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| | | Author: | JusTiCe8  | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 06:08 | | Subject: | 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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| | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 06:11 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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Length and width are measured in studs, but height is measured in brick heights.
These slopes have the same height as 3 bricks stacked on top of each other.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 06:27 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
| | In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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Length and width are measured in studs, but height is measured in brick heights.
These slopes have the same height as 3 bricks stacked on top of each other.
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And that is why exactly many submitters make that mistake when submitting measurements
of part to the catalog.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | JusTiCe8 | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 08:54 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thank you both for the heads up.
Still, parts have "Size: 2 x 1 x 3 in studs"
This is the issue, when many units are used, they have to be explicitly written
to avoid such confusion, as history tells us, help page on BL are not enough.
I suggest to add a note on each single page of inventory for parts (done
by front "code" obviously, default design for parts for instance) about the units
used. Kind of studs from width/length, brick height for height.
In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
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Length and width are measured in studs, but height is measured in brick heights.
These slopes have the same height as 3 bricks stacked on top of each other.
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And that is why exactly many submitters make that mistake when submitting measurements
of part to the catalog.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 09:02 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Thank you both for the heads up.
Still, parts have "Size: 2 x 1 x 3 in studs"
This is the issue, when many units are used, they have to be explicitly written
to avoid such confusion, as history tells us, help page on BL are not enough.
I suggest to add a note on each single page of inventory for parts (done
by front "code" obviously, default design for parts for instance) about the units
used. Kind of studs from width/length, brick height for height.
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Or that the size be formatted as “2 x 1 x 3 (studs x studs x bricks)” or, better,
“2 studs x 1 stud x 3 bricks.”
And these suggestions have been made almost every time a remark such as yours
was made but nothing changed 
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| | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 06:28 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261
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| | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2019 12:55 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=261
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This thread is a useful reminder that exemplifies that measurement values without
units creates confusion. I work as a scientist in my day life, and talking about
measurements without units causes same problems.
To the OP, the slope 3684 is 3 bricks tall, which is the same as 9 plates tall
(a brick is 3 plates tall), or 18 Lego units tall (a plate is 2 Lego units).
A good relation measurement is 2x2 brick width is same as 5 plates height, which
means that a 1x1 brick width is 2.5 plates height, therefore the 3684 slope which
is 3 bricks tall = 9 plates height = 4.8 stud widths (12/2.5=3.6). So as you
can see, it makes no sense in referring to this slope as 3.6 stud heights. It's
very confusing. That being said, having units in the dimensions handy, will prevent
further confusions.
Knowing dimensions is very practical when SNOT building, where the orientation
of bricks is placed sideways and combination of upright and sideway bricks.
Here is a useful converter: http://www.studs.sariel.pl
Miro
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| | | | | Author: | DamoB | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2019 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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I used to think this until I found Tom Alphin's lego ruler and sorting tool:
http://tomalphin.com/2014/02/lego-ruler-and-sorting-tool.html
One stud is 8mm wide but a plate is 3.2mm high, therefore the size of a 1x1 brick
is 8mm x 8mm x 9.8mm. I have Tom's guide printed and laminated and reckon
that it has saved me a load of time while sorting!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2019 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: 4460 a/b: wrong height | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WrefordBrown writes:
| | In Catalog, JusTiCe8 writes:
| | Hi,
Looks like this parts:
is taller than described as it is 4 studs high instead of 3 unless there is a
way to measure height I don't know.
Fortunately, there is no 3 studs high slope and I believe any MOCers using the
part just call it by its name and there would be no issue when building.
Strangely, part and all its variants looks like to be also 4 studs
high and not 3 (last pic clearly shows the same aspect ratio as 4460).
By the way 3684 is not marked for deletion yet.
Where was the issue ? "It's not you it's us" or just me ?
Thanks.
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I used to think this until I found Tom Alphin's lego ruler and sorting tool:
http://tomalphin.com/2014/02/lego-ruler-and-sorting-tool.html
One stud is 8mm wide but a plate is 3.2mm high, therefore the size of a 1x1 brick
is 8mm x 8mm x 9.8mm. I have Tom's guide printed and laminated and reckon
that it has saved me a load of time while sorting!
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Very handy. Thanks for sharing.
Miro
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