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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 01:32 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 01:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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| | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 02:36 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 02:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 02:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
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I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 03:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
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Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 04:40 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
|
The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
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Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
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It has been long time that I am thinking if these should be extra or regular
and still don't know what is better. But no problem if you put them in extra.
This set in new condition is so rare but if I see another one in the market,
I would try to check its content.
Paul,
your score level was
three days ago. Then it became
and then I saw it at the rare only-"American&Canadian&French" set
Mine is for now settled at the tipping wagon
P.S. warning: the content of this message has an expiry date, i.e. it won't
be valid in close future.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | Jun 29, 2019 19:02 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
|
Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
|
I have 2 of this set, one purchased while we were in Europe and another that
was purchased in 1994 at a ToysRUs in Texas. Neither had 12v conducting rails.
If this change request were to be presented at Rebrickable, we could handle it
with an alternate inventory version, giving members the option of choosing the
one that fits their actual set. Since this is not the case at BrickLink, adding
these rails as extras creates a problem for anyone in the future selling this
as a New Complete Set. Buyers would expect to receive the 12v rails, even though
the actual set may have been part of the original production run that did not
include them.
In other situations similar to this, BrickLink has included notes stating the
differences between early and later production runs. Perhaps a note stating
"Later production runs of this set included 4 12v conducting rails." would be
sufficient.
Thea
Always An Adventure!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 2, 2019 04:04 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
|
Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
|
I have 2 of this set, one purchased while we were in Europe and another that
was purchased in 1994 at a ToysRUs in Texas. Neither had 12v conducting rails.
If this change request were to be presented at Rebrickable, we could handle it
with an alternate inventory version, giving members the option of choosing the
one that fits their actual set. Since this is not the case at BrickLink, adding
these rails as extras creates a problem for anyone in the future selling this
as a New Complete Set. Buyers would expect to receive the 12v rails, even though
the actual set may have been part of the original production run that did not
include them.
In other situations similar to this, BrickLink has included notes stating the
differences between early and later production runs. Perhaps a note stating
"Later production runs of this set included 4 12v conducting rails." would be
sufficient.
Thea
Always An Adventure!
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Hi Thea,
Thanks for your input. This set was first released for few countries such as
Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden but in summer 1981, 12v sets enterred
in UK, Italy and France. It is likely that TLG added 4 straight conducting rails
in later releases. One way to check this is this part in red
They are used for this stickered assembly:
[p=BA17pb02]
It would be nice if you check this part in your copies. Are they 3040 or 3040a.
(I checked mine last year using a knife. I pealed off the sticker a little bit
and bend the two red slopes to see their bottoms. No damage was done to stickers.)
It is possible that your copies are the early releases.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jul 12, 2019 23:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
|
Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
|
I am not convinced about this change request, either, but if we do end up accepting
it, they will most likely need to be added as Extra Items with an accompanying
Inventory Note.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jul 13, 2019 17:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
|
The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
|
I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
|
This is the only MISB set I have seen. I contacted the seller and asked him more
photos. He didn't know about Lego much and didn't have other train-related
staff. He was certainly not a Lego dealer, that I am sure.
We would never know if ALL copies contained these extra conducting rails.
The problem is that I cannot trust used lots at all as conducting rails are so
common and people have them. However, I attach a used lot containing only 4.5V
sets sold on Ebay in US where 12v train were not sold. We see 3 straight conducting
rails and there may be one extra (or maybe lost?).
I do have another set of photos of an NIB copy but the quality is bad and we
cannot see much.
|
I also point two things:
1) how did the seller know he had to add 4 extra conducting rails but they are
included in peeron, bricklink,...? why did he do that? I remember he did not
claim the set was complete. In the advertisement, he mentioned something like
"all bags are sealed. Not sure if complete"
2) The conducting rails have contact holes. These are produced between 1980-87.
But they came in two versions. The first version didn't have plastic reinforcements
below the notches (1980-84) but since 1985 they added extra plastic (to all types,
including straight, curved, cross, points,...). See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1078534
In the photos we can see two conducting rails don't have reinforcements (the
other two are not visible). This is also why I trusted them.
|
Ok. Maybe you are right about these. But if we add these I think they should
be added as extra parts and not regular parts. They are not shown anywhere on
the box art or instructions. That would fit the definition of extra parts.
|
I am not convinced about this change request, either, but if we do end up accepting
it, they will most likely need to be added as Extra Items with an accompanying
Inventory Note.
Cheers,
Randy
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Hi Randy,
I admit this is a tricky one. I recall the baseplate of 7838. I had seen all
used copies (about 20 maybe) coming with the version that has dot prints
[p=3811p010]
But I saw in the photos of store Bluxe a NIB copy coming with
I asked him and he said he had never seen or had 3811p010 in his collection.
But I still couldn't trust. Then, I saw a second NIB again from France coming
with 3811p010. This time I believe it. I bought the copy and it came with a catalog
from 1986 but the set was advertised in catalogs 1982-5. So, I think TLG ran
out of 3811p010 and used 3811 for latest production.
The 12v series were first released in few countries: Germany, Switzerland, Belgium,
Netherlands and Scandinavian countries in 1980. I have very strong evidence that
some sets like 7730 and 7750 were only produced in 1980 and then TLG stopped
producing them as they had already enough in their warehouse/shops. However since
the summer 1981, the 12v series were introduced in Italy, France and UK too.
in 1980, only few 4.5v sets like 7720-1 were available in the market of these
countries. So they produced more of some not-well-sold sets like 7822 and It
seems they re-purposed this
set to be 12V as they were no 12v station between 1980-82. Also, they were a
second run of production of 7730 for these countries (together with Germany and
maybe Scandinavian countries) as the strong evidence shows that this train was
not produced anymore for the market of Netherlands/Belgium. So this inventory
change request is certainly possible, regardless of the evidence I provided.
Anyway, this inventory change request is not very important. In case you reject,
we may still be lucky and find in future another new copy in UK, France or Italy.
Cheers,
Reza
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2019 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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Earlier I wrote that I didn't remember my own set coming with conducting
rails. But I guess my memory was not perfect about this set that I got many years
ago. I was just cleaning up some drawers and at the bottom of one of them I found
some old notes that I thought I had lost.
In those notes I wrote some interesting and/or unexpected things I found in sealed
sets. One of those notes states that I found conducting rails in this set. So
I guess we now have another source of conducting rails in a NIB set.
Based on this I will accept the inventory change request, but as mentioned in
another post I will change the conducting rails to extras and I will also add
a note that these conducting rails did not come in all copies of the set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2019 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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Earlier I wrote that I didn't remember my own set coming with conducting
rails. But I guess my memory was not perfect about this set that I got many years
ago. I was just cleaning up some drawers and at the bottom of one of them I found
some old notes that I thought I had lost.
In those notes I wrote some interesting and/or unexpected things I found in sealed
sets. One of those notes states that I found conducting rails in this set. So
I guess we now have another source of conducting rails in a NIB set.
Based on this I will accept the inventory change request, but as mentioned in
another post I will change the conducting rails to extras and I will also add
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| | a note that these conducting rails did not come in all copies of the set.
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Do you still have your original copy? If so, could you please check if it comes
ith 3040 or 3040a red slope?
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