ever
established. Thus no plans for deciding what should be included exist, nor any
policies on how to define the proper construction of an individual assembly.

2. The system is not set up to categorize special assemblies. Some categorization
is needed because this is a section that would, over time, rival that of the
Parts section.

I'm not personally against SAs, even though these catalog entries are created/provided
exclusively for the purpose of commerce (as opposed to being included as part
of the larger cataloging of LEGO products that BrickLink does). But we definitely
need to understand how to best handle them before adding a bunch more.

The easiest thing to do here would be to remove inventories from SAs. I would
also prefer to see them moved out of Parts because their inclusion distorts the
actual number of LEGO parts released (as do some other things in the Parts item
type).

So my knee-jerk reaction is that if we included them as Gear and did not inventory
or categorize them extensively (beyond, for example, figure, building, vehicle,
etc.), then there's little reason not to add as many as people desire to
buy or sell.