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 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
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I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

I definitely agree with you that you didn't know what was the best approach
to address it. The best approach would have been to mention what you were talking
about.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

I definitely agree with you that you didn't know what was the best approach
to address it. The best approach would have been to mention what you were talking
about.


Hi

He's talking about the same nrs -1935 and there is no reference

Like we have in this example minifig head, we have the -b and -c with the same
nrs -0629:
 
Part No: 3626bpb0629  Name: Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpb0629 Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
and
 
Part No: 3626cpb0629  Name: Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb0629 Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head


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In Catalog Requests, elias3 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

I definitely agree with you that you didn't know what was the best approach
to address it. The best approach would have been to mention what you were talking
about.


Hi

He's talking about the same nrs -1935 and there is no reference

Like we have in this example minifig head, we have the -b and -c with the same
nrs -0629:
 
Part No: 3626bpb0629  Name: Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb0629 Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
and
 
Part No: 3626cpb0629  Name: Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb0629 Minifigure, Head Female with Black Thin Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils and Red Lips Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head


Stefaan

Ah, I see. Good catch, both of you!
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

I submitted the request to change the mummy head number.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

I submitted the request to change the mummy head number.

And I created a dummy place holder to keep someone from laying a C on top of
the new B.
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In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

Okay, so the blocked open stud heads came before the hollow stud heads. The
blocked open studs are BPB and the hollow stud heads are CPB. At some point,
perhaps even from the beginning of the C heads, someone decided to try to synchronize
the B and C numbers as you can see here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=4&catID=238

This synchronization left permanently unfilled gaps in both the B and C numbers.
The C numbers, for example, begin with 1 and go in this order:

3626cpb0001
3626cpb0035
3626cpb0050
3626cpb0074

Those are the first four C-style heads by item number. Nothing was written down
about how this system was supposed to work, although it seems fairly obvious
upon surface examination. Nevertheless, trying after the fact to comprehensively
understand everything which was done with these item numbers is somewhat difficult.
Which number should the mummy head actually have? There is no way to really
know because of the gaps.

Therefore, after making and reversing some changes, I am leaving these heads
exactly as they are numbered now. If someone can explain this numbering system
to me and suggest a better item number for the mummy head, then feel free.

This request was not approved.
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, enig writes:
  I don't know what the best approach to address this but, to my understanding,
this is not right.

 
Part No: 3626bpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpb1935 Minifigure, Head Alien with Red Eyes and NON-Glow In Dark Mummy Wrapping Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 
Part No: 3626cpb1935  Name: Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb1935 Minifigure, Head Dual Sided Alien with Light Bluish Gray Crack in Right Cheek, Neutral / Angry with Yellow Electricity in Eyes Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Please update this post once it's sorted. Thank you.

Okay, so the blocked open stud heads came before the hollow stud heads. The
blocked open studs are BPB and the hollow stud heads are CPB. At some point,
perhaps even from the beginning of the C heads, someone decided to try to synchronize
the B and C numbers as you can see here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=4&catID=238

This synchronization left permanently unfilled gaps in both the B and C numbers.
The C numbers, for example, begin with 1 and go in this order:

3626cpb0001
3626cpb0035
3626cpb0050
3626cpb0074

Those are the first four C-style heads by item number. Nothing was written down
about how this system was supposed to work, although it seems fairly obvious
upon surface examination. Nevertheless, trying after the fact to comprehensively
understand everything which was done with these item numbers is somewhat difficult.
Which number should the mummy head actually have? There is no way to really
know because of the gaps.

Therefore, after making and reversing some changes, I am leaving these heads
exactly as they are numbered now. If someone can explain this numbering system
to me and suggest a better item number for the mummy head, then feel free.

This request was not approved.

My opinion is that gaps don't matter but that the synchronisation is sometimes
useful.
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I feel certain that the intention is for each pattern to have a 4 digit number
and then the c or b denotes which kind of stud. So at transitional times or
with evergreen designs, there are both b and c, but nowadays only c. So it is
natural for there to be a lot of gaps in the C's early on. Most early patterns
didn't get done in the newer hollow stud.

I know how this current case happened. The non-glow mummy [m= mof001a] was recognized
and added to the catalog in 2016, but it just sat there uninventoried. Somewhere
in Nov 10-15, 2017, jethroo submitted the pieces in order to inventory the non-glow
mummy, but he didn't actually have the figure. He uploaded pics of the glowing
version, which are indistinguishable in a picture in normal light, noting that
it was just as good as a picture of the real thing. The catmins did not agree,
so the pieces pended for a couple of months. I found that the minifig needed
an inventory and I discovered the progress that he had made and why the work
was stopped. So I bought the minifig and took the pictures. When I did, the
pieces were swiftly approved after pending for 2 months.

Now, when I am looking for the next number for a minifig piece, I go to the new
pieces listings and find the newest one and try the next number and if it works
that's my number. And in fact the next torso and legs after the ones in this
mummy were submitted by me and the mummy kept hold of its numbers, making them
temporarily skipped, for a few months until they were finally approved. But the
head didn't hold its spot because it is a B and a C was submitted with the
same number. 1935C got approved just days after 1935b was submitted. I would
have made the same mistake as the submitter and the catmins didn't catch
it either because they probably didn't think about B and C and assumed that
the head had held its spot just like the other pieces.

Perhaps the best thing would be to renumber 3626bpb1935 as 3626bpb1935b. It is
the same pattern but in non-glow paint.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  I feel certain that the intention is for each pattern to have a 4 digit number
and then the c or b denotes which kind of stud. So at transitional times or
with evergreen designs, there are both b and c, but nowadays only c. So it is
natural for there to be a lot of gaps in the C's early on. Most early patterns
didn't get done in the newer hollow stud.

I know how this current case happened. The non-glow mummy [m= mof001a] was recognized
and added to the catalog in 2016, but it just sat there uninventoried. Somewhere
in Nov 10-15, 2017, jethroo submitted the pieces in order to inventory the non-glow
mummy, but he didn't actually have the figure. He uploaded pics of the glowing
version, which are indistinguishable in a picture in normal light, noting that
it was just as good as a picture of the real thing. The catmins did not agree,
so the pieces pended for a couple of months. I found that the minifig needed
an inventory and I discovered the progress that he had made and why the work
was stopped. So I bought the minifig and took the pictures. When I did, the
pieces were swiftly approved after pending for 2 months.

Now, when I am looking for the next number for a minifig piece, I go to the new
pieces listings and find the newest one and try the next number and if it works
that's my number. And in fact the next torso and legs after the ones in this
mummy were submitted by me and the mummy kept hold of its numbers, making them
temporarily skipped, for a few months until they were finally approved. But the
head didn't hold its spot because it is a B and a C was submitted with the
same number. 1935C got approved just days after 1935b was submitted. I would
have made the same mistake as the submitter and the catmins didn't catch
it either because they probably didn't think about B and C and assumed that
the head had held its spot just like the other pieces.

Perhaps the best thing would be to renumber 3626bpb1935 as . It is
the same pattern but in non-glow paint.

I really wish we could edit posts. I didn't mean 3626bpb1935b. I meant
3626bpb0713b.
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   If someone can explain this numbering system to me

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

but it isn't followed as far as I can tell...at least not in recent years...
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In Catalog Requests, mfav writes:
  
   If someone can explain this numbering system to me

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

but it isn't followed as far as I can tell...at least not in recent years...

I guess I should have specified the numbering system for heads and specifically
the way that the synchronization of head numbers was intended to function vs.
how it actually functions. Like I said, things seem evident on the surface,
but it gets confusing the more I look into it. That page, so far as I can see,
does not specifically address this issue. The only thing I see is:

The oldest or original variant is given "a", the next "b", and so forth. For
parts originally known to exist in only one mold type, if a pre-existing variation
is discovered, it is given suffix "a", while a newly produced variation is given
suffix "b".


It looks like the item numbers for C heads were deliberately started with gaps,
which is presumably an interpretation of the rule listed above. That's all
well and good, but the gaps make knowing what an item number should be
confusing to me. Maybe I just need to study the system further.
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  Maybe I just need to study the system further.

It's likely to just make your head hurt.

Come up with a new system. I suggest 3626- followed by a six-digit number that
increments by 1 and do away with all these PBs and Cs and other things. Adding
new items is hell with this "system". Autoincrementing by 1 would be a lot cleaner.
The description should be carrying the stud type and relevant pattern information,
so the need to try to incorporate that or any other info in the item number...which
at one point was probably an attempt at shorthand...well, it's not obvious,
and if it's not obvious, it's not useful.
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In Catalog Requests, mfav writes:
  Come up with a new system.

This is definitely in the works for a number of things. I had planned to leave
sets and parts alone, but everything else needs work. Our item numbering is
in great disarray and is incredibly confusing for contributors to understand.

  I suggest 3626- followed by a six-digit number that
increments by 1 and do away with all these PBs and Cs and other things.

There has been internal discussion about getting rid of the letters in part numbers.
Like I said, I haven't given part numbers much thought. Instead, I focused
on figures, gear, books, and catalogs. For those items, a system like you describe
is what I came up with after some discussion and I think it is the best solution.

The system could be set up to automatically generate an item number using this
kind of numbering scheme and contributors wouldn't even need to worry about
that portion of a catalog submission. Any external identifying numbers (such
as ISBNs for books) could be added as alternate item numbers.

  and if it's not obvious, it's not useful.

I feel the same way. I struggled for years to understand how hips and legs assemblies
were numbered. I understand them now, but it's an unnecessarily complicated
system that makes inventorying a figure by far the most difficult part of completing
a set inventory. This is why inventories in the past were sometimes, even frequently,
approved without the figures having inventories.

Anyway . . . yes, I am definitely seriously looking at rethinking BrickLink item
numbers across the board. Set item numbers, of course, would remain unchanged.
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes
  The oldest or original variant is given "a", the next "b", and so forth. For
parts originally known to exist in only one mold type, if a pre-existing variation
is discovered, it is given suffix "a", while a newly produced variation is given
suffix "b".


A is solid stud. B is blocked open stud. C is hollow stud.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes
  The oldest or original variant is given "a", the next "b", and so forth. For
parts originally known to exist in only one mold type, if a pre-existing variation
is discovered, it is given suffix "a", while a newly produced variation is given
suffix "b".


A is solid stud. B is blocked open stud. C is hollow stud.

And then in it like anything else. Pb is a pattern number originating in the
Bricklink catalog. Bpb1973 and cpb1973 should be the same pattern on a blocked
open head and hollow stud head respectively.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Dec 31, 2018 18:01
 Subject: Re: 3626cpb1935 vs 3626cpb1935 recessed vs hollow
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
   Which number should the mummy head actually have? There is no way to really
know because of the gaps.

I don’t know what “should” means here. At the time it was submitted it got the
next pb# and that was what should happen. It was a new pattern to the catalog.
It wouldn’t have way wrong to attach it to the glow version with a and b on the
end, but what the submitter did was correct by convention. The only thing that
went wrong was that the next head in the catalog got the same pb# because the
system isn’t set up to stop that when the one already pending is a blocked open
stud and the new submission is a hollow stud.

If you want to tweak the system to make it more intuitive, we COULD move a, b,
and cto the end of the number. 3626 is a head, pb is a Bricklink pattern, 1111
is the pattern serial, and then a, b, or c at the end would denote the stud.
It might look more natural that way. But having a, b, or c where it is is in
keeping with the convention also used for decorated tiles. 3626a, 3626b, and
3626c are parts that are in the catalog. Doesn’t that make sense? That mummy
head is 3626b with a pattern on it. The pattern is #1935.