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 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Feb 5, 2020 12:31
 Subject: Shadow Trooper
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Hygrotus (869)

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Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

(OK I understand we can see them only from the front as they never retreat when
they attack so you can't see their back )

Interesting in our catalog torso is showed without long line.
 
Part No: 973pb0444c01  Name: Torso SW Armor Shadow Trooper Pattern / Black Arms / Black Hands
* 
973pb0444c01 (Inv) Torso SW Armor Shadow Trooper Pattern / Black Arms / Black Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
Marked for Deletion

According to the information which I found here
http://minifigs.nl/swminifigs/mfnl-shadow-ms.html
one with long line could be from magnet set from 2009.
 
Gear No: 852715  Name: Magnet Set, Minifigures SW (3) - Darth Vader, Snowtrooper, Shadow Trooper - with 2 x 4 Brick Bases blister pack
* 
852715 (Inv) Magnet Set, Minifigures SW (3) - Darth Vader, Snowtrooper, Shadow Trooper - with 2 x 4 Brick Bases blister pack
Gear: Magnet: Star Wars

so from sets which were issued earlier 2007 and 2008 could be one with short
line
My with short line is from set
 
Set No: 7667  Name: Imperial Dropship
* 
7667-1 (Inv) Imperial Dropship
65 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends

I have also two in my collection with long line but bought them years ago loose
without sets.

I submitted both as new as in this case sw0166 should be marked for deletion
as we don't know which one is currently sell under this entry.
 
Minifig No: sw0166a  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper - Short Line on Back
* 
sw0166a (Inv) Imperial Shadow Trooper - Short Line on Back
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
 
Minifig No: sw0166b  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper - Long Line on Back
* 
sw0166b (Inv) Imperial Shadow Trooper - Long Line on Back
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
 
 Author: Quba View Messages Posted By Quba
 Posted: Feb 5, 2020 12:33
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Dobry jesteś!
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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  Dobry jesteś!

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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Feb 5, 2020 14:04
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  
 
Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

People noticed...

With respect to you personally Marek, for myself and let’s say a group
of Lego Star Wars Collectors that collaborate, we’ve stopped attempts to correct
or add to the BL catalog some years back, when our continued efforts were rejected
or dismissed out of hand, by those placed into those positions at the time, that
could do just that without consideration.

There’s more than a few corrections needed to the Stars Wars portion of the BL
catalog. It’s too bad, such poor judgement in personnel had been used in the
past. Now, some in the know (through painstaking research) that had once cared,
don’t.

That’s all that I would like to say, but should not! While simultaneously
disavowing that which I would like to say, and shouldn't
- How’s that
for equivocating

On a serious note, good job, Marek! Now to the next, there’s plenty You are
invaluable to the current catalog team, IMHO of course.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Feb 5, 2020 14:14
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  
 
Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

People noticed...

With respect to you personally Marek, for myself and let’s say a group
of Lego Star Wars Collectors that collaborate, we’ve stopped attempts to correct
or add to the BL catalog some years back, when our continued efforts were rejected
or dismissed out of hand, by those placed into those positions at the time, that
could do just that without consideration.

There’s more than a few corrections needed to the Stars Wars portion of the BL
catalog. It’s too bad, such poor judgement in personnel had been used in the
past. Now, some in the know (through painstaking research) that had once cared,
don’t.

That’s all that I would like to say, but should not! While simultaneously
disavowing that which I would like to say, and shouldn't
- How’s that
for equivocating

On a serious note, good job, Marek! Now to the next, there’s plenty You are
invaluable to the current catalog team, IMHO of course.

Thank you

Some of them ar know just not yet distinguished and they are here
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2488
under paragraph
Known Print Variants Not Distinguished
some examples
 
Part No: 30408px3  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Stormtrooper, AT-AT Driver Pattern
* 
30408px3 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Stormtrooper, AT-AT Driver Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
 
Part No: 973pb0117  Name: Torso SW Armor Clone Trooper Pattern
* 
973pb0117 Torso SW Armor Clone Trooper Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
 
Part No: 973ps7  Name: Torso SW Darth Vader Pattern
* 
973ps7 Torso SW Darth Vader Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
 
Part No: 973ps0  Name: Torso SW Rebel A-wing Pilot Pattern
* 
973ps0 Torso SW Rebel A-wing Pilot Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
there are notes about them in the catalog
but in this case there wasn't even a note about it.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  
 
Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

People noticed...

With respect to you personally Marek, for myself and let’s say a group
of Lego Star Wars Collectors that collaborate, we’ve stopped attempts to correct
or add to the BL catalog some years back, when our continued efforts were rejected
or dismissed out of hand, by those placed into those positions at the time, that
could do just that without consideration.

There’s more than a few corrections needed to the Stars Wars portion of the BL
catalog. It’s too bad, such poor judgement in personnel had been used in the
past. Now, some in the know (through painstaking research) that had once cared,
don’t.

That’s all that I would like to say, but should not! While simultaneously
disavowing that which I would like to say, and shouldn't
- How’s that
for equivocating

On a serious note, good job, Marek! Now to the next, there’s plenty You are
invaluable to the current catalog team, IMHO of course.

Thank you

Some of them ar know just not yet distinguished and they are here
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2488
under paragraph
Known Print Variants Not Distinguished
some examples
 
Part No: 30408px3  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Stormtrooper, AT-AT Driver Pattern
* 
30408px3 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet SW Stormtrooper, AT-AT Driver Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
 
Part No: 973pb0117  Name: Torso SW Armor Clone Trooper Pattern
* 
973pb0117 Torso SW Armor Clone Trooper Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
 
Part No: 973ps7  Name: Torso SW Darth Vader Pattern
* 
973ps7 Torso SW Darth Vader Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
 
Part No: 973ps0  Name: Torso SW Rebel A-wing Pilot Pattern
* 
973ps0 Torso SW Rebel A-wing Pilot Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Torso
there are notes about them in the catalog
but in this case there wasn't even a note about it.

Interesting choices to start with, Marek!

Nonetheless, as to your first example: the full triangle is the anomaly. It was
initially intended as full triangle but as production produced a flawed triangle,
it was quickly corrected (wrongly in some minds) to the commonly seen trapezoid
shape. So, what’s the norm? I couldn’t say, it’s a matter of perspective. However,
the quantity of fully 'faulty' triangle produced, is far less than that
of the corrected trapezoid version.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 5, 2020 17:58
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  
 
Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

People noticed...

With respect to you personally Marek, for myself and let’s say a group
of Lego Star Wars Collectors that collaborate, we’ve stopped attempts to correct
or add to the BL catalog some years back, when our continued efforts were rejected
or dismissed out of hand, by those placed into those positions at the time, that
could do just that without consideration.

There’s more than a few corrections needed to the Stars Wars portion of the BL
catalog. It’s too bad, such poor judgement in personnel had been used in the
past. Now, some in the know (through painstaking research) that had once cared,
don’t.

That’s all that I would like to say, but should not! While simultaneously
disavowing that which I would like to say, and shouldn't
- How’s that
for equivocating

On a serious note, good job, Marek! Now to the next, there’s plenty You are
invaluable to the current catalog team, IMHO of course.

If you know that the current catalog admins are open to investigating and adding
these minifigs and you have knowledge of other minifigs that need to be corrected,
would you be willing to re-share that information with the current admins so
that the catalog can be more accurate?

Josh
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Catalog, mhortar writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  
 
Minifig No: sw0166  Name: Imperial Shadow Trooper
* 
sw0166 Imperial Shadow Trooper
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Legends
Marked for Deletion
Interesting, more than ten years and almost nobody noticed it.

People noticed...

With respect to you personally Marek, for myself and let’s say a group
of Lego Star Wars Collectors that collaborate, we’ve stopped attempts to correct
or add to the BL catalog some years back, when our continued efforts were rejected
or dismissed out of hand, by those placed into those positions at the time, that
could do just that without consideration.

There’s more than a few corrections needed to the Stars Wars portion of the BL
catalog. It’s too bad, such poor judgement in personnel had been used in the
past. Now, some in the know (through painstaking research) that had once cared,
don’t.

That’s all that I would like to say, but should not! While simultaneously
disavowing that which I would like to say, and shouldn't
- How’s that
for equivocating

On a serious note, good job, Marek! Now to the next, there’s plenty You are
invaluable to the current catalog team, IMHO of course.

If you know that the current catalog admins are open to investigating and adding
these minifigs and you have knowledge of other minifigs that need to be corrected,
would you be willing to re-share that information with the current admins so
that the catalog can be more accurate?

Sure, Josh, I could and would for the current admin. In my book they are the
best we've seen here. Truly gifted and dedicated people, with strong guidance
from Russell.

But let me ask you, why is it needed? Given that TLG are in possession of the
site and it's catalog's information. They can spin whatever yarn they'd
like. In other words, get it straight from the horse's mouth. It's a
gift for you purest, if played right.