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 Author: TorontoLego View Messages Posted By TorontoLego
 Posted: May 13, 2019 04:37
 Subject: Does part 6057 (Short Rigging) need a variant
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The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 13, 2019 07:26
 Subject: Re: Does part 6057 (Short Rigging) need a variant
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Part No: 6057  Name: Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
* 
6057 Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
Parts: Boat

In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!

Do you know which sets they come from?

It would be interesting to check if something changed in their uses, mathematically
speaking.
 Author: TorontoLego View Messages Posted By TorontoLego
 Posted: May 13, 2019 13:38
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I don't know.

Do you have black ones and brown ones? Can you check to see if this holds true
for at least all the black ones?

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  
 
Part No: 6057  Name: Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
* 
6057 Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
Parts: Boat

In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!

Do you know which sets they come from?

It would be interesting to check if something changed in their uses, mathematically
speaking.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 13, 2019 14:12
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In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  I don't know.

Do you have black ones and brown ones? Can you check to see if this holds true
for at least all the black ones?

Nope. I have none. Dark Ages.

If the sets that use them are using them differently, — that is, if they aren’t
substitutable —, the variant would really be necessary. It wouldn’t be the first
time TLG thought better about making a part “in System,” like
 
Part No: 4081  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment (Undetermined Type)
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4081 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Marked for Deletion

or
 
Part No: 4623  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Arm Up (Undetermined Type)
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4623 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Arm Up (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified

I wanted to look at the building instructions to look for a mathematical necessity
for the change, but there are some 14 sets that use them, so knowing from which
sets they came from would have narrowed the search.


On the other hand, another possibility simply is that some are not LEGO
 Author: 1974 View Messages Posted By 1974
 Posted: May 14, 2019 13:37
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Same thing with the large brown riggings

In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: May 15, 2019 06:39
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In Catalog, 1974 writes:
  Same thing with the large brown riggings

In Catalog, TorontoLego writes:
  The four black ones and one brown one are about a plates width shorter. I can't
be the first one to notice this!

 
Part No: 2541  Name: Boat, Mast Rigging Long 27 x 5
* 
2541 Boat, Mast Rigging Long 27 x 5
Parts: Boat
This one has a note from some time (I think it is a quite old note) and it is
on this list here
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2488

So for now the only thing which can be done here is do the same for this one
 
Part No: 6057  Name: Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
* 
6057 Boat, Mast Rigging Short 16 x 5
Parts: Boat
and also I will add it to the list.

As for now splitting old parts mold variants is on hold and as you can see this
list of mold variants not distinguished in the catalog is quite a long.