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 Author: FreeStorm View Messages Posted By FreeStorm
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 14:45
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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FreeStorm (366)

Location:  Switzerland, Vaud
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 14:48
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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SezaR (1383)

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In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V

I don't know why this should come as counterpart (and I don't know what
the criteria is for an assembly to appear in a counterpart)
It is very easy to take apart these three parts anyway. (magnet, magnetholder
and buffer beam)
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 15:05
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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SezaR (1383)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V

I don't know why this should come as counterpart (and I don't know what
the criteria is for an assembly to appear in a counterpart)
It is very easy to take apart these three parts anyway. (magnet, magnetholder
and buffer beam)

Defenition of counterpart:
Parts which are either assembled from or permanently changed from parts in the
Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to the instructions.
Examples include parts with stickers applied and cut pneumatic hoses. In the
absence of instructions, exceptions may be made. Refer to Additional Information
About Counterparts for further details.

I don't think this assembly fits into this, otherwise we can add many other
assmblies as counterpart. I think it is better to remove it from 7710 and from
the two service packs too.
 Author: FreeStorm View Messages Posted By FreeStorm
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 15:16
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V

I don't know why this should come as counterpart (and I don't know what
the criteria is for an assembly to appear in a counterpart)
It is very easy to take apart these three parts anyway. (magnet, magnetholder
and buffer beam)

Defenition of counterpart:
Parts which are either assembled from or permanently changed from parts in the
Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to the instructions.
Examples include parts with stickers applied and cut pneumatic hoses. In the
absence of instructions, exceptions may be made. Refer to Additional Information
About Counterparts for further details.

I don't think this assembly fits into this, otherwise we can add many other
assmblies as counterpart. I think it is better to remove it from 7710 and from
the two service packs too.


Okay, If needed I will just cancel all my requests.

By the way, it's the same a these parts listed as counterparts:
 
Part No: 6014ac01  Name: Wheel 11mm D. x 12mm, Hole Round for Wheels Holder Pin with Black Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide (6014a / 6015)
* 
6014ac01 (Inv) Wheel 11mm D. x 12mm, Hole Round for Wheels Holder Pin with Black Tire 21mm D. x 12mm - Offset Tread Small Wide (6014a / 6015)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly
 
Part No: 2584c002  Name: String Reel 2 x 2 Holder with Light Gray Drum (2584 / 2585)
* 
2584c002 (Inv) String Reel 2 x 2 Holder with Light Gray Drum (2584 / 2585)
Parts: String Reel / Winch
 
Part No: 3937c11  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Red Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c11 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with Red Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge

for set
 
Set No: 4565  Name: Freight and Crane Railway
* 
4565-1 (Inv) Freight and Crane Railway
901 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1996
Sets: Train: 9V
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 16:40
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V

I don't know why this should come as counterpart (and I don't know what
the criteria is for an assembly to appear in a counterpart)
It is very easy to take apart these three parts anyway. (magnet, magnetholder
and buffer beam)

Defenition of counterpart:
Parts which are either assembled from or permanently changed from parts in the
Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to the instructions.
Examples include parts with stickers applied and cut pneumatic hoses. In the
absence of instructions, exceptions may be made. Refer to Additional Information
About Counterparts for further details.

I don't think this assembly fits into this, otherwise we can add many other
assmblies as counterpart. I think it is better to remove it from 7710 and from
the two service packs too.

It definitely meets the definition. It is a part which is assembled from parts
in the Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to
the instructions.

If an assembly has been added and approved to the catalog, then it is able to
be added to inventories. Obviously, random groups of bricks are not going to
pass approval into the catalog, but assemblies that appear over and over again
in multiple sets most likely will.

- Randy
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 19:04
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, FreeStorm writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7750  Name: Steam Engine
* 
7750-1 (Inv) Steam Engine
254 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 12V

* Add 4 Part 4022c01 Red Train Buffer Beam with Train Coupling Old and Magnet Cylindrical (4022 / 4023 / 73092) (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
To be consistent with inventory of set 7710-1
 
Set No: 7710  Name: Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
* 
7710-1 (Inv) Push-Along Passenger Steam Train
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1980
Sets: Train: 4.5V

I don't know why this should come as counterpart (and I don't know what
the criteria is for an assembly to appear in a counterpart)
It is very easy to take apart these three parts anyway. (magnet, magnetholder
and buffer beam)

Defenition of counterpart:
Parts which are either assembled from or permanently changed from parts in the
Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to the instructions.
Examples include parts with stickers applied and cut pneumatic hoses. In the
absence of instructions, exceptions may be made. Refer to Additional Information
About Counterparts for further details.

I don't think this assembly fits into this, otherwise we can add many other
assmblies as counterpart. I think it is better to remove it from 7710 and from
the two service packs too.

It definitely meets the definition. It is a part which is assembled from parts
in the Regular Items section during the process of building a set according to
the instructions.

If an assembly has been added and approved to the catalog, then it is able to
be added to inventories. Obviously, random groups of bricks are not going to
pass approval into the catalog, but assemblies that appear over and over again
in multiple sets most likely will.

- Randy

Just wondering: why the assmblies like this one are removed then:
 
Part No: 3830c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
* 
3830c01 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
Parts: Hinge
Marked for Deletion
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3830c01#T=P

The same goes for other hinges.

I know there were a long discussion about it and I agree it is difficult to decide
what should be in counterpart and what not, but anyway the hinges fit much better
than the buffer assemblies for 12v and 9v trains, because they are more fragile.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 4, 2019 23:42
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7750-1
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Just wondering: why the assmblies like this one are removed then:
 
Part No: 3830c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
* 
3830c01 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
Parts: Hinge
Marked for Deletion
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3830c01#T=P

I don't know. I had nothing to do with that decision, and it is out of my
control. Someone decided it was not going to be allowed in the catalog anymore
and that was that. I can only add assemblies to inventories that the catalog
side approves of and this one does not have approval.

- Randy