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| | | Author: | kulturbaronen  | | Posted: | Feb 19, 2019 13:44 | | Subject: | Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?
I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.
Or am I wrong?
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| | | | | Author: | grimsbricksuk | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2019 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Good question, it should be a 2018 entry.
In Catalog, kulturbaronen writes:
| | Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?
I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.
Or am I wrong?
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2019 15:26 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | Good question, it should be a 2018 entry.
In Catalog, kulturbaronen writes:
| | Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?
I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.
Or am I wrong?
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If minifig dates work the same way than for parts, they are automatically set
from the (oldest) set they are from.
So, unless the new version of the set gets its own entry, the minifig’s date
will stay 2017.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | kulturbaronen | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2019 16:42 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | Good question, it should be a 2018 entry.
In Catalog, kulturbaronen writes:
| | Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?
I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.
Or am I wrong?
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If minifig dates work the same way than for parts, they are automatically set
from the (oldest) set they are from.
So, unless the new version of the set gets its own entry, the minifig’s date
will stay 2017.
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Ah okay, make sense.
Thanks! 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2019 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | Good question, it should be a 2018 entry.
In Catalog, kulturbaronen writes:
| | Why is the rare Star Wars minifigure Finch Dallow (sw1005) registered under 2017?
I know the original LEGO set (Resistance Bomber) was released in 2017, but the
re-release of the set - which included the new Finch Dallow minifig - is from
late 2018.
Or am I wrong?
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If minifig dates work the same way than for parts, they are automatically set
from the (oldest) set they are from.
So, unless the new version of the set gets its own entry, the minifig’s date
will stay 2017.
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I have not looked deeply into it, but I am told that you can tell from the outside
of the box that it is the new one with Finch Dallow. There is precedent for
putting a "-2" entry for the set. Shouldn't we do that?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2019 17:09 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| There are lot of sets with changed art on boxes (redesigned) without second
entry
for example
In both cases images on box were changed when those sets were redesign. The Ghost
case is exactly the same as current the Bomber case. Kanan in first run copies
had black hair and on the box of set it is also with black hair and head printing,
but LEGO in this case very quickly realised about mistake and changed Kanan to
brown hair and head print, changing minifg on box to brown Kanan.
In second case due to redesign, change is visible in construction of Tie on box,
two box arts then exists before redesign and after.
Don't remember now any more. But when it will be decided to create second
entry for 75188 then second entries for those two sets must be created also for
consistency.
When reading commentaries on the web I wonder how many pepole are suprised by
this change, it really nothing special as you see LEGO done this before. Almost
nobody remember Kanan case. But Kanan isn't popular minifigs, Rebels cartoon
weren't such a hype. Lego even stop producing Rebels sets after third seson
and never done sets from last fourth season.
List of redesigned sets:
https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2019 19:24 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | There are lot of sets with changed art on boxes (redesigned) without second
entry
for example
In both cases images on box were changed when those sets were redesign. The Ghost
case is exactly the same as current the Bomber case. Kanan in first run copies
had black hair and on the box of set it is also with black hair and head printing,
but LEGO in this case very quickly realised about mistake and changed Kanan to
brown hair and head print, changing minifg on box to brown Kanan.
In second case due to redesign, change is visible in construction of Tie on box,
two box arts then exists before redesign and after.
Don't remember now any more. But when it will be decided to create second
entry for 75188 then second entries for those two sets must be created also for
consistency.
When reading commentaries on the web I wonder how many pepole are suprised by
this change, it really nothing special as you see LEGO done this before. Almost
nobody remember Kanan case. But Kanan isn't popular minifigs, Rebels cartoon
weren't such a hype. Lego even stop producing Rebels sets after third seson
and never done sets from last fourth season.
List of redesigned sets:
https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333
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I disagree that the Ghost case is the exact same as the Bomber. The Ghost kept
the same minifig, just changed the hair color to be more accurate to the source
material. The bomber change went from an unnamed pilot to a named character.
I realize that it's a 1 piece change (hair) compared to 2 (helmet, head),
but the context of changing to a named character that more accurately represents
the actual actor in the source material should add additional weight to the decision
on whether or not a second variation of the set is warranted. Considering
the possibility of confusion with people expecting one version of the character
or the other, it would seem like adding the alternate set number would be an
easy way to alleviate that problem in the future.
I'm not sure what the box change was for the TIE Fighter, so can't comment
on that.
Josh
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2019 01:24 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mhortar writes:
| | I realize that it's a 1 piece change (hair) compared to 2 (helmet, head)
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No in Kanan also two parts were changed.
Beside color of hair also print on the head
(black printing)
vs.
* | | 3626cpb1191 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Dark Brown Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head |
(dark brown printing)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2019 02:20 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, mhortar writes:
| | I realize that it's a 1 piece change (hair) compared to 2 (helmet, head)
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No in Kanan also two parts were changed.
Beside color of hair also print on the head
(black printing)
vs.
* | | 3626cpb1191 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Dark Brown Eyebrows, Goatee, Cheek Lines, Smile / Neutral Pattern (SW Kanan Jarrus) - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head |
(dark brown printing)
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Well, that sure does shoot half my argument down, doesn't it?
I still think changing from an unnamed to named character is enough of a change
to warrant a new set, but I appear to the in the minority.
Josh
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2019 02:35 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mhortar writes:
| | Well, that sure does shoot half my argument down, doesn't it?
I still think changing from an unnamed to named character is enough of a change
to warrant a new set, but I appear to the in the minority.
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It is still unnamed according to LEGO I checked the box art of new reissue and
there is still stated "Resistance Bomber Pilot"  
I didn't anywhere say that I don't want second entry. I just pointed
that there are more such cases when LEGO redesign set and change it box art and
for those sets we don't have separate entry still (and there are many cases).
If 75188 would be added I don't see then any reason why Ghost second shouldn't
be added for consistency as it can be also in the same way easly separate, box
art was changed. You can see if you will have black or brown Kanan just looking
on the box art.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2019 04:01 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Although box art didn't change, there are some other similar sets:
Glow in the dark vs non-glow in the dark.
Sheild vs shield version.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2019 04:16 | | Subject: | Re: Why is Finch Dallow sw1005 from 2017? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
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Although box art didn't change, there are some other similar sets:
Glow in the dark vs non-glow in the dark.
Sheild vs shield version.
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and there are probably more not yet discovered
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=247716
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