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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman  | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 08:59 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | I can't find this 3626bpx28 "no stubble" head. Certainly there are 3626bpx78
with light stubble printing.
[p=3626bpx28]
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You get an A for effort, but there's no way anyone is going to start those
videos and jump to the specified time in all of them. It appears that you're
viewing the minifig world through YouTube goggles. Are you an animator?
David
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| | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 09:43 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | You get an A for effort, but there's no way anyone is going to start those
videos and jump to the specified time in all of them. It appears that you're
viewing the minifig world through YouTube goggles. Are you an animator?
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No. The point was to show the lower part of the head, which in most instances
is obscured by the bandana.
I don't care if you look at the videos. I screen grabbed the moments and
attached.
Linking to the source files is something called "attribution."
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 14:40 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | Catalog lists all the "Bandit 1" as having head without stubble. However, every
instance I can find of this head in various sources all display the stubble.
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I don't consider the original source for the inventory of the figure to have
been reliable at all. I'm sure we carried these parts over from other websites
and I have no problem with updating things.
I believe in this case we'd need to mark the current figure for deletion
and add a new one. Then the inventories of six sets would need to be updated.
We should probably have a better understanding of the heads and figures on the
market right now, though, and where they came from. What has worked well in
the past is contacting sellers and asking them about their items for sale. Would
you be willing to do this?
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| | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| will follow up off-forum
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| | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 17:31 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
Yup. All instructions on Lego's web site show stubble on the figure.
If there was a stubble-less head, then which sets would it belong to?
Oh, well. We can all ignore it and then someone else bring up the question again
in six months.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 18:06 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | Oh, well. We can all ignore it and then someone else bring up the question again
in six months.
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This is not ignoring it:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1120803
I will paraphrase what I said in that message:
If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's
wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure
for sale.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DeLuca | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 18:25 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure for sale.
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The existence of non-stubble heads would not necessarily indicate that they are
an actual variant. Since all official materials (boxes, instructions, catalogues,
etc) show this head with stubble, the non-stubble versions are probably
just common misprints.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:44 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure for sale.
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The existence of non-stubble heads would not necessarily indicate that they are
an actual variant. Since all official materials (boxes, instructions, catalogues,
etc) show this head with stubble, the non-stubble versions are probably
just common misprints.
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That head is OLD. The stubble could have just rubbed off.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DeLuca | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:04 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure for sale.
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The existence of non-stubble heads would not necessarily indicate that they are
an actual variant. Since all official materials (boxes, instructions, catalogues,
etc) show this head with stubble, the non-stubble versions are probably
just common misprints.
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The stubble could have just rubbed off.
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Possibly, but it seems unlikely that just the stubble would be affected.
Age/wear would be visible across the entire print.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:46 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure for sale.
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The existence of non-stubble heads would not necessarily indicate that they are
an actual variant. Since all official materials (boxes, instructions, catalogues,
etc) show this head with stubble, the non-stubble versions are probably
just common misprints.
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The stubble could have just rubbed off.
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Possibly, but it seems unlikely that just the stubble would be affected.
Age/wear would be visible across the entire print.
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But they are just tiny dots.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | JulieK | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:57 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure for sale.
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The existence of non-stubble heads would not necessarily indicate that they are
an actual variant. Since all official materials (boxes, instructions, catalogues,
etc) show this head with stubble, the non-stubble versions are probably
just common misprints.
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The stubble could have just rubbed off.
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Possibly, but it seems unlikely that just the stubble would be affected.
Age/wear would be visible across the entire print.
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FWIW...
I have 10 used heads.
All have strong bold color on the hair and mustache.
Without the help of a magnifying glass, and then a camera, I would have thought
5 had no stubble.
My shop is closed, but I did list some Bandit 4s and some Bandit 1s and noted
in the description the inconsistency of the stubble boldness and also noted the
rest of the head is normal boldness.
The ones on the left I couldn't see the stubble with my (aging, glasses wearing)
bare eyes, but using the camera stubble can be seen.
I'm posting this to show that the boldness of the stubble varies while the
rest of the face does not. I don't know if this helps.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:00 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | so much for that attempt at humor |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:18 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | so much for that attempt at humor
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Sorry, didn't realize it was an attempt at humor. I've been getting
some occasionally unfriendly feedback of late and thus I've tended to assume
things are criticism unless stated otherwise.
It's funny . . . people complain about bitter, unresponsive administrators
and never think to question how that happens.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:34 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | so much for that attempt at humor
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Sorry, didn't realize it was an attempt at humor. I've been getting
some occasionally unfriendly feedback of late and thus I've tended to assume
things are criticism unless stated otherwise.
It's funny . . . people complain about bitter, unresponsive administrators
and never think to question how that happens.
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I like my administrators how I like my coffee... Dark (humor) and bitter 
Josh
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:38 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Sorry, didn't realize it was an attempt at humor. I've been getting
some occasionally unfriendly feedback of late and thus I've tended to assume
things are criticism unless stated otherwise.
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Nope. Not a criticism.
This also not a (negative) criticism. An observation:
I am concerned that you can't maintain the frenzied pace you've set for
yourself these last couple months, though. It's ambitious and admirable.
But, hell, I'm exhausted from just watching you do all this stuff.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:43 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | so much for that attempt at humor
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Sorry, didn't realize it was an attempt at humor. I've been getting
some occasionally unfriendly feedback of late and thus I've tended to assume
things are criticism unless stated otherwise.
It's funny . . . people complain about bitter, unresponsive administrators
and never think to question how that happens.
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Are you a vampire? Or do you look like a window?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:52 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's
wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure
for sale.
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I sent out 20 messages which encompassed the entirety of people selling that
minifig or the no stubble head. I will report back the response, but I expect
that in a day or so the head listing will all disappear.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:50 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's
wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure
for sale.
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I sent out 20 messages which encompassed the entirety of people selling that
minifig or the no stubble head. I will report back the response, but I expect
that in a day or so the head listing will all disappear.
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3 replies so far. Consistent stubble.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's
wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure
for sale.
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I sent out 20 messages which encompassed the entirety of people selling that
minifig or the no stubble head. I will report back the response, but I expect
that in a day or so the head listing will all disappear.
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3 replies so far. Consistent stubble.
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Now I have 4 replies (one of which posted here) and an independent forum post.
5/5 with stubble.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | If it's wrong, then let's fix it. But first, let's make sure it's
wrong by asking some sellers who claim to have the no-stubble head and figure
for sale.
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I sent out 20 messages which encompassed the entirety of people selling that
minifig or the no stubble head. I will report back the response, but I expect
that in a day or so the head listing will all disappear.
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3 replies so far. Consistent stubble.
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Now I have 4 replies (one of which posted here) and an independent forum post.
5/5 with stubble.
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Now someone told me 2 of his 7 ww007 have no stubble.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Every time I see this pic:
I consider messaging you and it happened again this morning when I was parting
out a set. You do a lot of good pictures, but this one is always striking to
me. That barrel never looked so good or since.
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| | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | Author: | baylit | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:30 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
Ok - Someone dragged me into this, since I have 49 of them in my inventory...
And I never appreciated the difference - I just went with whatever the inventory
reflected.
They all have stubble - some are certainly darker than others - as is with all
LEGO printing - possibly that's also due to age of the printing die. Or
possible it reflects how long Bandit 1 had gone without shaving for each version
of him.
My inventory came from all the western sets which had the head, except the reprinting
in 2002 of Fort Legoredo 6762.
You gents can modify the part catalogue as you see fit, but I recommend just
consolidating into one entry with a good pic which reflects the stubble. That'd
be easiest, but there may be some process issues with that. Message me if you
need anything further.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 20:47 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, baylit writes:
| | Or possible it reflects how long Bandit 1 had gone without shaving for each version
of him.
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I actually LOLed.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:01 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Brickitty writes:
| | In Catalog, baylit writes:
| | Or possible it reflects how long Bandit 1 had gone without shaving for each version
of him.
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I actually LOLed.
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Do you need this?
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| | | | | Author: | Draggon | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:15 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
The catalog picture for Bandit 1 actually shows stubble on close up.
I would say the quality of the images for the stubbleless head would not be sufficient
to show it.
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| | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | This do? |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 20, 2018 21:36 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
78 has a good pic if we merge them.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2018 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Is there actually a 3626bpx28? UPDATE | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | Is there actually a 3626bpx28?.
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No, there is not.
Thank you for researching this and bringing it to my attention and to axaday
for contacting sellers and to JulieK and baylit for responding with here with
evidence from their store inventories.
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