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 Author: Andy_Bell View Messages Posted By Andy_Bell
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 11:36
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color
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 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 11:58
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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In Inventories Requests, Andy_Bell writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color

As I see 2412a (without groove) was spotted in sets till 1997. In 1994 it is
reported from 7 sets less than "b" variant but still founded. "b" variant was
first notice in 1990. So this set is in mold change period so it is possible
that there could be copies od this set with "a" or "b" variant. Red one "a" is
noted
still in 1994 sets.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 12:01
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Andy_Bell writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color

As I see 2412a (without groove) was spotted in sets till 1997. In 1994 it is
reported from 7 sets less than "b" variant but still founded. "b" variant was
first notice in 1990. So this set is in mold change period so it is possible
that there could be copies od this set with "a" or "b" variant. Red one "a" is
noted
still in 1994 sets.

P.S.
Check also this message and thread why we do not change such variants in mold
change timeline so simply without having reliable proof
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103817
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 13:56
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Andy_Bell writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color

As I see 2412a (without groove) was spotted in sets till 1997. In 1994 it is
reported from 7 sets less than "b" variant but still founded. "b" variant was
first notice in 1990. So this set is in mold change period so it is possible
that there could be copies od this set with "a" or "b" variant. Red one "a" is
noted
still in 1994 sets.

P.S.
Check also this message and thread why we do not change such variants in mold
change timeline so simply without having reliable proof
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103817

I forget to write this sentence in first post
"Set images, box images and instruction are not good source for checking parts
variants. Do you have proof from more reliable source?"



When searching for better proofs to this change request I found this (photo attached).
I know this is no proof according to our standards for aproving parts variants
requests, just used set from auction site could be easly tampered, missing parts
replaced without knowledge of parts variants, but there are both variants for
blue of this part Just wanted to show that it is not so simple. Better proof
for it would be from sealed one (this could be hard to found) or for example
also from own collection where is submiter (owner of set) certain that parts
weren't never messed with other sets and he bought it as sealed one personaly
even many years ago. Such proof also could be considered as good and accepted.
 


 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 14:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Andy_Bell writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color

As I see 2412a (without groove) was spotted in sets till 1997. In 1994 it is
reported from 7 sets less than "b" variant but still founded. "b" variant was
first notice in 1990. So this set is in mold change period so it is possible
that there could be copies od this set with "a" or "b" variant. Red one "a" is
noted
still in 1994 sets.

P.S.
Check also this message and thread why we do not change such variants in mold
change timeline so simply without having reliable proof
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103817

I forget to write this sentence in first post
"Set images, box images and instruction are not good source for checking parts
variants. Do you have proof from more reliable source?"



When searching for better proofs to this change request I found this (photo attached).
I know this is no proof according to our standards for aproving parts variants
requests, just used set from auction site could be easly tampered, missing parts
replaced without knowledge of parts variants, but there are both variants for
blue of this part Just wanted to show that it is not so simple. Better proof
for it would be from sealed one (this could be hard to found) or for example
also from own collection where is submiter (owner of set) certain that parts
weren't never messed with other sets and he bought it as sealed one personaly
even many years ago. Such proof also could be considered as good and accepted.

Hi

chekck Brickshelf, MISB one goes open, -b type, box (c)1994:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268725

I think the transition is already done, only sets that were available with the
-a type got in an update -b type.


I would go for the -b type change only.


Stefaan
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Nov 23, 2018 14:24
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6537-1
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In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Andy_Bell writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6537  Name: Hydro Racer
* 
6537-1 (Inv) Hydro Racer
44 Parts, 1 Minifig, 1994
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Race: Harbor

* Delete 2 Part 2412 Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Delete 2 Part 2412 Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille (undetermined type)
* Add 2 Part 2412b Red Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip
* Add 2 Part 2412b Blue Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grille with Bottom Groove / Lip

Comments from Submitter:
- the grooves can be seen on the set image on the box and instructions - plus this is about 6 years after the grooved version was introduced, in a common color

As I see 2412a (without groove) was spotted in sets till 1997. In 1994 it is
reported from 7 sets less than "b" variant but still founded. "b" variant was
first notice in 1990. So this set is in mold change period so it is possible
that there could be copies od this set with "a" or "b" variant. Red one "a" is
noted
still in 1994 sets.

P.S.
Check also this message and thread why we do not change such variants in mold
change timeline so simply without having reliable proof
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1103817

I forget to write this sentence in first post
"Set images, box images and instruction are not good source for checking parts
variants. Do you have proof from more reliable source?"



When searching for better proofs to this change request I found this (photo attached).
I know this is no proof according to our standards for aproving parts variants
requests, just used set from auction site could be easly tampered, missing parts
replaced without knowledge of parts variants, but there are both variants for
blue of this part Just wanted to show that it is not so simple. Better proof
for it would be from sealed one (this could be hard to found) or for example
also from own collection where is submiter (owner of set) certain that parts
weren't never messed with other sets and he bought it as sealed one personaly
even many years ago. Such proof also could be considered as good and accepted.

Hi

chekck Brickshelf, MISB one goes open, -b type, box (c)1994:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=268725

I think the transition is already done, only sets that were available with the
-a type got in an update -b type.


I would go for the -b type change only.


Stefaan

Thanks Stefaan, I appreciate this, my searches weren't sucesfull.

Change request will now be approved based on this proof.

Just in case I'm also adding some picture from above link here to preserve
for future reference.