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| | | Author: | WhiteVanMan  | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 12:46 | | Subject: | Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi all.
Most of you may not know this but I believe that the mugs selection in the 'Gear'
category doesn't do it justice, as 90% of those images are not quite good
enough to see the whole design of the mugs fully.
I propose that the mugs selection to be allowed to have 3 images maximum, which
will allow the mugs to be displayed fully, and that the whole design can be seen.
I am willing to submit at least 60+ mugs to the catalogue, but it will be difficult
to show the mugs off if I'm limited to 1 picture.
Can this suggestion be implemented?
Cheers,
Paul
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 13:12 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | I propose that the mugs selection to be allowed to have 3 images maximum, which
will allow the mugs to be displayed fully, and that the whole design can be seen.
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| | Can this suggestion be implemented?
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Any item in the catalog can already have multiple additional images. If there
is a maximum number of images possible, then I'm not aware of it. I have
moved your post from Suggestions to Catalog.
To show you that this is already possible, I've drawn a very crude 2 and
3 over the image for this item and uploaded each as additional images (I will
delete them soon, so check them out quickly):
The only caveat is that you must upload additional images for a specific catalog
entry one at a time and wait for each to be approved before you can upload the
next.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | I propose that the mugs selection to be allowed to have 3 images maximum, which
will allow the mugs to be displayed fully, and that the whole design can be seen.
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| | Can this suggestion be implemented?
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Any item in the catalog can already have multiple additional images. If there
is a maximum number of images possible, then I'm not aware of it. I have
moved your post from Suggestions to Catalog.
To show you that this is already possible, I've drawn a very crude 2 and
3 over the image for this item and uploaded each as additional images (I will
delete them soon, so check them out quickly):
The only caveat is that you must upload additional images for a specific catalog
entry one at a time and wait for each to be approved before you can upload the
next.
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Ok,
I see now.
So, for each mug I add to the catalogue, I have to upload the 'main'
image, and then when that's done, the additional '2' and '3'
afterwards...
I can live with that.
However, I see that there are a few mugs that are already in the catalogue, but
as I have those mugs, would my images supersede those? (or shall I take pictures
of the sides not showing instead?)
Paul
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | So, for each mug I add to the catalogue, I have to upload the 'main'
image, and then when that's done, the additional '2' and '3'
afterwards...
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Yes, but one at a time. So you upload the second image and wait for it to be
approved. Once it is, then upload the third image. Or fourth, fifth, etc.
| | However, I see that there are a few mugs that are already in the catalogue, but
as I have those mugs, would my images supersede those? (or shall I take pictures
of the sides not showing instead?)
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If your pictures are better, then we can replace the main image with yours and
either relegate the current image to an alternate image or delete it. If you're
going to make yourself a project out of these mugs, then I suggest you take pictures
which are uniform (same angle, same lighting), large, clear, well-lit, and on
a completely white background.
The images mfav takes are the gold standard for images. You can see what I'm
talking about in the images of these hinge assemblies (he took most of them):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=3937*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W
Thanks for doing this, BTW. 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 15:49 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
| | So, for each mug I add to the catalogue, I have to upload the 'main'
image, and then when that's done, the additional '2' and '3'
afterwards...
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Yes, but one at a time. So you upload the second image and wait for it to be
approved. Once it is, then upload the third image. Or fourth, fifth, etc.
| | However, I see that there are a few mugs that are already in the catalogue, but
as I have those mugs, would my images supersede those? (or shall I take pictures
of the sides not showing instead?)
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If your pictures are better, then we can replace the main image with yours and
either relegate the current image to an alternate image or delete it. If you're
going to make yourself a project out of these mugs, then I suggest you take pictures
which are uniform (same angle, same lighting), large, clear, well-lit, and on
a completely white background.
The images mfav takes are the gold standard for images. You can see what I'm
talking about in the images of these hinge assemblies (he took most of them):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=3937*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W
Thanks for doing this, BTW.
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White background?
Hmm....
Most of the mugs are in white, which will make it hard to see the 'inside'
of them as this sometimes has a small design on the inside....
I'll submit 1 image of one on a White, and then another on a Black, and maybe
you can let me know which is best?
I feel a black background would be best as the colours will stand out better.
Paul
(I have an ulterior motive about doing this as I want to do a FB page showing
the collection in it's glory...)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 16:07 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I'll submit 1 image of one on a White, and then another on a Black, and maybe
you can let me know which is best?
I feel a black background would be best as the colours will stand out better.
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Quick tips:
Shooting white on white will give you better results than white on black. Shooting
white on black will most likely push the contrast such that the subtleties in
the white range get blown out.
Light gray would also be an okay way to go.
If your'e camera savvy, put the camera on a tripod and go with a fairly long
exposure, maybe 1-2 seconds with a small aperture (f22 or higher) under daylight
lights. Your actual settings may vary, but generally long exposure, small aperture,
balanced light. If you only have one light, you might want to use a "white card"
to reflect light back onto the object from the side opposite the light source.
You definitely want a tripod or something to hold the camera still. Use the timer
or a remote trigger to take the shot, otherwise there will be camera wiggle causing
the shot to blur.
The camera on auto settings probably will make the whole shot "gray" as the internal
programming of the camera is set to achieve a particular light balance overall.
You probably will need to manually adjust the exposure to compensate for the
overall "too white" of the shot.
If the camera has a histogram, adjust exposure so the "mountains" to be on the
right side of the graph. Bracket exposures, pick the best shot.
If you want to finesse it, let me know.
M
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 16:17 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | | | I'll submit 1 image of one on a White, and then another on a Black, and maybe
you can let me know which is best?
I feel a black background would be best as the colours will stand out better.
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Quick tips:
Shooting white on white will give you better results than white on black. Shooting
white on black will most likely push the contrast such that the subtleties in
the white range get blown out.
Light gray would also be an okay way to go.
If your'e camera savvy, put the camera on a tripod and go with a fairly long
exposure, maybe 1-2 seconds with a small aperture (f22 or higher) under daylight
lights. Your actual settings may vary, but generally long exposure, small aperture,
balanced light. If you only have one light, you might want to use a "white card"
to reflect light back onto the object from the side opposite the light source.
You definitely want a tripod or something to hold the camera still. Use the timer
or a remote trigger to take the shot, otherwise there will be camera wiggle causing
the shot to blur.
The camera on auto settings probably will make the whole shot "gray" as the internal
programming of the camera is set to achieve a particular light balance overall.
You probably will need to manually adjust the exposure to compensate for the
overall "too white" of the shot.
If the camera has a histogram, adjust exposure so the "mountains" to be on the
right side of the graph. Bracket exposures, pick the best shot.
If you want to finesse it, let me know.
M
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Hahahaha..........hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
I'm sorry, but I have no idea as to what you have said because NONE of it
makes any sense to me, because I'm just using my Samsung Mobile Phone camera
to upload these images that I can take. (not computer or camera savvy at all)
it was a struggle for me to be able to re-size images to a point where they
could get uploaded...
Thank you for trying to help me in this, as I'd LOVE to take good quality
images, but I'm limited to what tools I have...
Paul
(Just uploaded one for a pink mug on a black background)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | blockbuster | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 16:19 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | mfav | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 16:59 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Just uploaded one for a pink mug on a black background
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okay.
biggest issue: not enough light.
the light is too close to the cup, move it away
use a light color background
add a second light on the opposite side of the cup, not exactly opposite as in
180 degrees, but something like 120 degrees. look through the camera, if there
are spots that are very sharply white and obscure the art, then adjust the position
of the lights.
position the camera less "over the top" of the cup
attached, two shots with cell phone. note the one with the dark background has
harsh light on handle and lip of cup. this is what you want to try to avoid.
try positioning lights as shown in sketch.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteVanMan | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2018 17:03 | | Subject: | Re: Images for mugs | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, mfav writes:
| | | | Just uploaded one for a pink mug on a black background
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okay.
biggest issue: not enough light.
the light is too close to the cup, move it away
use a light color background
add a second light on the opposite side of the cup, not exactly opposite as in
180 degrees, but something like 120 degrees. look through the camera, if there
are spots that are very sharply white and obscure the art, then adjust the position
of the lights.
position the camera less "over the top" of the cup
attached, two shots with cell phone. note the one with the dark background has
harsh light on handle and lip of cup. this is what you want to try to avoid.
try positioning lights as shown in sketch.
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Ah.... I see now, and yes, you have pointed out issues that even I can see...
I'll see if I can get something sorted tomorrow, as I can angle 4 lights
into a spot above my work table. (need to clear that first)
Watch this space!
Paul
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