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 Author: samsam2 View Messages Posted By samsam2
 Posted: Nov 13, 2018 14:36
 Subject: door 87653 pairing incorrect
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samsam2 (944)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Store: Stratford Bricks
Please change door pairing
 
Part No: 87653  Name: Duplo Door 1 x 4 Wooden Gate with Handle
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87653 Duplo Door 1 x 4 Wooden Gate with Handle
Parts: Duplo
to match #507 and not match #2367
 Author: samsam2 View Messages Posted By samsam2
 Posted: Nov 13, 2018 14:41
 Subject: Re: door 87653 pairing incorrect
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I should qualify and say that it may match #2367, my concern is that is also
matches #507

In Catalog Requests, samsam2 writes:
  Please change door pairing
 
Part No: 87653  Name: Duplo Door 1 x 4 Wooden Gate with Handle
* 
87653 Duplo Door 1 x 4 Wooden Gate with Handle
Parts: Duplo
to match #507 and not match #2367
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 13, 2018 14:57
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In Catalog Requests, samsam2 writes:
  I should qualify and say that it may match #2367, my concern is that is also
matches #507

Yes, that is indeed the case, and there is also a third relationship match it
could be added to. I just checked and as best I can determine an item can only
exist in one relationship match at a time. I have added an additional note to
this door and, since that is the best I can do because of system limitations,
I have marked your request as completed.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 13, 2018 17:22
 Subject: Re: door 87653 pairing incorrect
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SylvainLS (32)

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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, samsam2 writes:
  I should qualify and say that it may match #2367, my concern is that is also
matches #507

Yes, that is indeed the case, and there is also a third relationship match it
could be added to. I just checked and as best I can determine an item can only
exist in one relationship match at a time. I have added an additional note to
this door and, since that is the best I can do because of system limitations,
I have marked your request as completed.

Wheels/tires and windows+doors/frames have more than one.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 14, 2018 02:33
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In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  Wheels/tires and windows+doors/frames have more than one.

None have more than one match within the same relationship, or at least none
of which I am aware. Yes, items can be matched in multiple relationships. This
one, for example:

 
Part No: 4181pb001  Name: Door 1 x 4 x 5 Train Left with Green Stripe, Train Logo and Rivets Pattern
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4181pb001 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Train Left with Green Stripe, Train Logo and Rivets Pattern
Parts: Door, Decorated

It is joined with a window/glass relationship and a paired part relationship.
But I could not pair it with another part now that it already has one paired
part match. If you know of any instance of an item having two or more identical
matches with different relationship match IDs, then please name one of them.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 14, 2018 07:55
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SylvainLS (32)

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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  Wheels/tires and windows+doors/frames have more than one.

None have more than one match within the same relationship, or at least none
of which I am aware. Yes, items can be matched in multiple relationships. This
one, for example:

 
Part No: 4181pb001  Name: Door 1 x 4 x 5 Train Left with Green Stripe, Train Logo and Rivets Pattern
* 
4181pb001 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Train Left with Green Stripe, Train Logo and Rivets Pattern
Parts: Door, Decorated

It is joined with a window/glass relationship and a paired part relationship.
But I could not pair it with another part now that it already has one paired
part match. If you know of any instance of an item having two or more identical
matches with different relationship match IDs, then please name one of them.

Sorry to have exasperated you, I was (and am) just trying to understand.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 14, 2018 12:44
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In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  Sorry to have exasperated you, I was (and am) just trying to understand.

To exasperate means to irritate intensely or infuriate. There was nothing in
my response which should have led you to believe that I was either irritated
or infuriated.

I was merely explaining my understanding of item relationships and asking for
an example of an item which existed in two identical relationships (because I
don't know everything and I have been wrong before ).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  Sorry to have exasperated you, I was (and am) just trying to understand.

To exasperate means to irritate intensely or infuriate. There was nothing in
my response which should have led you to believe that I was either irritated
or infuriated.

I was merely explaining my understanding of item relationships and asking for
an example of an item which existed in two identical relationships (because I
don't know everything and I have been wrong before ).

Sorry to have misread you but then I think you are a bit hyperbolic on the intensity
of exasperate. At least it’s not the way I read the wiktionary entry for this
verb ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/exasperate ). Something can be exasperating
without triggering a Yosemite-Sam reaction.


The problem I have understanding you is you keep talking about relationships
in general but seem to say things that don’t apply to all relationships.

A “fits in/with” relationship is multiple: the same wheel fits in multiple tires,
and the same tire around multiple wheels. And the catalogue shows that.
So there you have plenty of examples of an item that exists in (more than) two
identical relationships.

But as those examples are obvious, you can’t be talking about “any” relationship.
Therefore you must be talking about,

1/ wanting to make “ménage à trois” relationships: (A and B and C fit together),
not (A fits B) + (A fits C) + (B fits C). But I don’t see any such need¹ or
why having the three relations would be much different, at least in the way they
are shown on the parts’ pages.

2/ or the special(?) “pair” relationship. But then, “pair” implies two and that
kind of relationship is mainly for left-right / bilateral exclusive relationships.
No ménages à trois there either.


¹ By the way, I don’t know the particular part(s) that started this thread, and
I can’t (don’t know how to) easily see or search for relationship match ids,
I can only see them in the lists (e.g. https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=3&catID=43
), so my understanding is even more limited here.