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| | | Author: | Necrotron  | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 02:20 | | Subject: | Extra Parts classification change? | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I've seen a post in the eurobricks forum which a states that the extra parts
section here on bricklink is changing. Please do not make this change. Extra
parts in sets can vary during production, and will sometimes vary from region
to region. These extra parts do not represent a complete set, nor are those pieces
required to complete a set. If you feel the need to somehow show a difference
between a complete model and a "complete as shipped" set, maybe you should add
a tic box option for that in listings for those few who only consider a set complete
if it has the parts exactly the same as the few people who verified the inventory
of the set they received.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 02:24 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Parts classification change? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Necrotron writes:
| | I've seen a post in the eurobricks forum which a states that the extra parts
section here on bricklink is changing. Please do not make this change.
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That policy change was made something around a year ago. I'm clueless as
to why it's just being mentioned now.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 02:49 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Parts classification change? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Sorry to keep posting. I should've figured out everything I wanted to say
first. I also should have invested in Tesla stock (about 3,200 shares would
have done it) back in 2010. I didn't have $50K to invest then, though.
Still don't, as a matter of fact.
Anyway, Marek and Randy could better respond to this post since they're in
charge of inventories. I'm just responding because they haven't yet.
In Catalog, Necrotron writes:
| | Extra parts in sets can vary during production, and will sometimes vary from region
to region. These extra parts do not represent a complete set, nor are those pieces
required to complete a set.
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The site is well aware of that and we do not consider extras necessary to have
a complete set. Please read how we define regular and extra parts by our policy
(which was changed, as I said, quite some time ago - I just checked and the primary
changes were made eight months ago in mid-April):
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Extra parts are still considered extra parts. We all know what they are and
there is still an Extra Items section in BrickLink inventories where they go.
I don't see that ever changing.
As for parts on sprues, they've been inventories for a long time.
Not much change there other than sweeping up the remaining parts. As for parts
which came preassembled, the site has been going that way for a long time, too.
We're just doing it more quickly now. Out of all the changes, only multipacks
are really new.
What the site really needs is an inventory which can reflect two states of existence:
new and used. I asked for that when I was an inventories administrator and Randy
is still pushing for it. This requires a functional update to the site, but
it would solve this problem permanently. Once the solution was in place you
could choose to see/buy/sell the set in the state it existed when new or the
state it exists in once used.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Parts classification change? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Robert -
Thank you for adding your thoughts to this. I really do not understand what the
problems are with what we are doing. We are just putting written policies into
place for things which were guidelines that were followed by past admins that
had not been codified into the written policies (sets that came with parts on
sprue have the sprue in the main inventory, sets are cataloged by how they came
packaged, etc.)
The only part in the catalog that was on a sprue but was not in any sets was
[p=4073c01]
Every other part on sprue was already in inventories for a longggggg time. I
don't see anyone complaining about having
[p=3742c01]
in the main inventories instead of three
in the Regular Items and one
in the Extra Items.
The current admin team is just finishing the work that was started by admins
of the past to remove the final inconsistency from the inventories, and that
final inconsistency is
[p=4073c01]
Also, Marek and I did not make this decision. We were basically told by BrickLink
to do this. So, it is not us "catalog geeks" taking over.
Concerning wheel/tire assemblies, Russell (the BrickLink catalog overseer) started
his own project a long time ago to get all wheel/tire assemblies that came assembled
in sets into the main inventories. Once again, this was not the volunteer admins
decision. What the volunteer admins are doing is finishing up the last of the
wheel/tires assemblies that had not been updated by Russell, which are
and
Don (member 62bricks) for whatever reason has decided to have a temper tantrum
because we are finishing work at a rapid pace that has been in the process of
being accomplished for a while now. Don blames the current volunteer admins for
the transition, but the transition has been going on behind the scenes away from
the forums for a long time. The only reason he complains now is due to *MY* personal
preference that changes to inventories are documented in the forums for future
reference. Other admins made all of their changes behind the scenes away from
the public. I don't. I want there to be a record.
So if wanting to be transparent about changes that I am doing to finish the work
that needed to be done to remove inconsistencies from the catalog that I had
no part in deciding on makes me a "catalog geek", so be it. Don is barking up
the wrong tree.
Cheers,
Randy
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Sorry to keep posting. I should've figured out everything I wanted to say
first. I also should have invested in Tesla stock (about 3,200 shares would
have done it) back in 2010. I didn't have $50K to invest then, though.
Still don't, as a matter of fact.
Anyway, Marek and Randy could better respond to this post since they're in
charge of inventories. I'm just responding because they haven't yet.
In Catalog, Necrotron writes:
| | Extra parts in sets can vary during production, and will sometimes vary from region
to region. These extra parts do not represent a complete set, nor are those pieces
required to complete a set.
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The site is well aware of that and we do not consider extras necessary to have
a complete set. Please read how we define regular and extra parts by our policy
(which was changed, as I said, quite some time ago - I just checked and the primary
changes were made eight months ago in mid-April):
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
Extra parts are still considered extra parts. We all know what they are and
there is still an Extra Items section in BrickLink inventories where they go.
I don't see that ever changing.
As for parts on sprues, they've been inventories for a long time.
Not much change there other than sweeping up the remaining parts. As for parts
which came preassembled, the site has been going that way for a long time, too.
We're just doing it more quickly now. Out of all the changes, only multipacks
are really new.
What the site really needs is an inventory which can reflect two states of existence:
new and used. I asked for that when I was an inventories administrator and Randy
is still pushing for it. This requires a functional update to the site, but
it would solve this problem permanently. Once the solution was in place you
could choose to see/buy/sell the set in the state it existed when new or the
state it exists in once used.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 24, 2018 01:49 | | Subject: | Re: Extra Parts classification change? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Out of all the changes, only multipacks are really new.
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No, that's not true, either. This multipack has been in the catalog since
March, 2007:
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