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 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 3, 2019 13:20
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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palenjo (157)

Location:  Belgium, Flemish Brabant
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
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310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
183 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 2 Part 3009pb039 Blue Brick 1 x 6 with White 'TRANSPORT' Stencil Pattern (Alternate)
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: May 4, 2019 01:33
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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paulvdb (6377)

Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
* 
310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
183 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 2 Part 3009pb039 Blue Brick 1 x 6 with White 'TRANSPORT' Stencil Pattern (Alternate)

Could you please let me know what your source is for making this request?

Thanks,
Paul
 Author: palenjo View Messages Posted By palenjo
 Posted: May 4, 2019 11:03
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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palenjo (157)

Location:  Belgium, Flemish Brabant
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Hi Paul!
I don't have any source for this suggestion. So you won't approve it.
But it's so frustrating. I order brick with solid pattern, and receive stencil
pattern, invariably. It's so difficult to understand how you can be so sure
that set 310 could not contain the brick with stencil pattern instead of solid
pattern? They are so similar and most sellers on BL don't know the difference.
How can you be sure that those people in the factory in the 1960s who amassed
the parts to put in the set did not sometimes put in the brick with stencil pattern?

My life would be more happy if the stencil pattern would be listed as alternate
part. If it's listed as alternate who would be hurt by this? These inventory
lists on BL determine so much here on BL, and I would hope that BL administrators
could consider the possibility. And this is also the case for other parts, for
example 1x4 brick car grilles, where the sellers here on BL do the same thing.
They send surface print when I order embossed print, and when I order embossed
print, they send surface print.
I'm getting so tired of this. Lego is supposed to be fun. Why can't the
administrators on BL list more alternates in the inventory lists? For example
if a brick is listed as surface print, cannot the embossed print always be listed
as alternate, and vice versa?

Cheers
Johan


In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 310  Name: Motorized Truck Set
* 
310-1 (Inv) Motorized Truck Set
183 Parts, 1969
Sets: Samsonite: Model Maker: Traffic

* Add 2 Part 3009pb039 Blue Brick 1 x 6 with White 'TRANSPORT' Stencil Pattern (Alternate)

Could you please let me know what your source is for making this request?

Thanks,
Paul
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 4, 2019 14:13
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 310-1
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Inventories Requests, palenjo writes:
  Hi Paul!
I don't have any source for this suggestion. So you won't approve it.
But it's so frustrating. I order brick with solid pattern, and receive stencil
pattern, invariably. It's so difficult to understand how you can be so sure
that set 310 could not contain the brick with stencil pattern instead of solid
pattern? They are so similar and most sellers on BL don't know the difference.
How can you be sure that those people in the factory in the 1960s who amassed
the parts to put in the set did not sometimes put in the brick with stencil pattern?

What you are failing to understand is that we aren't sure either. We would
be more than happy to add it as an alternate part or change the part in the inventory
completely if we had some convincing evidence to make the change. However, we
don't have that, so the inventory remains unchanged until someone studies
the set enough to figure it out. The inventories are not guaranteed to be 100%
accurate. In fact, at the bottom of every inventory page is a disclaimer which
states:

"BrickLink does not guarantee an inventory to be correct and therefore an inventory
should be only used as a guide."

  My life would be more happy if the stencil pattern would be listed as alternate
part. If it's listed as alternate who would be hurt by this?

Vintage collectors who would think that it is OK to have that alternate part
in the set when it may have never come in the set. As soon as BrickLink lists
something as an alternate in a set, then everyone using that inventory will think
that the set came with that part at some time. However, what if that set *never*
came with that part? Then by adding the alternate, you have made the inventory
*less* accurate. This is why we require convincing evidence to change the inventories.
We are not going to just add and remove parts on a whim and decrease overall
inventory accuracy.

  These inventory
lists on BL determine so much here on BL, and I would hope that BL administrators
could consider the possibility.

We do. If you have convincing evidence, we will be more than happy to look into
the situation. If you don't, then we won't.

  And this is also the case for other parts, for
example 1x4 brick car grilles, where the sellers here on BL do the same thing.
They send surface print when I order embossed print, and when I order embossed
print, they send surface print.
I'm getting so tired of this. Lego is supposed to be fun. Why can't the
administrators on BL list more alternates in the inventory lists? For example
if a brick is listed as surface print, cannot the embossed print always be listed
as alternate, and vice versa?

You are getting the BrickLink catalog and inventory admin roles confused with
the roles of the sellers you are buying from.

The functions of the BrickLink catalog and inventory admins are to maintain the
BrickLink catalog and inventories to the best of our abilities using what knowledge
we have and what knowledge we can obtain. We all take our roles seriously, and
we do not make changes to things without studying them and making informed decisions.
We try to make things as accurate as possible when it comes to the BrickLink
catalog and inventories. Adding alternates willy-nilly is *not* how the system
works.

What you are complaining about is the inability of your sellers to list things
under the appropriate catalog entries. That is not the fault of the BrickLink
volunteer admins. That is the fault of the sellers, and you need to take your
complaints up with those you purchase from for sending items that do not match
what you ordered. Also, if you are concerned about receiving specific variants
of certain parts that are not distinguished in the BrickLink catalog, the onus
is on you to send a note to the sellers ahead of time asking if they have the
version you seek or not. I do this when I make purchases here, and I am sure
that many others do, also.

Cheers,
Randy