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 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 08:52
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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axaday (7301)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 16:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.

Technically all transparent 3003 bricks do not have inside supports, so according
to just the name of the part, all transparent 3003s would qualify as "3003old".
However, if we were to change all inventories in this way, then we would have
3003old parts all the way through the LEGO timeline up to the present day, which
would not be ideal. I also believe that the 3003old entry was created for those
looking for vintage _opaque_ 3003s.

When looking at the BrickLink data, it looks like the switch from 3003old to
3003 occurred around the mid-1980s, so the cutoff for including the Trans-Clear
brick as a 3003old in some inventories and as a 3003 in other inventories has
been arbitrarily set around the 1984 point. I guess this sort of makes sense,
but I am not too keen about the solution employed. I don't want to change
any more inventories with these parts in transparent colors until it is discussed
further by the admins.

This request will be rejected for now.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 16:44
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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axaday (7301)

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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.

Technically all transparent 3003 bricks do not have inside supports, so according
to just the name of the part, all transparent 3003s would qualify as "3003old".
However, if we were to change all inventories in this way, then we would have
3003old parts all the way through the LEGO timeline up to the present day, which
would not be ideal. I also believe that the 3003old entry was created for those
looking for vintage _opaque_ 3003s.

When looking at the BrickLink data, it looks like the switch from 3003old to
3003 occurred around the mid-1980s, so the cutoff for including the Trans-Clear
brick as a 3003old in some inventories and as a 3003 in other inventories has
been arbitrarily set around the 1984 point. I guess this sort of makes sense,
but I am not too keen about the solution employed. I don't want to change
any more inventories with these parts in transparent colors until it is discussed
further by the admins.

This request will be rejected for now.

Cheers,
Randy

There is something kind of sad about "rejected" immediately followed by "cheers".
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 18:55
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.

Technically all transparent 3003 bricks do not have inside supports, so according
to just the name of the part, all transparent 3003s would qualify as "3003old".
However, if we were to change all inventories in this way, then we would have
3003old parts all the way through the LEGO timeline up to the present day, which
would not be ideal. I also believe that the 3003old entry was created for those
looking for vintage _opaque_ 3003s.

When looking at the BrickLink data, it looks like the switch from 3003old to
3003 occurred around the mid-1980s, so the cutoff for including the Trans-Clear
brick as a 3003old in some inventories and as a 3003 in other inventories has
been arbitrarily set around the 1984 point. I guess this sort of makes sense,
but I am not too keen about the solution employed. I don't want to change
any more inventories with these parts in transparent colors until it is discussed
further by the admins.

This request will be rejected for now.

Cheers,
Randy

There is something kind of sad about "rejected" immediately followed by "cheers".

Sorry, typing "Cheers" before my name is somewhat of a habit so it probably doesn't
come across perfectly all the time. However, I did not mean any disrespect.

In any case, you don't expect to have every request you ever make get accepted,
do you?

I never did. In fact, I used to tell the admins that if I wasn't having stuff
rejected, then I wasn't trying hard enough to make things better or more
consistent.

Randy
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Jan 25, 2019 17:48
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 730-2
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 730  Name: Basic Building Set
* 
730-2 (Inv) Basic Building Set
407 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Trans-Clear {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I changed a few other bricks in this set and then later noticed this one. I think it qualifies on oldness to change transparent bricks, right? Since old opaque bricks were also found in the set.

Technically all transparent 3003 bricks do not have inside supports, so according
to just the name of the part, all transparent 3003s would qualify as "3003old".
However, if we were to change all inventories in this way, then we would have
3003old parts all the way through the LEGO timeline up to the present day, which
would not be ideal. I also believe that the 3003old entry was created for those
looking for vintage _opaque_ 3003s.

When looking at the BrickLink data, it looks like the switch from 3003old to
3003 occurred around the mid-1980s, so the cutoff for including the Trans-Clear
brick as a 3003old in some inventories and as a 3003 in other inventories has
been arbitrarily set around the 1984 point. I guess this sort of makes sense,
but I am not too keen about the solution employed. I don't want to change
any more inventories with these parts in transparent colors until it is discussed
further by the admins.

This request will be rejected for now.

Cheers,
Randy

Should there be a new catalog item added, something like 3003trans or 3003t
to try and differentiate between vintage, modern, and modern transparent parts?
Maybe 3003old needs to be renamed to 'Brick 2x2 pre-1980 without inside supports'
or 'Brick 2x2 vintage without inside supports'...

Josh