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| | | Author: | kuschelig  | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 13:19 | | Subject: | Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this in. I did a search
for 'set weight' in the forums and couldn't find anything addressing
this question.
How are the weight of sets derived? Does a submitter weigh the sealed set on
a scale and enter weight or is it automatically calculated by the inventory submitted?
I've purchased sealed sets 2nd hand over the years and they never seem to
weigh what is listed on BL. I've read recent posts about sellers finding
sealed sets purchased in stores as "new" only to find their contents were replaced.
I decided to check several sealed sets in our inventory, some purchased at chain
stores, others purchased at LEGO stores or SAH, and NONE of them match what was
listed on BL. On smaller sets they have been as close as +/- 2 grams off, but
on mid-size sets (200-400 pieces), I've seen them off up to +/- 30 grams
This has happened with two different scales, so not sure it is an issue with
an inaccurate scale especially considering the sets we are weighing aren't
always lighter than what is listed on BL, but sometime higher too. I also listed
a boat weight that BL shows as 49.69 grams and our scale wavers between 49 &
50 grams, so it seems to be accurate.
Could the package weight be different depending on country? (an inventory is
submitted by someone in EU and their packaging weighs less??)
I want to list some of these 2nd hand sets that appear to be sealed as "new-sealed"
but don't feel comfortable at the moment given these discrepancies between
what we show as weight and what BL says is the weight.
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| | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, kuschelig writes:
| | Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this in. I did a search
for 'set weight' in the forums and couldn't find anything addressing
this question.
How are the weight of sets derived? Does a submitter weigh the sealed set on
a scale and enter weight or is it automatically calculated by the inventory submitted?
I've purchased sealed sets 2nd hand over the years and they never seem to
weigh what is listed on BL. I've read recent posts about sellers finding
sealed sets purchased in stores as "new" only to find their contents were replaced.
I decided to check several sealed sets in our inventory, some purchased at chain
stores, others purchased at LEGO stores or SAH, and NONE of them match what was
listed on BL. On smaller sets they have been as close as +/- 2 grams off, but
on mid-size sets (200-400 pieces), I've seen them off up to +/- 30 grams
This has happened with two different scales, so not sure it is an issue with
an inaccurate scale especially considering the sets we are weighing aren't
always lighter than what is listed on BL, but sometime higher too. I also listed
a boat weight that BL shows as 49.69 grams and our scale wavers between 49 &
50 grams, so it seems to be accurate.
Could the package weight be different depending on country? (an inventory is
submitted by someone in EU and their packaging weighs less??)
I want to list some of these 2nd hand sets that appear to be sealed as "new-sealed"
but don't feel comfortable at the moment given these discrepancies between
what we show as weight and what BL says is the weight.
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I've always presumed it was the weight of a complete set with a box and instructions.
Occasionally I have to refund shipping cost a bit on sets because the BL IC has
the weight set so high.
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| | | | | | | Author: | FreeStorm | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 15:20 | | Subject: | Re: Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Adjour writes:
| | In Catalog, kuschelig writes:
| | Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this in. I did a search
for 'set weight' in the forums and couldn't find anything addressing
this question.
How are the weight of sets derived? Does a submitter weigh the sealed set on
a scale and enter weight or is it automatically calculated by the inventory submitted?
I've purchased sealed sets 2nd hand over the years and they never seem to
weigh what is listed on BL. I've read recent posts about sellers finding
sealed sets purchased in stores as "new" only to find their contents were replaced.
I decided to check several sealed sets in our inventory, some purchased at chain
stores, others purchased at LEGO stores or SAH, and NONE of them match what was
listed on BL. On smaller sets they have been as close as +/- 2 grams off, but
on mid-size sets (200-400 pieces), I've seen them off up to +/- 30 grams
This has happened with two different scales, so not sure it is an issue with
an inaccurate scale especially considering the sets we are weighing aren't
always lighter than what is listed on BL, but sometime higher too. I also listed
a boat weight that BL shows as 49.69 grams and our scale wavers between 49 &
50 grams, so it seems to be accurate.
Could the package weight be different depending on country? (an inventory is
submitted by someone in EU and their packaging weighs less??)
I want to list some of these 2nd hand sets that appear to be sealed as "new-sealed"
but don't feel comfortable at the moment given these discrepancies between
what we show as weight and what BL says is the weight.
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I've always presumed it was the weight of a complete set with a box and instructions.
Occasionally I have to refund shipping cost a bit on sets because the BL IC has
the weight set so high.
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Yep, it's the weight of a complete set with instruction etc. (sealed)
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Catalog Item Weight - Parts, Sets, Books and Gear can have weight in the catalog.
Weight must be entered as a number in grams using the metric system. Weight of
Sets, Books, and Gear is of an unopened sealed item including original box or
packaging. Weight of Parts is of the single part. Weight for catalog items can
be supplied by BrickLink members through the Catalog Change Request Form.
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Source:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=260
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, kuschelig writes:
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Could the package weight be different depending on country? (an inventory is
submitted by someone in EU and their packaging weighs less??)
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There is absolutely a 10-25% difference in the weight of most sets between the
North American and worldwide markets. The difference is the weight of the paper
for the box and instructions and also the different paper size for the instructions.
I kept data on this for years and compared hundreds of sets. A significant portion
of the sets, boxes, and instructions on BrickLink would need to have two separate
weights in order to be accurate for everyone.
You can always set your own weight for items listed in your shop.
Hope that helps!
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 15:35 | | Subject: | Re: Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, kuschelig writes:
| | Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this in. I did a search
for 'set weight' in the forums and couldn't find anything addressing
this question.
How are the weight of sets derived? Does a submitter weigh the sealed set on
a scale and enter weight or is it automatically calculated by the inventory submitted?
I've purchased sealed sets 2nd hand over the years and they never seem to
weigh what is listed on BL. I've read recent posts about sellers finding
sealed sets purchased in stores as "new" only to find their contents were replaced.
I decided to check several sealed sets in our inventory, some purchased at chain
stores, others purchased at LEGO stores or SAH, and NONE of them match what was
listed on BL. On smaller sets they have been as close as +/- 2 grams off, but
on mid-size sets (200-400 pieces), I've seen them off up to +/- 30 grams
This has happened with two different scales, so not sure it is an issue with
an inaccurate scale especially considering the sets we are weighing aren't
always lighter than what is listed on BL, but sometime higher too. I also listed
a boat weight that BL shows as 49.69 grams and our scale wavers between 49 &
50 grams, so it seems to be accurate.
Could the package weight be different depending on country? (an inventory is
submitted by someone in EU and their packaging weighs less??)
I want to list some of these 2nd hand sets that appear to be sealed as "new-sealed"
but don't feel comfortable at the moment given these discrepancies between
what we show as weight and what BL says is the weight.
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Sets should be weighed when brand new and sealed. Besides the obvious like instructions,
packaging, sealed sets also contain spare parts, sticker sheets and just the
general variance in packaging material. Packaging material variance is greater
than the lego content, as the thickness of cardboard and plastic varies more
than injection molded lego.
I have weighed items for the Bricklink catalog, and I would enter the higher
weight if I saw variance in the weight. I also used digital scales with sensitivity
down to a single gram for larger items, and down to 0.01 grams for individual
lego parts.
If you sell second hand sets, you are welcome to weigh them and enter your weight
in your inventory for those items.
Ultimately, you will have to package the sets and hence the final weight will
increase for shipping anyway.
I would say the weight is close enough for most people. If there is a big weight
difference, it's possible that either Lego changed the packaging on the set
or changed the inventory to reflect necessary changes to set design in mid-production
of that set. It has happened in numerous occasions, and usually those sets will
be marked as -1, -2, etc in the catalog if someone catches it.
Miro
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| | | | | | | Author: | kuschelig | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2019 17:22 | | Subject: | Re: Set weight variance | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| thank you everyone for the feedback.
It looks like the differences between EU & NA would explain the weight discrepancies
I have seen.
In general are most sets inventoried by EU/UK members?
We don't use IC, so I'm not so concerned about the weight difference
impacting shipping charges as we always weigh the package first before adding
shipping cost and sending an invoice.
I was more worried about the tampering issue that some have experienced and not
wanting to open some sealed sets to make sure everything was included and thus
reducing the value of the set. It looks like that will always be an issue/possibility
then knowing that EU/UK submitted sets are going to be different weights than
what we would see in the US.
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