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 Author: AlfaBeO View Messages Posted By AlfaBeO
 Posted: Apr 25, 2019 13:56
 Subject: Missing parts in set 41068
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AlfaBeO (42)

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While looking up parts in a used parts lot, I found a couple of stickered round
tiles that aren't in the database. By checking the stickers sheets for sets
containing the tiles in question, I found a match in set 41068 Arendelle Castle
Celebration. And comparing the sticker sheet with the inventory list for the
set, you can see that there are more pieces missing under "Counter parts". Unfortunately
I only have one of them, sticker number 13 that goes on reddish brown 2x2 round
tiles (part 14769).

First time I encounter this problem so I have no idea about how to add it. Thought
I'd leave it to the professionals Just let me know what more I can contribute
with.
 
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Apr 25, 2019 20:08
 Subject: Re: Missing parts in set 41068
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In Inventories, AlfaBeO writes:
  While looking up parts in a used parts lot, I found a couple of stickered round
tiles that aren't in the database. By checking the stickers sheets for sets
containing the tiles in question, I found a match in set 41068 Arendelle Castle
Celebration. And comparing the sticker sheet with the inventory list for the
set, you can see that there are more pieces missing under "Counter parts". Unfortunately
I only have one of them, sticker number 13 that goes on reddish brown 2x2 round
tiles (part 14769).

First time I encounter this problem so I have no idea about how to add it. Thought
I'd leave it to the professionals Just let me know what more I can contribute
with.

The procedure to add a stickered Counterpart to BrickLink and a set inventory
is as follows:

(1) Add the stickered part to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=P

Help on adding an item to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71

(2) Add an image to the BrickLink catalog for the stickered part:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Help on adding an image to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=87

(3) Fill out an Inventory Change Request to add the stickered part to the inventory
after it is approved by the Catalog Associate:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=41068-1

Help on filling out an Inventory Change Request:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=215

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. The following thread may also be of help:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1085264
 Author: AlfaBeO View Messages Posted By AlfaBeO
 Posted: Apr 26, 2019 05:41
 Subject: Re: Missing parts in set 41068
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AlfaBeO (42)

Location:  Sweden, Skåne
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  
The procedure to add a stickered Counterpart to BrickLink and a set inventory
is as follows:

(1) Add the stickered part to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=P

Help on adding an item to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71

(2) Add an image to the BrickLink catalog for the stickered part:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Help on adding an image to the BrickLink catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=87

(3) Fill out an Inventory Change Request to add the stickered part to the inventory
after it is approved by the Catalog Associate:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=41068-1

Help on filling out an Inventory Change Request:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=215

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. The following thread may also be of help:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1085264

Thanks, appreciate the step by step list

Btw, something I've been wondering about for a while, why isn't the colour
of the Lego piece itself a part of the naming convention for decorated parts?
The colours of the pattern are usually well described, but never the colour of
the piece.
Especially minifig torsos would be much easier to identify if you could do a
basic search on torso colour and then visually compare the patterns, since sometimes
it can be hard to figure out what specifics in the pattern has been included
in the description. (perhaps this is already possible but I haven't figured
it out yet )
A question for another part of the forum I guess, but thought I'd ask the
inventory experts first

Thanks again for the help!
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Apr 26, 2019 08:11
 Subject: Re: Missing parts in set 41068
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Turez (43)

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In Inventories, AlfaBeO writes:
  why isn't the colour
of the Lego piece itself a part of the naming convention for decorated parts?
The colours of the pattern are usually well described, but never the colour of
the piece.

Because there are parts in different colours with the same pattern, e.g.
[P=3070bp06]
 
Part No: 2431pb075  Name: Tile 1 x 4 with Silver Tread Plate and 6 Rivets Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 3179 / 7636 / 7642 / 7942 / 7944 / 8191
* 
2431pb075 Tile 1 x 4 with Silver Tread Plate and 6 Rivets Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 3179 / 7636 / 7642 / 7942 / 7944 / 8191
Parts: Tile, Decorated

  Especially minifig torsos would be much easier to identify if you could do a
basic search on torso colour and then visually compare the patterns, since sometimes
it can be hard to figure out what specifics in the pattern has been included
in the description. (perhaps this is already possible but I haven't figured
it out yet )

Try this:

http://www.v4ei.com/mini-fig-ure-outer/
or goatleg.com
 Author: AlfaBeO View Messages Posted By AlfaBeO
 Posted: Apr 26, 2019 15:46
 Subject: Re: Missing parts in set 41068
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AlfaBeO (42)

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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  
Because there are parts in different colours with the same pattern, e.g.
[P=3070bp06]
 
Part No: 2431pb075  Name: Tile 1 x 4 with Silver Tread Plate and 6 Rivets Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 3179 / 7636 / 7642 / 7942 / 7944 / 8191
* 
2431pb075 Tile 1 x 4 with Silver Tread Plate and 6 Rivets Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 3179 / 7636 / 7642 / 7942 / 7944 / 8191
Parts: Tile, Decorated


I see what you mean here, but to me that should be different part numbers based
on the fact that the colour of the tiles (in this case) are different. The same
pattern with different colours get their own catalog number, why not when piece
colour is different as well?
[P=3069bpb047]
[P=3069bpb048]
[P=3069bpb049]

I am a curious person by nature, always trying to understand the reasoning behind
things around me, so my questions are not intended to be taken as criticism
(and yes, I can be quite annoying to my surrounding with my seemingly out-of-the-blue
questions about things I notice I'll restrain from further pursuit in
this matter )
  
Try this:

http://www.v4ei.com/mini-fig-ure-outer/
or goatleg.com

I've managed to miss that page! Thanks a bunch, will be very useful
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Apr 27, 2019 08:42
 Subject: Re: Missing parts in set 41068
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In Inventories, AlfaBeO writes:

  The same
pattern with different colours get their own catalog number, why not when piece
colour is different as well?

Maybe because this is the way the bricklink catalog works? For me it is logical
to have one entry for one part (which means for me: one mould with one specific
sticker or imprint) with different base colours. It is similar to, for example,
the levers with bases:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=P&catString=24

There is one entry for all black levers with different coloured bases, one entry
for all grey levers ... and so on.

Of course it would be possible to use different entries. Or to list them according
to the base colours. It was just decieded not to do so.

  I am a curious person by nature, always trying to understand the reasoning behind
things around me, so my questions are not intended to be taken as criticism

I am also just trying to find reasons here.