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 Author: neoleg View Messages Posted By neoleg
 Posted: Aug 28, 2019 16:43
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6273-1
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neoleg (21)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change 1 Part Brown {4738a Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back to 4738b Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4739a Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge to 4739b Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4738ac01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge (4738a / 4739a) to 4738bc01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge (4738b / 4739b)} (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
My set actually contains the old style (B) treasure chest with no back slots and thin hinge. Confirmed by actual inventory and product photos on box/instructions. (Are there alternate versions?)
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Sep 2, 2019 15:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6273-1
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In Inventories Requests, neoleg writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change 1 Part Brown {4738a Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back to 4738b Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4739a Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge to 4739b Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4738ac01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge (4738a / 4739a) to 4738bc01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge (4738b / 4739b)} (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
My set actually contains the old style (B) treasure chest with no back slots and thin hinge. Confirmed by actual inventory and product photos on box/instructions. (Are there alternate versions?)

Hi,

I am very sure that this set came with the "a" variant for two reasons:

1. Set 6273 was produced between 1991 and 1993. Set 6260 was produced between
1989 and 1991 and that set already had the "a" variant (link below).
2. A few years ago, the user 1977_mauro changed the inventory of 6273 and many
other old sets based on sealed set contents (he added extra parts or string lenghts,
for example). As we can see, he has not changed the treasure chest in the inventory
of set 6273 but he has changed it in other inventories. I am sure he would have
also changed it here if he had found the "b" type in his copy.

All in all, the "a" type should stay here but the "b" type can be added as an
alternate if you confirm that you have found it in a sealed set.

Regards,
Jonas

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 Author: neoleg View Messages Posted By neoleg
 Posted: Sep 6, 2019 02:44
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6273-1
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In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
  In Inventories Requests, neoleg writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6273  Name: Rock Island Refuge
* 
6273-1 (Inv) Rock Island Refuge
349 Parts, 7 Minifigures, 1991
Sets: Pirates: Pirates I

* Change 1 Part Brown {4738a Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back to 4738b Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4739a Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge to 4739b Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge}
* Change 1 Part Brown {4738ac01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thick Hinge (4738a / 4739a) to 4738bc01 Container, Treasure Chest Bottom - No Slots in Back with Same Color Container, Treasure Chest Lid - Thin Hinge (4738b / 4739b)} (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
My set actually contains the old style (B) treasure chest with no back slots and thin hinge. Confirmed by actual inventory and product photos on box/instructions. (Are there alternate versions?)

Hi,

I am very sure that this set came with the "a" variant for two reasons:

1. Set 6273 was produced between 1991 and 1993. Set 6260 was produced between
1989 and 1991 and that set already had the "a" variant (link below).
2. A few years ago, the user 1977_mauro changed the inventory of 6273 and many
other old sets based on sealed set contents (he added extra parts or string lenghts,
for example). As we can see, he has not changed the treasure chest in the inventory
of set 6273 but he has changed it in other inventories. I am sure he would have
also changed it here if he had found the "b" type in his copy.

All in all, the "a" type should stay here but the "b" type can be added as an
alternate if you confirm that you have found it in a sealed set.

Regards,
Jonas

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=5646959

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?nID=72474&nDate=12%2F2%2F2012&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&chgUserID=148415&viewDate=Y
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1116713
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6273-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1


Hello,

thank you very much for your reply. This is very interesting!

I own the entire collection for Pirates I up until 1991 and I got them right
when they came out (all new from sealed boxes). All treasure chests are there
and none of them is the A-type, all are the old B-Type (including set 6260 from
1989).
The picture on the box also shows the B-type (see attachment).

So I guess there really must be alternates for all of these sets.

Kind regards
 
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Sep 12, 2019 11:36
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6273-1
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Hello,

sorry for my late reply.

In Inventories Requests, neoleg writes:
  I own the entire collection for Pirates I up until 1991 and I got them right
when they came out (all new from sealed boxes). All treasure chests are there
and none of them is the A-type, all are the old B-Type (including set 6260 from
1989).

  So I guess there really must be alternates for all of these sets.

All other sets from 1989-1991 already have 4738b in their inventories. 6273 is
the first set which has 4738a as regular part. But thanks to your request, we
now know that some (most likely the very early) copies of 6273 still came with
4738b. So you can submit a new request:
- Add 4738b as regular item
- Move 4738a to alternate
- Add the next unused Match ID to both entries

If you have time and want to help a little bit more, it would be great if you
could check your pirates sets for undetermined parts or other part variants.
For example, the boat mast parts in 6274 or the palm trunks in a few sets are
still undetermined.


  The picture on the box also shows the B-type (see attachment).

Box photos are usually not a good source for information about part variants.
They are produced weeks or months before set production starts and may show variants
which are never included in any copy of the set.

Regards,
Jonas