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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Dec 12, 2018 18:32
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8272-1
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normann1974 (2291)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8272  Name: Snowmobile
* 
8272-1 (Inv) Snowmobile
331 Parts, 2007
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 2 Part 78c07 Red Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 7L (Counterpart)
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray {2739 Technic, Link 1 x 6 - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Inner Ring Ends Version) to 2739b Technic, Link 1 x 6 with Stoppers}

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Source: MISB-based set that was never mixed with other bricks. My set has link with stoppers. I'm also adding two counterparts, because the instructions instructs the user to cut the hose in two halves (page 63). I'm not sure if this is the correct way to do it on BrickLink, but any used set would most likely never include a 14L hose, but two 7L hoses. As previously discussed for another set, it's my belief that the 2L hoses are PLG, not flat silver. They seem to have the same color as the bionicle teeth which are PLG in this set. But a change of this is likely to be rejected, I'll not do it here but only leave my thoughts on it.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 02:22
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8272-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  As previously discussed for another set, it's my belief that the 2L hoses are PLG, not
flat silver. They seem to have the same color as the bionicle teeth which are PLG in
this set. But a change of this is likely to be rejected, I'll not do it here but only
leave my thoughts on it.

Why would you say it would be rejected? I would be more than happy to look into
this before making any determination.

Could you post a picture of the hoses from this set next to the Bionicle teeth
from this set? I may not be considered one of the resident color experts, but
I do know my LEGO colors quite well. In the meantime, I will search the intertubes
for other data points.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 16:17
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8272-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  As previously discussed for another set, it's my belief that the 2L hoses are PLG, not
flat silver. They seem to have the same color as the bionicle teeth which are PLG in
this set. But a change of this is likely to be rejected, I'll not do it here but only
leave my thoughts on it.

Why would you say it would be rejected? I would be more than happy to look into
this before making any determination.

Could you post a picture of the hoses from this set next to the Bionicle teeth
from this set? I may not be considered one of the resident color experts, but
I do know my LEGO colors quite well. In the meantime, I will search the intertubes
for other data points.

Cheers,
Randy

Because the last time I discussed this regarding the color of hoses, we never
came to an agreeement. The admin would rather base the BL inventory on an official
TLG product photo than on actually bricks found in a lot of bricks where the
hoses could only have come from the particular set in question (matching both
length and "twistedness"). One of the last things that were written were "Further,
there is some debate over whether PLG and flat silver are officially different
colors or merely variations in what TLG intended to be the same color." So I
chose to stop the discussion there rather than wasting everybody's time.
Here's a link to the discussion:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234514

Anyway, I have to withdraw my claim in this thread, because I just compared with
Flat Silver hoses in my stock and PLG hoses from set 8637 (I still claim that
these are PLG) and the two hoses from this are definitely Flat Silver, not PLG.
So no change there, please.

/Jan
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 16:25
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8272-1
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  One of the last things that were written were "Further,
there is some debate over whether PLG and flat silver are officially different
colors or merely variations in what TLG intended to be the same color." So I
chose to stop the discussion there rather than wasting everybody's time.

We do intend to address the issue of the differences between these colors when
we launch the project on colors. It is possible that pearl light gray and flat
silver will be combined into a single color, but we can discuss it further at
that time.

Until then, I see (and saw) little point in changing PLG parts to flat silver
parts and vice versa. If we combine the colors, then it's just a waste of
time to do inventory changing now from either color to the other.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 19:05
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In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  As previously discussed for another set, it's my belief that the 2L hoses are PLG, not
flat silver. They seem to have the same color as the bionicle teeth which are PLG in
this set. But a change of this is likely to be rejected, I'll not do it here but only
leave my thoughts on it.

Why would you say it would be rejected? I would be more than happy to look into
this before making any determination.

Could you post a picture of the hoses from this set next to the Bionicle teeth
from this set? I may not be considered one of the resident color experts, but
I do know my LEGO colors quite well. In the meantime, I will search the intertubes
for other data points.

Cheers,
Randy

Because the last time I discussed this regarding the color of hoses, we never
came to an agreeement. The admin would rather base the BL inventory on an official
TLG product photo than on actually bricks found in a lot of bricks where the
hoses could only have come from the particular set in question (matching both
length and "twistedness"). One of the last things that were written were "Further,
there is some debate over whether PLG and flat silver are officially different
colors or merely variations in what TLG intended to be the same color." So I
chose to stop the discussion there rather than wasting everybody's time.
Here's a link to the discussion:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234514

I would never base any decisions on official set photos. They are notorious for
being wrong in many instances.

  Anyway, I have to withdraw my claim in this thread, because I just compared with
Flat Silver hoses in my stock and PLG hoses from set 8637 (I still claim that
these are PLG) and the two hoses from this are definitely Flat Silver, not PLG.
So no change there, please.

No problem. However, I did find evidence from many unboxings of this set that
the hoses - in this set, at least - could be either the lighter PLG or the darker
Flat Silver.

Cheers,
Randy