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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.
 Author: 69transamman View Messages Posted By 69transamman
 Posted: Dec 17, 2018 21:27
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.
 Author: DallasBricks View Messages Posted By DallasBricks
 Posted: Dec 17, 2018 21:29
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DallasBricks (3799)

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Although I have not met either of them, I have had numerous online interactions
with them. I wish you the best in life. Thank you for your significant efforts
in this great community.

David Hawkins
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 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
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It maybe sounds cheese but I don't care I love BrickLink
That means I really appreciate all work you have done!

Thank you Maggie and Ronald!

Agnes
 Author: Lauren_Luke View Messages Posted By Lauren_Luke
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Thank you Maggie and Ronald!
 Author: JulieK View Messages Posted By JulieK
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will.

Imagination going wild...


  Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Ronald - I don't believe we ever touched base with one another, but I'm
sure I've benefited from your work. Thank You!!

Maggie!! Also, Thank You so much! You've always been kind, helpful and thoughtful
in our interactions. Sending a virtual high five and hug
Julie
 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

This is truly shocking news! Not to speculate, but your wording makes it sound
as if their depature was not voluntary. What is happening?

Thank you Maggie and Ronald!
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over

  the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.


Thank you to both of you, so much.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
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I've never had the pleasure of meeting either of you, but every interaction
with the two of you I have ever had, was a true pleasure. Thank you both for
for all the work you have done, and thank you especially for always being available
to help. And the same goes for me: nearly everything I know about the catalog,
was learned from them. All the best for whatever other plans you have for the
future and warmest regards

Jean
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

(speechless)
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

(speechless)

14 or 9 years are really long . Having done few inventory change requests,
I know how hard your work was and how important and significant it is for all
AFOL. First time I saw these websites and checked few inventories, I was amazed
and wondered who and how made it. Soon after, I realized this was not done by
the Lego company, but by few Lego lovers, like you.
I greatly thank you for all the time you dedicated for our common passion,
Lego. I know one single "thank you" word is not enough but this is the best I
can do.
I am also speechless.
Hopefully, we can still benefit from your expertise, in one or another way, very
soon.

Reza
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.


Thank you Maggie and Ronald!
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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Thank you Maggie nad Ronald.

Thanks for all the help you always give me as a contributor to this site. Without
you I woudn't make such a progress here. I came here when you were alrady
catalog admis, I didn't kown others before you so you were for me the only
admins which I worked. I appreciate everything what you have done for this site.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

This is the saddest part of all. For whatever reason they are no longer in the
role, it is a shame that there is no official recognition of the job they have
done.

Well done to both for what they have done, although there are still many improvements
that need to be made (and no doubt these are outside the role of catmins) I am
sure the catalogue is in a better position today than it would have been without
them. Thanks.
 Author: Jan_K View Messages Posted By Jan_K
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

This is the saddest part of all. For whatever reason they are no longer in the
role, it is a shame that there is no official recognition of the job they have
done.

That's indeed remarkable - in a very sad way.

  Well done to both for what they have done, although there are still many improvements
that need to be made (and no doubt these are outside the role of catmins) I am
sure the catalogue is in a better position today than it would have been without
them. Thanks.

I second this.

Bricklink is going through rough times - and the (considerably large) German
base of Bricklink (store and customer wise) is going through an exceptionally
worrying period nowadays - and now this surprising decision comes on top.

I would already be worried if only one of theses two great and important BL admins
left - but with two leaving at the same time (without a word from the "inner
circle"/site administration) it's not hard to guess that there are not (only)
individual personal reasons behind.

I believe that the visible and obvious demise of this site (that most of us consider
to be a significant part of their LEGO life) has just accelerated a lot.

Oh Bricklink, where are you going

Jan
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In General, Jan_K writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

This is the saddest part of all. For whatever reason they are no longer in the
role, it is a shame that there is no official recognition of the job they have
done.

That's indeed remarkable - in a very sad way.

Whoa.. +1

From a random seller then: thank you guys for your hard work, I owe you alot!
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I will.

No matter what happened, they deserve a LOT of respect for all the work they
have done for us. It seems like it cannot be a coincidence that two volunteers
are lost at once. That worries me.

   Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Ronald and Maggie, thank you very much for all the work that you have done. The
dedication that you have shown by working on the catalog (nearly) every day for
all those years is absolutely exceptional.

Time given by volunteers is a precious gift. We only have a limited amount available,
and even with the best intentions it can never be returned or repaid.

I really appreciate the time, effort and expert knowledge that you have given
to the BrickLink community.
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In General, WoutR writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I will.

No matter what happened, they deserve a LOT of respect for all the work they
have done for us. It seems like it cannot be a coincidence that two volunteers
are lost at once. That worries me.

   Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Ronald and Maggie, thank you very much for all the work that you have done. The
dedication that you have shown by working on the catalog (nearly) every day for
all those years is absolutely exceptional.

Time given by volunteers is a precious gift. We only have a limited amount available,
and even with the best intentions it can never be returned or repaid.

I really appreciate the time, effort and expert knowledge that you have given
to the BrickLink community.

From all of us at CalsBricks +1
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Good luck to them in all they do.
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you Maggie and Ronald for all the hard work as catmins. Truly remarkable
dedication by both of you. Wishing you the best.

Miro
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Maybe this one isn't your to answer, but anyway-

Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.
It's not surprising at all that volunteer admins leave if all the revenue
disappear before their eyes while they are doing work on the catalog, the heart
of Bricklink, with great consistency and discipline.
I'd say, rather than drawing on a pool of retired volunteers who already
gave everything, hoping that their combined effort results in a free FTE for
Bricklink, just appoint someone for real.

Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.
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In General, Teup writes:
  Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.

This is sort of a debunked myth, right? We don't see the balance sheet because
the company is wholly owned, but Bricklink doesn't seem to be rolling in
extra cash.

  Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.

The people whose names start with Admin are who you are paying, in addition to
some developers and mostly the owner.
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In General, axaday writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.

This is sort of a debunked myth, right? We don't see the balance sheet because
the company is wholly owned, but Bricklink doesn't seem to be rolling in
extra cash.

Debunked myth? This was pretty much confirmed from all sides. When we calculate
everything pestimistically, Bricklink has enough for some 20 FTE. When we look
at what Bricklink is doing, we are looking at 2 FTE optimistically (very
optimistically - look at what the BrickOwl admin does on a daily basis). Pretty
hard to make to make those two meet..

  
  Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.

The people whose names start with Admin are who you are paying, in addition to
some developers and mostly the owner.

You are probably right.
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In General, Teup writes:
  Debunked myth? This was pretty much confirmed from all sides. When we calculate
everything pestimistically, Bricklink has enough for some 20 FTE. When we look
at what Bricklink is doing, we are looking at 2 FTE optimistically (very
optimistically - look at what the BrickOwl admin does on a daily basis). Pretty
hard to make to make those two meet..

I don't know what 2 and 20 FTE are.
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In General, axaday writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Debunked myth? This was pretty much confirmed from all sides. When we calculate
everything pestimistically, Bricklink has enough for some 20 FTE. When we look
at what Bricklink is doing, we are looking at 2 FTE optimistically (very
optimistically - look at what the BrickOwl admin does on a daily basis). Pretty
hard to make to make those two meet..

I don't know what 2 and 20 FTE are.

Full Time Employee


Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code, so changes are easier
to implement than for someone that doesn't know the code they are working
on.
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  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code, so changes are easier
to implement than for someone that doesn't know the code they are working
on.

Every time I see this it makes me wonder. I mean, I only took one C++ class.
I can write a program that can tell you what day it will be on a date in the
future. I can write a program that can sort some simple data files. I have
no idea how someone builds a site like this. But I know that people do it all
the time. A man named Daniel built Bricklink and a man name Lawrence built Brickowl.
Why is Bricklink still digging through and patching "spaghetti code" that they
didn't build and Daniel didn't document for them? Can't the interface
that all of us see (and which the new team DID build) be attached to a brand
new, professional, clearly built site and never have to worry about the spaghetti
again?
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In General, axaday writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code, so changes are easier
to implement than for someone that doesn't know the code they are working
on.

They have had the code for what 5, 6 years?
That’s a long time to keep using this excuse.


  Every time I see this it makes me wonder. I mean, I only took one C++ class.
I can write a program that can tell you what day it will be on a date in the
future. I can write a program that can sort some simple data files. I have
no idea how someone builds a site like this. But I know that people do it all
the time. A man named Daniel built Bricklink and a man name Lawrence built Brickowl.
Why is Bricklink still digging through and patching "spaghetti code" that they
didn't build and Daniel didn't document for them? Can't the interface
that all of us see (and which the new team DID build) be attached to a brand
new, professional, clearly built site and never have to worry about the spaghetti
again?

That’s the problem.
AFAICT, what BL did was replace some bits of the presentation/interface, but
they still don’t have clean layers and modules.
The “spaghetti”-ness means the interface (what we see) and the engine (what is
done, mainly, requests to the database) are unorganized and, worse, entwined
within each other.

BrickLink was made by accretion: one need/spaghetti twisted into the mess after
another.
BrickOwl was made with the needs clearly stated, and with room for other needs,
like a neatly layered wedding cake.

And when you have a plate of spaghetti and you want a neatly layered wedding
cake instead, you don’t replace one spaghetti with a sponge cake disk, another
spaghetti with cream, and yet another spaghetti with royal ice. You throw the
spaghetti away and make a cake.
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  And when you have a plate of spaghetti and you want a neatly layered wedding
cake instead, you don’t replace one spaghetti with a sponge cake disk, another
spaghetti with cream, and yet another spaghetti with royal ice. You throw the
spaghetti away and make a cake.


This reminds me of the Friends episode where Rachel makes a trifle/shepherd's
pie.

Tyson.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code, so changes are easier
to implement than for someone that doesn't know the code they are working
on.

They have had the code for what 5, 6 years?
That’s a long time to keep using this excuse.


  Every time I see this it makes me wonder. I mean, I only took one C++ class.
I can write a program that can tell you what day it will be on a date in the
future. I can write a program that can sort some simple data files. I have
no idea how someone builds a site like this. But I know that people do it all
the time. A man named Daniel built Bricklink and a man name Lawrence built Brickowl.
Why is Bricklink still digging through and patching "spaghetti code" that they
didn't build and Daniel didn't document for them? Can't the interface
that all of us see (and which the new team DID build) be attached to a brand
new, professional, clearly built site and never have to worry about the spaghetti
again?

That’s the problem.
AFAICT, what BL did was replace some bits of the presentation/interface, but
they still don’t have clean layers and modules.
The “spaghetti”-ness means the interface (what we see) and the engine (what is
done, mainly, requests to the database) are unorganized and, worse, entwined
within each other.

BrickLink was made by accretion: one need/spaghetti twisted into the mess after
another.
BrickOwl was made with the needs clearly stated, and with room for other needs,
like a neatly layered wedding cake.

And when you have a plate of spaghetti and you want a neatly layered wedding
cake instead, you don’t replace one spaghetti with a sponge cake disk, another
spaghetti with cream, and yet another spaghetti with royal ice. You throw the
spaghetti away and make a cake.

It really isn't rocket science. It needs a top class analyst and some very
strong application programmers. This should have been done when they took
over the site. Lawrence knew what he was doing and produced Brickowl - a solid
team with full time support from the analyst in question could have made this
site un-top-able from a marketplace point of view. The market pull of this site
is incredible and they really don't have to anything about that (but they
should) - we always remember when you get to the top the only way you can go
is down. There will always be someone looking to knock you off your perch.
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  And when you have a plate of spaghetti and you want a neatly layered wedding
cake instead, you don’t replace one spaghetti with a sponge cake disk, another
spaghetti with cream, and yet another spaghetti with royal ice. You throw the
spaghetti away and make a cake.

https://www.tastemade.com/videos/spaghetti-layer-cake

Not from anywhere where food is made an consumed with some idea as to
what edible means, and most definitely not found in Larousse
 
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  BrickLink was made by accretion: one need/spaghetti twisted into the mess after
another.
BrickOwl was made with the needs clearly stated, and with room for other needs,
like a neatly layered wedding cake.

And when you have a plate of spaghetti and you want a neatly layered wedding
cake instead, you don’t replace one spaghetti with a sponge cake disk, another
spaghetti with cream, and yet another spaghetti with royal ice. You throw the
spaghetti away and make a cake.

Well, you are completely right but isn't that what already happened? I think
that's what Eric spent most of his time on. I'm not an expert and my
memory isn't great but didn't they even rewrite entire sections of code
from scratch because of security risks with the old code? Anyway, there had been
quite some time between Dan and the current team, and it has been some years
that the current team is (was) working on the site. They rebuilt the site pretty
thoroughly I think, with a completely redone interface and Instant Checkout -
both improvements that I have greatly applauded and I think that was quite a
good job. While you cannot "improve" spaghetti into a wedding cake, I do imagine
that section by section the spaghetti has gradually been mopped away by now..
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In General, Teup writes:
  […]
Well, you are completely right but isn't that what already happened? I think
that's what Eric spent most of his time on. I'm not an expert and my
memory isn't great but didn't they even rewrite entire sections of code
from scratch because of security risks with the old code? Anyway, there had been
quite some time between Dan and the current team, and it has been some years
that the current team is (was) working on the site. They rebuilt the site pretty
thoroughly I think, with a completely redone interface and Instant Checkout -
both improvements that I have greatly applauded and I think that was quite a
good job. While you cannot "improve" spaghetti into a wedding cake, I do imagine
that section by section the spaghetti has gradually been mopped away by now..

Well, all I know is the spaghetti code excuse has been regularly and thoroughly
used since I joined, in 2014….
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   Why is Bricklink still digging through and patching "spaghetti code" that they
didn't build and Daniel didn't document for them?

Because nobody on staff understands SQL?

  Can't the interface that all of us see (and which the new team DID build)
be attached to a brand new, professional, clearly built site and never have
to worry about the spaghetti again?

That's the situation the site's in now. New paint on a rusted body. AND
it would be like trying to fix the engine while the car is running.

To do it right, the whole thing needs to go. It'd probably cost 8x as much
to try to keep the old stuff because it takes forever to find where all the problems
are. And it also needs to be understood that today's "new code" is tomorrow's
"spaghetti."

At least four $100/hour people who know what the hell they're doing...a year,
maybe two. Ballparking it. Then you're on endless repeat of maintaining the
code, chasing the new web standards and dealing with new interfaces.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code

Not picking on you in particular, but I'm disappointed to see this kind of
thing posted in this thread. I understand that a fairly predictable group of
BrickLink is Just Awful! people are going to take every opportunity they
can to bash this website and promote competing sites.

I had genuinely hoped, though, that out of respect for the spirit of this thread
things wouldn't go in that direction.
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code

Not picking on you in particular, but I'm disappointed to see this kind of
thing posted in this thread. I understand that a fairly predictable group of
BrickLink is Just Awful! people are going to take every opportunity they
can to bash this website and promote competing sites.

I had genuinely hoped, though, that out of respect for the spirit of this thread
things wouldn't go in that direction.

I'm not a Bricklink is just awful! person. I'm a person who thinks that
all the crises that we needlessly faced on Bricklink were awful, and that the
neglect of buyers, sellers, and admins is awful. I am not a negative person,
but I am even less a submissive person. Don't think it's easy for me,
I really do not want to be here, but I'm completely stuck, at least until
I get my own shop fully running.
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  I really do not want to be here, but I'm completely stuck, at least until
I get my own shop fully running.

It's so odd, almost as long as I've been here, I've heard this. The
first time was barely 12 months after Dan launched the site. There was discontent
back then too. I said then, and I will repeat now, BL has inertia. If you really
want to go down this road, you better have reasonably deep pockets, and be prepared
to operate at a loss for a number of years. In any case, best to you in your
endeavors.

Nita Rae
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In General, cosmicray writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  I really do not want to be here, but I'm completely stuck, at least until
I get my own shop fully running.

It's so odd, almost as long as I've been here, I've heard this. The
first time was barely 12 months after Dan launched the site. There was discontent
back then too. I said then, and I will repeat now, BL has inertia. If you really
want to go down this road, you better have reasonably deep pockets, and be prepared
to operate at a loss for a number of years. In any case, best to you in your
endeavors.

Nita Rae

Thanks Yeah, I don't really know what to expect but I have been asking
around for some time as much as I can. My girlfriend is a webdesigner and hopefully
pocket depth can be compensated by knowing the right people.. and I am willing
to put some work into it myself as well. Maybe manage inventory on Bricklink
and just upload and download orders, but I was thinking, in that case I would
continue selling and paying fees here and helping members as it wouldn't
be right to use that infrastructure without giving back. Main objective is to
eliminate this feeling of being threatened and taking the Bricklink gamble, which
is kind of how it feels. If BL will be in trouble for not being GDPR compliant,
if they decide to abandon offsite payment, if something like the current German
crisis will hit me and Bricklink remains silent, if the site becomes unstable,
if I am again not able to part out a set without crashing the site, if my remarks
get deleted again, ... then I can always still continue selling on my own.

It's mostly about my actual life and income being dependent on Bricklink.
I cannot pay my rent without Bricklink right now. I can understand that for people
for whom Bricklink is just a hobby I seem overly negative and overreacting, but
in the position I'm in it's really pretty tough to deal with a site that
doesn't solve problems, communicate or generally shows care for its sellers,
and I'm hearing the same from some other sellers who are in a similar position.
We need security somehow.
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Thank for your hard work on the site.
I hope you enjoying the free time you have now.

Question:
Did Maggie and Ronald always have a -1 as there feedback?
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  Thank for your hard work on the site.
I hope you enjoying the free time you have now.

Question:
Did Maggie and Ronald always have a -1 as there feedback?

Where do you see that?

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=therobo
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=maggiec
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, taxan writes:
  Thank for your hard work on the site.
I hope you enjoying the free time you have now.

Question:
Did Maggie and Ronald always have a -1 as there feedback?

Where do you see that?

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=therobo
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=maggiec

Did a search and did misspelled both name.
Please forget my question .
 Author: Daudelin View Messages Posted By Daudelin
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code

Not picking on you in particular, but I'm disappointed to see this kind of
thing posted in this thread. I understand that a fairly predictable group of
BrickLink is Just Awful! people are going to take every opportunity they
can to bash this website and promote competing sites.

I had genuinely hoped, though, that out of respect for the spirit of this thread
things wouldn't go in that direction.

I don't understand why there is so much promoting of a certain competing
website on here--I had no idea that there were other sites like Bricklink
until recently, when I found out on this forum that apparently BO is soooo much
better and BO is soooo much nicer than Bricklink can ever be, and Bricklink is
horrible.

My personal opinion would be that if someone likes other websites better than
Bricklink, they can use those. If they have complaints about Bricklink, it's
fine for them to voice their opinions (somewhere other than this thread, like
StormChaser says), but why anyone would want potential buyers or sellers to read
comments that this site is trashy and other sites are much better, I don't
know. It simply takes away from your business (if you are a seller) or favorite
stores.

That being said, thank you to all the Bricklink admins who keep this site going,
and thank you Maggie and Ronald for all the time and effort that you've donated
willingly to Bricklink. We all really appreciate it
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In General, Daudelin writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  Remember also that Lawrence the BO admin knows his own code

Not picking on you in particular, but I'm disappointed to see this kind of
thing posted in this thread. I understand that a fairly predictable group of
BrickLink is Just Awful! people are going to take every opportunity they
can to bash this website and promote competing sites.

I had genuinely hoped, though, that out of respect for the spirit of this thread
things wouldn't go in that direction.

I don't understand why there is so much promoting of a certain competing
website on here--I had no idea that there were other sites like Bricklink
until recently, when I found out on this forum that apparently BO is soooo much
better and BO is soooo much nicer than Bricklink can ever be, and Bricklink is
horrible.

My personal opinion would be that if someone likes other websites better than
Bricklink, they can use those. If they have complaints about Bricklink, it's
fine for them to voice their opinions (somewhere other than this thread, like
StormChaser says), but why anyone would want potential buyers or sellers to read
comments that this site is trashy and other sites are much better, I don't
know. It simply takes away from your business (if you are a seller) or favorite
stores.


You're right, plus I risk getting forum banned which inhibits my ability
to draw extra buyers or help people find their way on Bricklink, so my reasons
for me to do it clearly not about money. The main reason is that any kind of
criticism is easily smothered with "that is too expensive, Bricklink doesn't
have that kind of manpower" and the conversation ends in submissive acceptance
because we cannot move beyond that point as nobody can prove otherwise.

I have a huge hunge things could be handled much better within the same budget,
and I'm not the only one. But I can't push my "hunge" on anybody else.
I think the only real valid argument to help the conversation beyond the impasse,
is pointing out that BrickOwl doesn't have said problem. BrickOwl is not
an end, it's just a means. I agree it's not the prettiest argument, but
it's the only one I can think of, and I think it's very valid.

(By the way, I think Bricklink has really great buyers and sellers, and I really
enjoy dealing with all of you - that's really a loss when selling elsewhere)
 Author: Daudelin View Messages Posted By Daudelin
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In General, Teup writes:
  You're right, plus I risk getting forum banned which inhibits my ability
to draw extra buyers or help people find their way on Bricklink, so my reasons
for me to do it clearly not about money. The main reason is that any kind of
criticism is easily smothered with "that is too expensive, Bricklink doesn't
have that kind of manpower" and the conversation ends in submissive acceptance
because we cannot move beyond that point as nobody can prove otherwise.

I have a huge hunge things could be handled much better within the same budget,
and I'm not the only one. But I can't push my "hunge" on anybody else.
I think the only real valid argument to help the conversation beyond the impasse,
is pointing out that BrickOwl doesn't have said problem. BrickOwl is not
an end, it's just a means. I agree it's not the prettiest argument, but
it's the only one I can think of, and I think it's very valid.

(By the way, I think Bricklink has really great buyers and sellers, and I really
enjoy dealing with all of you - that's really a loss when selling elsewhere)

I definitely see your point. However, the argument might still work if you don't
mention a specific site, but only mention that other competing websites don't
have these issues. This would benefit you and us, because you could make the
argument you have been making, and would probably be less likely to be banned,
and buyers who don't know about BO still wouldn't know, which would benefit
us sellers.
I'm sorry if this comes across as nitpicky, but I'm only concerned about
promoting on Bricklink a specific website that is rising rapidly and could potentially
overtake Bricklink. This is not so much of a problem if we were all planning
on leaving Bricklink, but for those of us who are planning on continuing on Bricklink,
it hurts our businesses.
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In General, Daudelin writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  You're right, plus I risk getting forum banned which inhibits my ability
to draw extra buyers or help people find their way on Bricklink, so my reasons
for me to do it clearly not about money. The main reason is that any kind of
criticism is easily smothered with "that is too expensive, Bricklink doesn't
have that kind of manpower" and the conversation ends in submissive acceptance
because we cannot move beyond that point as nobody can prove otherwise.

I have a huge hunge things could be handled much better within the same budget,
and I'm not the only one. But I can't push my "hunge" on anybody else.
I think the only real valid argument to help the conversation beyond the impasse,
is pointing out that BrickOwl doesn't have said problem. BrickOwl is not
an end, it's just a means. I agree it's not the prettiest argument, but
it's the only one I can think of, and I think it's very valid.

(By the way, I think Bricklink has really great buyers and sellers, and I really
enjoy dealing with all of you - that's really a loss when selling elsewhere)

I definitely see your point. However, the argument might still work if you don't
mention a specific site, but only mention that other competing websites don't
have these issues. This would benefit you and us, because you could make the
argument you have been making, and would probably be less likely to be banned,
and buyers who don't know about BO still wouldn't know, which would benefit
us sellers.
I'm sorry if this comes across as nitpicky, but I'm only concerned about
promoting on Bricklink a specific website that is rising rapidly and could potentially
overtake Bricklink. This is not so much of a problem if we were all planning
on leaving Bricklink, but for those of us who are planning on continuing on Bricklink,
it hurts our businesses.

Fair enough, I guess I just got hopeless to the point I feel like BL needs to
have some direct competition as a way of "pepper in the butt" as we'd say
in Dutch, to have something at stake if things are not solved. It reminds me
of cases here in the NL where a public service like public transport or mail
is turned into private companies, with the promise that competition will make
them run harder and improve, but then that competition never comes so they can
afford to increase prices without increasing service.
I don't mean to annoy members though, so I guess I'll stop doing it so
consistently.

Still no word on the German crisis it seems.. a sad contrast.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Debunked myth? This was pretty much confirmed from all sides. When we calculate
everything pestimistically, Bricklink has enough for some 20 FTE. When we look
at what Bricklink is doing, we are looking at 2 FTE optimistically (very
optimistically - look at what the BrickOwl admin does on a daily basis). Pretty
hard to make to make those two meet..

I don't know what 2 and 20 FTE are.

Full Time Employee


Or Full Time Equivalent. That could be one person, or for example 5 people working
one day a week. I know that many people work on Bricklink, but with everything
that has happened (downtime, GDPA, core functionality bugs, shops showing up
empty, messages and tickets unanswered, the current German crisis) it has become
difficult to believe that at any one day in the week there's a 20 or even
10 strong team on the site actively at work. Or maybe they are, but on side projects.
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In General, Teup writes:
  In General, axaday writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.

This is sort of a debunked myth, right? We don't see the balance sheet because
the company is wholly owned, but Bricklink doesn't seem to be rolling in
extra cash.

Debunked myth? This was pretty much confirmed from all sides. When we calculate
everything pestimistically, Bricklink has enough for some 20 FTE. When we look
at what Bricklink is doing, we are looking at 2 FTE optimistically (very
optimistically - look at what the BrickOwl admin does on a daily basis). Pretty
hard to make to make those two meet..

  
  Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.

The people whose names start with Admin are who you are paying, in addition to
some developers and mostly the owner.

You are probably right.

I won't give any actual numbers discussed at the BrickLink roundtable discussions
because I'm not sure how much if it should be considered public information,
but from my assumption for the first year or so since BL was sold, it operated
at a sizable loss. At that time there were something like 19 employees when
you consider all of the web development team, Jacqueline, Ryan, Marvin and others
who were (I assume) full-time employees. Of course the development team would
not necessarily need to stay on full-time, and in the end less than a dozen employees
could probably keep things running well once all projects had progressed from
"development" phase to "upkeep/maintenance" phase.

While the owner of BrickLink may have a passion for LEGO, he is also a successful
businessman and one generally does that by finding passion in things that can
be profitable. I would put good money on BrickLink posting a loss the first
two to three years since acquisition, at which point it would reach profitability,
primarily due to the reduced workforce. The business would be categorized as
a "cash cow" at this point--where it has a stable and reliable income even
if substantial outside cash infusions, inventions or developments happen.

I think BrickLink needs to find a balance where it is consistently producing
a conservative amount of new content (new web designs, new projects, etc.) while
simultaneously retaining those parts of its design that are time tested. I am
still confident in BrickLink's future, but I also feel like there will be
some painful speed bumps along the way and the loss of these two catalog admins
is a painful one indeed.
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In General, Teup writes:
  Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work?

The reason Bricklink uses volunteers for so much work is because volunteers have
always turned up to do it.

I'm sad to see Ronald and Maggie go. And I was sad to see Jennifer go a
year ago. Those were the admins when I first started getting actively involved
here and they were all a tremendous help to me. They all poured themselves into
the work and I am sure spent a LOT of time on it and if that kind of work doesn't
appeal to you, it is hard to understand why they would do it. But they did it
because they liked doing it and had figured out their system how they would do
it well. Now if they left because of hurt feelings, that is a sad thing and
I don't want to minimize that in any way. But at the same time, I doubt
it could be ONLY hurt feelings. It is always going to be the case that the owner
and his staff are going to be making decisions that are going to be the reality
moving forward. If the admins we've had were asked to leave, I don't
like that. But if the admins we've had just aren't having fun anymore,
because things are moving in a new direction, then I thank them for all they
have done and wish them well. Robert, Marek, and Randy are all doing a good
job and if they also want to hang it up in 10 or 14 years, I will thank them
too for their work and see who will take up the mantle next. Bricklink has always
been able to find good help.
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In General, axaday writes:
  I'm sad to see Ronald and Maggie go. And I was sad to see Jennifer go a
year ago. Those were the admins when I first started getting actively involved
here and they were all a tremendous help to me. They all poured themselves into
the work and I am sure spent a LOT of time on it and if that kind of work doesn't
appeal to you, it is hard to understand why they would do it. But they did it
because they liked doing it and had figured out their system how they would do
it well. Now if they left because of hurt feelings, that is a sad thing and
I don't want to minimize that in any way. But at the same time, I doubt
it could be ONLY hurt feelings. It is always going to be the case that the owner
and his staff are going to be making decisions that are going to be the reality
moving forward. If the admins we've had were asked to leave, I don't
like that. But if the admins we've had just aren't having fun anymore,
because things are moving in a new direction, then I thank them for all they
have done and wish them well. Robert, Marek, and Randy are all doing a good
job and if they also want to hang it up in 10 or 14 years, I will thank them
too for their work and see who will take up the mantle next. Bricklink has always
been able to find good help.

+1.
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In General, Teup writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Maybe this one isn't your to answer, but anyway-

Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.
It's not surprising at all that volunteer admins leave if all the revenue
disappear before their eyes while they are doing work on the catalog, the heart
of Bricklink, with great consistency and discipline.
I'd say, rather than drawing on a pool of retired volunteers who already
gave everything, hoping that their combined effort results in a free FTE for
Bricklink, just appoint someone for real.

Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.


From what I recall in my conversations...
Maggie and Ronald were offerred paid positions, but since they thought that Bricklink
should remain a public free resource, they denied it.
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In General, LordSkylark writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Maybe this one isn't your to answer, but anyway-

Why doesn't Bricklink simply pay the people who do the work? There is plenty
budget, especially since it's already spent on extra projects on the side.
It's not surprising at all that volunteer admins leave if all the revenue
disappear before their eyes while they are doing work on the catalog, the heart
of Bricklink, with great consistency and discipline.
I'd say, rather than drawing on a pool of retired volunteers who already
gave everything, hoping that their combined effort results in a free FTE for
Bricklink, just appoint someone for real.

Not saying the emeriti thing is a bad idea but if core work that is necessary
for my business is done by volunteers, then I don't understand who I'm
paying.


From what I recall in my conversations...
Maggie and Ronald were offerred paid positions, but since they thought that Bricklink
should remain a public free resource, they denied it.

Interesting. I don't know about it and nor is it my business, but anyway
that would have been a fine gesture by Bricklink. The reason I'm starting
about this is just that I'm very grateful to them, and it just pains me to
see people doing such impressive work for such an impressive span of time, in
order for people on both ends - the sellers like me on Bricklink on the one hand,
and the management on the other hand, are earning a living thanks to their work.
Without catalog admins, no Bricklink. Whatever their relationship to Bricklink
was like, I just hope that Ronald and Maggie look back on that chapter with contentment
and got what they wanted from it.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

I would hope that any time a former admin weighed in on an issue, it would be
taken with some gravity, with or without a title. But these paragraphs look
strange to me laid out beside each other. If the burnout could be prevented,
there might not be any more former admins to join the emeriti. If it can't,
there won't be anyone who wants to be an emeriti.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

Thank you, StormChaser, for this kind post regarding our recently-departed catalog
admins. I couldn't have said it better myself.

I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.

Mentioning burn-out seems like a non sequitur. Maggie and Ronald had been active
for much longer than a few years and I doubt they both burned out on the exact
same day.

It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to
step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case,
why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume
unless I hear otherwise.

My thanks again to Maggie and Ronald!
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In General, chetzler writes:
  It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case, why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume unless I hear otherwise.


As we know little about the circumstances surrounding their departure, we should
refrain from making assumptions until such time as they choose to speak
about their experiences. This kind of speculation only spreads rumours, and it
has the potential to divide/harm the BL community.
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In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case, why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume unless I hear otherwise.


As we know little about the circumstances surrounding their departure, we should
refrain from making assumptions until such time as they choose to speak
about their experiences. This kind of speculation only spreads rumours, and it
has the potential to divide/harm the BL community.

I don't think my insignificant opinion is going to cause any speculation,
however, when there is a dearth of facts, speculation is the natural outcome.
That said, what are we to make of this if no one ever wants to speak up?
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In General, chetzler writes:
  In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case, why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume unless I hear otherwise.


As we know little about the circumstances surrounding their departure, we should
refrain from making assumptions until such time as they choose to speak
about their experiences. This kind of speculation only spreads rumours, and it
has the potential to divide/harm the BL community.

I don't think my insignificant opinion is going to cause any speculation,


If your opinion is admittedly insignificant, why did you post it in the first
place?

  however, when there is a dearth of facts, speculation is the natural outcome.


There is no need to share such speculation, particularly in an accusatory
manner. (Additionally, this seems to contradict the first half of your sentence).

   That said, what are we to make of this if no one ever wants to speak up?


Perhaps we could mind our own business?
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In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case, why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume unless I hear otherwise.


As we know little about the circumstances surrounding their departure, we should
refrain from making assumptions until such time as they choose to speak
about their experiences. This kind of speculation only spreads rumours, and it
has the potential to divide/harm the BL community.

I don't think my insignificant opinion is going to cause any speculation,


If your opinion is admittedly insignificant, why did you post it in the first
place?

  however, when there is a dearth of facts, speculation is the natural outcome.


There is no need to share such speculation, particularly in an accusatory
manner. (Additionally, this seems to contradict the first half of your sentence).

   That said, what are we to make of this if no one ever wants to speak up?


Perhaps we could mind our own business?

You made an unsolicited reply to my post in a public forum and now you're
trying to lecture me about minding my own business?
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In General, chetzler writes:
  In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  In General, DeLuca writes:
  In General, chetzler writes:
  It seems fairly obvious that they were (unceremoniously, I'd add) asked to step down. Your vagueness reenforces that appearance. If that is the case, why not just say that? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I will assume unless I hear otherwise.


As we know little about the circumstances surrounding their departure, we should
refrain from making assumptions until such time as they choose to speak
about their experiences. This kind of speculation only spreads rumours, and it
has the potential to divide/harm the BL community.

I don't think my insignificant opinion is going to cause any speculation,


If your opinion is admittedly insignificant, why did you post it in the first
place?

  however, when there is a dearth of facts, speculation is the natural outcome.


There is no need to share such speculation, particularly in an accusatory
manner. (Additionally, this seems to contradict the first half of your sentence).

   That said, what are we to make of this if no one ever wants to speak up?


Perhaps we could mind our own business?

You made an unsolicited reply to my post in a public forum


Why did you post something on a public forum, to which you did not want a reply?


  and now you're trying to lecture me about minding my own business?


I was referring to your interest in, and accusatory speculation about, the circumstances
of Maggie’s and Ronald’s departures.
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In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.

Hello there!

I recently found out that we don't have any CatMins at the moment. After
I checked what images and parts are pending approval, so I don't need to
add them myself.

That went totally under my radar! I only found this post and another post in
regards to the departure of the CatMins I knew. Which did an awesome job in the
past.

Anyway, I don't want to add any comment on why they left.

However, I was wondering since the backlog appears to be growing in pending catalog
items. Is there any information about how the catalog will be run in the future
or if there is an application process for new catalog admins in progress?

I might be interested in filling this position.

nordbart
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In General, Nordbart writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.

Hello there!

I recently found out that we don't have any CatMins at the moment. After
I checked what images and parts are pending approval, so I don't need to
add them myself.

That went totally under my radar! I only found this post and another post in
regards to the departure of the CatMins I knew. Which did an awesome job in the
past.

Anyway, I don't want to add any comment on why they left.

However, I was wondering since the backlog appears to be growing in pending catalog
items. Is there any information about how the catalog will be run in the future
or if there is an application process for new catalog admins in progress?

I might be interested in filling this position.

nordbart



When did Stormchaser unregister?
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In General, pitz8008 writes:
  In General, Nordbart writes:
  In General, Admin_Russell writes:
  I'll just add that the whole admin structure of the site is going to be overhauled
and the positions redefined. The current structure has served the site well through
some very difficult situations, but it is not without its flaws.

One of the things I personally would like to see is an inclusion of all our former
admins into a group of "admin emeriti" who could help counsel the site and perhaps
perform other specialized tasks if they were so inclined.

Too often the pattern we see is that an admin starts out in their position with
enthusiasm but then burns out after a few years. Then after leaving, they are
no longer active in any way with the catalog, and some abandon site activity
altogether.

So we'd really like to change that pattern, and we will pursue a situation
where the site can continue to benefit from those who have so much to offer.

Hello there!

I recently found out that we don't have any CatMins at the moment. After
I checked what images and parts are pending approval, so I don't need to
add them myself.

That went totally under my radar! I only found this post and another post in
regards to the departure of the CatMins I knew. Which did an awesome job in the
past.

Anyway, I don't want to add any comment on why they left.

However, I was wondering since the backlog appears to be growing in pending catalog
items. Is there any information about how the catalog will be run in the future
or if there is an application process for new catalog admins in progress?

I might be interested in filling this position.

nordbart



When did Stormchaser unregister?

I was wondering about that too
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In General, FigsNmore writes:

  I was wondering about that too

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1123830
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  When did Stormchaser unregister?

How did you miss this? It was pretty spectacular.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1123830
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Cheers Maggie and Ronald,

Thanks for all the hard work and I hope the love of the brick is still there!

Tyson.
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Goodbye catalog experts - you both were fantastic to work with!
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Thank you for everything that both of you have done for us. Your hard work is
extremely appreciated.

It is sad that you both left. The reason we will probably never know, but 2 admins
who leave at the same time never sounds good. That's how it feels at least.
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.


Maggie and Ronald,
Thank you so much for the countless hours you have both poured into this site!
You have both been a tremendous blessing to a lot of people.

Thank you!
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

They have done a fantastic job, not easy to say the least. They have made it
possible for all to sell here. They must be respected for the dedication to
this almost impossible task. I appreciate their ACOD about parts and sets and
getting everything correct. This site would not be the same without them in
their jobs here and will not be the same as they leave.
John P
 
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In General, legoman77 writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

They have done a fantastic job, not easy to say the least. They have made it
possible for all to sell here. They must be respected for the dedication to
this almost impossible task. I appreciate their ACOD about parts and sets and
getting everything correct. This site would not be the same without them in
their jobs here and will not be the same as they leave.
John P


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When I started on BL (first half year as a buyer, and then as a seller), the
catalog was daunting. So many parts! So many variants! Maintaining order and
trying to grow the catalog is no easy task. I can only take off my hat and bow
for the people that worked tirelessly in getting the catalog to where it is.
Thank you Maggie and Ronald for your work and dedication.

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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.

+1 Thank you so much Maggie and Ronald.
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 Posted: Dec 18, 2018 18:11
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In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.


Thanks so much for all you have done. This definitely puts things in perspective,
almost feels like a part of BL has perished.
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 Posted: Dec 18, 2018 20:13
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In General, mwright5 writes:
  In General, StormChaser writes:
  I don't imagine the site plans to make an announcement about this, but I
will. Maggie and Ronald are no longer catalog administrators as of today.

Maggie was appointed on March 23rd, 2004. She has served the BrickLink community
for longer than nearly any other administrator, paid or not, in the site's
history. She has held the catalog together through many changes of all kinds
and has done a spectacular job during her 14+ years as catalog administrator.

Ronald was appointed on April 18th, 2009. He has served the community for over
nine years and this was the second-longest time for a catalog administrator after
Maggie. He has also done a fantastic job of making sure the catalog functions
well for all of us.

I have met Maggie and Ronald in person and they are both warm, caring people
to whom I feel anyone who has used this website owes a bit of gratitude for the
countless hours of their own time they have contributed to the BrickLink catalog.

They have seen the catalog through the death of its founder and subsequent changes
in management, several site-wide updates, and many changes in LEGO products over
the years. They have also repeatedly advocated for functional updates to make
the catalog better for us, both publicly and behind the scenes.

I respect both of them immensely and I have learned nearly everything I know
about the catalog from them. I hope that each of you reading this will take
a moment to let Maggie and Ronald know how much you appreciate everything they
have done for us.


Thanks so much for all you have done. This definitely puts things in perspective,
almost feels like a part of BL has perished.


Thanks both,
As the first post says " none else will say it" we will never know why, I'm
sure you both have too much integrity to tell us, BL won't tell us,
they are not renowned for their explanations.........
you will be missed, Thank You...........

Karma is huge, as my dear old Mam always said "it all comes out in the wash"

take care, thank you, I hope you will both still be around

Alex
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Thank You for all you have done to make this a fantastic site.