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| | | Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Jun 25, 2019 23:50 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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| | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 03:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 13:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Hi Paul,
No I didn't forget. There are so many inv. changes, catalog changes, adding
items,...that I have plans to submit, take photos, upload them to my PC, and
then, upload them on BL. The only way I can handle all these is to do them step
by step, as my time allows me.
This NIB copy that I purchased should be from 1988 since the box is the first
version (1986-8) and the straight conducting rails don't have holes and have
reinforcements under their notches (1988-90).
I have never seen light gray hinges with solid stud with this set. I even have
one used copy that I bought from the first owner and was an early release too.
The (light gray) hinges with hollow studs were produced since very early 1985
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=235359
So I think we should remove them from this set. If we find a reliable source
that they were used for this set, then they should come back, but I doubt.
The length of the wire in this set
is 76cm.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 12, 2019 09:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Hi Paul,
No I didn't forget. There are so many inv. changes, catalog changes, adding
items,...that I have plans to submit, take photos, upload them to my PC, and
then, upload them on BL. The only way I can handle all these is to do them step
by step, as my time allows me.
This NIB copy that I purchased should be from 1988 since the box is the first
version (1986-8) and the straight conducting rails don't have holes and have
reinforcements under their notches (1988-90).
I have never seen light gray hinges with solid stud with this set. I even have
one used copy that I bought from the first owner and was an early release too.
The (light gray) hinges with hollow studs were produced since very early 1985
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=235359
So I think we should remove them from this set. If we find a reliable source
that they were used for this set, then they should come back, but I doubt.
The length of the wire in this set
is 76cm.
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Sorry it took me a while to get back to this request. My own set was in a location
that was a bit inconvenient to reach. I was planning to reorganize a bit here
so was planning to use that opportunity to check my set. But it took longer than
I expected to finally get around to that.
I can confirm that my set has the 3002old and 3003old. Also the 3242c and 4081b.
I had already added 4081b in blue as alternate long ago. I guess at that time
I forgot to add it in red because someone else added it later. But my set has
4081b in both colors.
For the solid stud hinges it seems very likely that they never came in this set.
The only other sets with them in light gray are from 1983 and none of the sets
from 1985 have them in their inventories so it seems unlikely that they would
suddenly show up again in 1986. So I think they can be removed.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 27, 2019 15:29 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Aug 1, 2019 18:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2019 06:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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Randy,
For keeping early variant or removing them, there is no good solution but I have
my own philosophy 
We know the later variations of clips and hinges came in early 1985. I have checked
light gray hinges since long time ago and I am convinced that we should remove
them for this set. Well, if one day somebody gives an evidence, we can add them
back but I don't think this would happen.
I didn't request to remove thin-clips for this set (from 1986) because I
have not checked enough number of used/new copies in the American market. I don't
know if those copies of 7823 sold in USA were imported directly from Denmark
or were produced in USA. This is a complicated case. My doubts raised as I have
seen few neat copies of American 6393 (with American box in the market of USA)
coming with thin clips in most colors (there come with 6393 in four colors) As
I have seen few used copies of 6393 coming with rare thin clips, I believe they
were still available in 1987. Admin Russel removed thin-clips from 6393 in Nov.
2018
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6393-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
Once I have some more data, I come back to 6393. Unfortunately, I don't think
we find any new 6393, let alone an early release!
Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2019 16:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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Randy,
For keeping early variant or removing them, there is no good solution but I have
my own philosophy
We know the later variations of clips and hinges came in early 1985. I have checked
light gray hinges since long time ago and I am convinced that we should remove
them for this set. Well, if one day somebody gives an evidence, we can add them
back but I don't think this would happen.
I didn't request to remove thin-clips for this set (from 1986) because I
have not checked enough number of used/new copies in the American market. I don't
know if those copies of 7823 sold in USA were imported directly from Denmark
or were produced in USA. This is a complicated case. My doubts raised as I have
seen few neat copies of American 6393 (with American box in the market of USA)
coming with thin clips in most colors (there come with 6393 in four colors) As
I have seen few used copies of 6393 coming with rare thin clips, I believe they
were still available in 1987. Admin Russel removed thin-clips from 6393 in Nov.
2018
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6393-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
Once I have some more data, I come back to 6393. Unfortunately, I don't think
we find any new 6393, let alone an early release!
Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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There was no official market for 12v trains in the USA in the 1980s. Anyone
wanting a 12v train system in the USA had to import it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2019 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
|
Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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Randy,
For keeping early variant or removing them, there is no good solution but I have
my own philosophy
We know the later variations of clips and hinges came in early 1985. I have checked
light gray hinges since long time ago and I am convinced that we should remove
them for this set. Well, if one day somebody gives an evidence, we can add them
back but I don't think this would happen.
I didn't request to remove thin-clips for this set (from 1986) because I
have not checked enough number of used/new copies in the American market. I don't
know if those copies of 7823 sold in USA were imported directly from Denmark
or were produced in USA. This is a complicated case. My doubts raised as I have
seen few neat copies of American 6393 (with American box in the market of USA)
coming with thin clips in most colors (there come with 6393 in four colors) As
I have seen few used copies of 6393 coming with rare thin clips, I believe they
were still available in 1987. Admin Russel removed thin-clips from 6393 in Nov.
2018
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6393-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
Once I have some more data, I come back to 6393. Unfortunately, I don't think
we find any new 6393, let alone an early release!
Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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There was no official market for 12v trains in the USA in the 1980s. Anyone
wanting a 12v train system in the USA had to import it.
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Trains 7813, 7814, 7817, 7818, 7715, 7720, 7722 and other sets like this one
(7823), 7839 were sold in USA so people could buy them from shops or order them
via "shop at home"
https://images.brickset.com/library/Catalogues/c87sah.pdf
Yes, 7823 was available in USA and it was indeed a successful set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bb53904 | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2019 18:40 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Thea writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
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| | | | | | Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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There was no official market for 12v trains in the USA in the 1980s. Anyone
wanting a 12v train system in the USA had to import it.
|
Trains 7813, 7814, 7817, 7818, 7715, 7720, 7722 and other sets like this one
(7823), 7839 were sold in USA so people could buy them from shops or order them
via "shop at home"
https://images.brickset.com/library/Catalogues/c87sah.pdf
Yes, 7823 was available in USA and it was indeed a successful set.
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Thanks for that information. I did not realize that sets 7823 and 7839 with
the 12v metal track were made available through mail order.
I expected all of the other sets you mentioned would have been available in the
USA because they were intended for multi-use with push trains, battery, or 12v
systems (but did not contain 12v metal track).
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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Randy,
For keeping early variant or removing them, there is no good solution but I have
my own philosophy
We know the later variations of clips and hinges came in early 1985. I have checked
light gray hinges since long time ago and I am convinced that we should remove
them for this set. Well, if one day somebody gives an evidence, we can add them
back but I don't think this would happen.
I didn't request to remove thin-clips for this set (from 1986) because I
have not checked enough number of used/new copies in the American market. I don't
know if those copies of 7823 sold in USA were imported directly from Denmark
or were produced in USA. This is a complicated case. My doubts raised as I have
seen few neat copies of American 6393 (with American box in the market of USA)
coming with thin clips in most colors (there come with 6393 in four colors) As
I have seen few used copies of 6393 coming with rare thin clips, I believe they
were still available in 1987. Admin Russel removed thin-clips from 6393 in Nov.
2018
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6393-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
Once I have some more data, I come back to 6393. Unfortunately, I don't think
we find any new 6393, let alone an early release!
Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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I don't know if 4081a was ever included in this set, but if you look at the
instructions you'll see that they were at least used when the set was designed
because they are shown in the instructions. And if you build this set according
to the instructions with 4081b the thick rings will block the rear wheels of
the truck. Of course this does not prove that the set actually came with 4081b
and it is not the only set where 4081b was included even though it interferes
with the functionality of the set.
I'll leave the 4081a in the set for now, but we can get back to that once
you have had time to check more sets.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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We can remove the 3002 and 3003 from this inventory. They can always be added
as alternates if someone finds convincing evidence that they were included in
this set.
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