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 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 15, 2019 17:41
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I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: C0lsanders_ View Messages Posted By C0lsanders_
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:02
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Was it an older set?

In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:07
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Yep.

 
Set No: 6445  Name: Emergency Evac (Emergency Evacuation)
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6445-1 (Inv) Emergency Evac (Emergency Evacuation)
93 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Town: Res-Q



In Colors, C0lsanders_ writes:
  Was it an older set?

In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: iprice View Messages Posted By iprice
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:12
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  Yep.

 
Set No: 6445  Name: Emergency Evac (Emergency Evacuation)
* 
6445-1 (Inv) Emergency Evac (Emergency Evacuation)
93 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Town: Res-Q



In Colors, C0lsanders_ writes:
  Was it an older set?

In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy

I think I'd cry a river if that had ben an original Tantive IV!
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:11
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

You read the wrong sites

UVs don’t tan the plastic. UVs accelerate or make possible some chemical reactions
in the plastic.
Other things may accelerate the reactions. And the reactions also occur all
by themselves.

Some additives do react more easily or mode badly than others. That’s what happened
with the old bricks / old ABS.

And yes, UVs can also help “cure” the problem because it helps oxydation reactions,
which are also greatly helped by the presence of free oxygen, like when the parts
are soaking in peroxyde.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: May 15, 2019 18:36
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  UVs don’t tan the plastic. UVs accelerate or make possible some chemical reactions
in the plastic.
Other things may accelerate the reactions. And the reactions also occur all
by themselves.

Came here to say this.


so yeah. This.
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
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In Colors, Adjour writes:
  
  UVs don’t tan the plastic. UVs accelerate or make possible some chemical reactions
in the plastic.
Other things may accelerate the reactions. And the reactions also occur all
by themselves.

Came here to say this.


so yeah. This.

Came here to say this.

"This"



Sorry, just cracked me up. It's been a long week.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
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In Colors, MidwestBrick writes:
  In Colors, Adjour writes:
  
  UVs don’t tan the plastic. UVs accelerate or make possible some chemical reactions
in the plastic.
Other things may accelerate the reactions. And the reactions also occur all
by themselves.

Came here to say this.


so yeah. This.

Came here to say this.

"This"



Sorry, just cracked me up. It's been a long week.

haha, glad I could help.


I just have so many moments on this forum where I'm like "OH! OH! I FInaLLY
kNOW ThIS oNE" and then someone beats me to it and I'm sad.

I need to find LEGO people IRL I think. The people around me at work are over
it, lol
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Colors, Adjour writes:
  […]
  Sorry, just cracked me up. It's been a long week.

haha, glad I could help.


I just have so many moments on this forum where I'm like "OH! OH! I FInaLLY
kNOW ThIS oNE" and then someone beats me to it and I'm sad.

Sorry

I try to wait for others to answer but sometimes: https://www.xkcd.com/386/



  I need to find LEGO people IRL I think. The people around me at work are over
it, lol

Nah, it’s LEGO which’s above them
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 Author: connie View Messages Posted By connie
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The color white in the older sets is a warm white not a pure white. So yes sometimes
they look "tanish". I bought a collection from the 80's and early 90's
and that is the way the whites look even in sealed boxes. Most of the whites
I had to sell used since some people don't understand the color change and
were emailing me about it. They also tend to look dirty because they are darker,
especially on the stud tops when placed next to the new pure white color.

Connie



In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: connie View Messages Posted By connie
 Posted: May 16, 2019 13:34
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Also I found that the yellow, red and blue bricks tend to be darker and not as
shiny.

Connie




In Colors, connie writes:
  The color white in the older sets is a warm white not a pure white. So yes sometimes
they look "tanish". I bought a collection from the 80's and early 90's
and that is the way the whites look even in sealed boxes. Most of the whites
I had to sell used since some people don't understand the color change and
were emailing me about it. They also tend to look dirty because they are darker,
especially on the stud tops when placed next to the new pure white color.

Connie



In Colors, randyf writes:
  I just opened my first sealed set ever where every part that is supposed to be
white looks almost exactly like a perfect match for tan or slightly lighter.
It is quite weird to be expecting white parts and seeing everything look tan.
You would never know these parts were ever white by looking at them since the
color is even on all surfaces of every part. Because the set was sealed, it could
not be UV damage due to sunlight as so many sites claim, so some other chemical
process occurs. There must be some sort of breakdown of some additive in the
ABS due to storage conditions of the set (maybe higher temperatures). I don't
know what it is, but I am less than happy with my purchase now.

Cheers,
Randy