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| | | Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 09:02 | | Subject: | 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 176 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
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| | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 09:06 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Unless you can provide proof, photo's etc of sealed bags they won't accept
that it wasn't altered, I understand why, no criticism.
I had the same issue with some heads that in theory couldn't possibly come
from a particular set, I know they did but I had no proof sadly.
In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
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| | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 09:41 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
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Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock 
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.
Some example
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
* | | 42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar |
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 09:59 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
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Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.
Some example
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
* | | 42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar |
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set
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Well, even if I have proof, maybe it is so rare that it's not worth complicating
the catalog for.
I parted out 2 copies of a lot of sets. Strangely, I have 4, and there is no
set in my list that contains 2. That means that either two different sets
with 1 each must have had them (unlikely) or they appeared in:
(17 per set in total)
and/or
(3 per set in total)
...alongside the new type. It looks like they really just mixed in some old stock,
probably in the Flintstones one.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 12:55 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
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LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.
LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets 
Maxx
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With "X" bottom in Light Bluish Gray in some 2019 sets. I mixed together many
sets so unfortunately, I can't trace which one it's from. But it's
definitely a set from this year. According to the catalog, the part died out
in 2014.
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Such things happen, some factory dig to old stock
but as Stuart9 said you need to have undoubtful proove.
Some example
Used in 1980-1991 tne gap an agin reappear between 2004-2017
and recent one
* | | 42445 Bar 12L with 1 x 2 Plate End Solid Studs and 1 x 1 Round Plate End
Parts: Bar |
2002-2013 and the suddenly in one 2019 set
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Well, even if I have proof, maybe it is so rare that it's not worth complicating
the catalog for.
I parted out 2 copies of a lot of sets. Strangely, I have 4, and there is no
set in my list that contains 2. That means that either two different sets
with 1 each must have had them (unlikely) or they appeared in:
(17 per set in total)
and/or
(3 per set in total)
...alongside the new type. It looks like they really just mixed in some old stock,
probably in the Flintstones one.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 13:07 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
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LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.
LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets
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I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
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LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.
LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets
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I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
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I think here is answer for your question. I remember problems with arch mold
in this set
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/78045-issues-with-window-on-set-79003-an-unexpected-gathering-help/
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 17:27 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
Oh, very interesting indeed. Thank you.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 17:25 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
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LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.
LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets
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I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
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LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 17:33 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
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| | I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
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LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.
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Well, apparently, from the Eurobricks’ topic Hygrotus linked to, it depends whether
you get a friendly person from LEGO customer services, especially if you’re one
of the first to encounter the issue.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nathan123 | | Posted: | Nov 23, 2019 18:15 | | Subject: | Re: 4150 not dead? | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | That's funny. I just encountered 4 of these:
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LEGO just uses everything they have, maybe they dug up an old container with
the X bottom and mixed them in with the newer parts.
LEGO never throws anything away, this is how we got old Maersk blue 3001old in
modern sets
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I wonder though: what happens when the variants aren’t functionnally equivalent?
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LEGO doesn’t really care, a brick is a brick is a brick.
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Except for 3001specials. They are a brick's brick and an example for all
the other bricks to follow.
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