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 Author: Build_Zone View Messages Posted By Build_Zone
 Posted: Oct 4, 2018 23:18
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.


What is wrong with those sellers here:/ I am new seller but I'm not hiding
anything if i want add handling fee so I'll say for what if i have the reason
to do it. Some orders can be big for example but everything else in my store
is negotiable. Sellers please care about your customers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 00:17
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MidwestBrick (1855)

Location:  USA, Wisconsin
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.+

I understand your frustration. There are some sellers with so much going on
in their terms that I X out and never go back. But there are many more sellers
here that are straight forward, simple, and quick to pull, invoice, and ship.


As a seller myself, I believe my store is easy to understand, has a quote section
available, and I respond to inquiries quickly.

I can only suggest to weed out the stores you do not like and find the diamonds
in the rough that work for you. There are many out there to choose from. Best
of luck!
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 02:37
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StarBrick (7056)

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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 03:36
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SezaR (1376)

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So frustrating.

Read first their terms. Most good sellers do have good and clear terms and nice
feedback. I know many of them.
By taking a quick look at terms, you can know if it is a good store or not.
I have found good stores and nice sellers. Honestly, the quality of Lego and
service you get on BL is much better than on Ebay where most sellers don't
know much about Lego.
Good luck.

In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.
 Author: Bricks_NW_UK View Messages Posted By Bricks_NW_UK
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 05:46
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Bricks_NW_UK (1366)

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As a seller your terms should be clear and transparent. I don't get this
"lot" charge business to be honest. I sometimes think it is a case of sellers
offering silly discounts and recouping their money through these fees. it could
also be a way of avoiding BL fees!

For our part, we charge Royal Mail rates plus a nominal amount to cover packaging
& printing cost, and don't have any minimum order sizes.

It is all about transparency and honesty!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 06:01
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yorbrick (1181)

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In Suggestions, Bricks_NW_UK writes:
  As a seller your terms should be clear and transparent. I don't get this
"lot" charge business to be honest. I sometimes think it is a case of sellers
offering silly discounts and recouping their money through these fees. it could
also be a way of avoiding BL fees!

For our part, we charge Royal Mail rates plus a nominal amount to cover packaging
& printing cost, and don't have any minimum order sizes.

It is all about transparency and honesty!

Lot minimums are there to ensure that sellers can offer good prices, but not
be picking orders consisting of 100s of lots, each of a single 1p part. Now sellers
can easily input lot minimums, and these are shown to buyers, so any extra lot-related
fees not declared this way should be banned.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 05:32
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Teup (6586)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.


A size restriction sounds ridiculous, I never saw that... How can a buyer possibly
anticipate this? There's no way of knowing how big your order is going to
be, nor is it the job of the buyer to be a mathematician even if it was. I think
sellers should have shipping methods ready for all sizes.

But sounds like the lot average problem could actually be fixed by Bricklink
itself. If they flag stores who use it properly, it will solve this frustration
instantly for every store that uses it. And is this lot average indicated in
the listings, in the same way that minimum order is? I really think it should
be.
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 06:08
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Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

  A size restriction sounds ridiculous, I never saw that... How can a buyer possibly
anticipate this? There's no way of knowing how big your order is going to
be, nor is it the job of the buyer to be a mathematician even if it was. I think
sellers should have shipping methods ready for all sizes.

But sounds like the lot average problem could actually be fixed by Bricklink
itself. If they flag stores who use it properly, it will solve this frustration
instantly for every store that uses it. And is this lot average indicated in
the listings, in the same way that minimum order is? I really think it should
be.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

This is where IC could be improved. The current postage cost could be displayed
when in the store and get updated after each addition, and flagged up if an item
is included that stops the IC working. This is pretty much how it works on BO
- it is great to see if adding one part increases the postage costs, you can
then decide whether the real cost for that part is worth it.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

This is where IC could be improved. The current postage cost could be displayed
when in the store and get updated after each addition, and flagged up if an item
is included that stops the IC working. This is pretty much how it works on BO
- it is great to see if adding one part increases the postage costs, you can
then decide whether the real cost for that part is worth it.

And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.
 Author: Abels_Bricks View Messages Posted By Abels_Bricks
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 07:42
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Location:  United Kingdom, Scotland
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

This is where IC could be improved. The current postage cost could be displayed
when in the store and get updated after each addition, and flagged up if an item
is included that stops the IC working. This is pretty much how it works on BO
- it is great to see if adding one part increases the postage costs, you can
then decide whether the real cost for that part is worth it.

And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.

The best thing that Bricklink could do and I am amazed that BL has not done this.

A sandbox for sellers to test postage options.

This would allow us all to check out settings and tweak them to make sure they
are correct for the way we want to sell.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: Oct 5, 2018 10:46
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In Suggestions, Abels_Bricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

This is where IC could be improved. The current postage cost could be displayed
when in the store and get updated after each addition, and flagged up if an item
is included that stops the IC working. This is pretty much how it works on BO
- it is great to see if adding one part increases the postage costs, you can
then decide whether the real cost for that part is worth it.

And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.

The best thing that Bricklink could do and I am amazed that BL has not done this.

A sandbox for sellers to test postage options.

This would allow us all to check out settings and tweak them to make sure they
are correct for the way we want to sell.


I love this idea. I still don't have my shipping the way I'd like, mainly
because I can't see what the buyer is seeing.

I'm no dummy and I've shipped thousands of packages on 2 other platforms
before coming here and found setting up shipping to be quite difficult. This
site is not intuitive, but I suppose that weeds out most would be sellers, so
I can't complain too much.
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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I grow tired of reading the old "it's not rocket science" argument, as if
it somehow substantiates a person's claim.

  And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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So, you are saying it is difficult. We're talking about sellers here, people
who decide that they can handle selling Lego. Not every person who signs up on
Bricklink has to understand how to set up shipping methods. But I think it is
only fair that for the small portion of those members who really are serious
enough to get into selling, it should be expected of them that they're able
to handle it. If they're not, they should either ask for help or just use
some other way to sell Lego that they do understand (In fact, I think setting
things up at Brickowl is easier than at BL.)


In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I grow tired of reading the old "it's not rocket science" argument, as if
it somehow substantiates a person's claim.

  And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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No, I'm simply stating that the "rocket science" argument is flawed. It
implies that you don't need the intellect of a very scientific person, as
if said person has the capacity to know how to do everything very well.

In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  So, you are saying it is difficult. We're talking about sellers here, people
who decide that they can handle selling Lego. Not every person who signs up on
Bricklink has to understand how to set up shipping methods. But I think it is
only fair that for the small portion of those members who really are serious
enough to get into selling, it should be expected of them that they're able
to handle it. If they're not, they should either ask for help or just use
some other way to sell Lego that they do understand (In fact, I think setting
things up at Brickowl is easier than at BL.)


In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I grow tired of reading the old "it's not rocket science" argument, as if
it somehow substantiates a person's claim.
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  No, I'm simply stating that the "rocket science" argument is flawed. It
implies that you don't need the intellect of a very scientific person, as
if said person has the capacity to know how to do everything very well.

Er, no. The “rocket science” argument means it’s intellectually difficult and
outside the capabilities of average people. It doesn’t imply that the person
should be very scientific, just very intelligent. And it doesn’t imply a “rocket
scientist” would have the capacity to know to do everything very well, just rockets.
The same argument is often rendered as “it’s not brain surgery.”

If you think a task needs someone with rare abilities, then it is “rocket science.”
Otherwise, that means you think anyone could do the task, and then “it’s not
rocket science” applies.
Well, you could also think that it both doesn’t need someone with rare abilities
but it also demands attention and time. Then, it’s both not “rocket science”
and not “not rocket science”
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  No, I'm simply stating that the "rocket science" argument is flawed. It
implies that you don't need the intellect of a very scientific person, as
if said person has the capacity to know how to do everything very well.

Er, no. The “rocket science” argument means it’s intellectually difficult and
outside the capabilities of average people. It doesn’t imply that the person
should be very scientific, just very intelligent. And it doesn’t imply a “rocket
scientist” would have the capacity to know to do everything very well, just rockets.
The same argument is often rendered as “it’s not brain surgery.”

If you think a task needs someone with rare abilities, then it is “rocket science.”
Otherwise, that means you think anyone could do the task, and then “it’s not
rocket science” applies.
Well, you could also think that it both doesn’t need someone with rare abilities
but it also demands attention and time. Then, it’s both not “rocket science”
and not “not rocket science”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  […]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

Perfect
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Instant checkout isn't so simple. You can think you have all bases covered,
but later discover something that prevents a buyer from ordering.

In addition, we have no way to test our setup or see a buyer's cart to troubleshoot
an issue.

I use instant checkout, though I would never recommend, as I'm certain to
have lost orders because of it not functioning quite right.

This is where IC could be improved. The current postage cost could be displayed
when in the store and get updated after each addition, and flagged up if an item
is included that stops the IC working. This is pretty much how it works on BO
- it is great to see if adding one part increases the postage costs, you can
then decide whether the real cost for that part is worth it.

And I think on the seller's side of the interface, it should also warn that
not all weight/volume/value/country combinations are covered. I think it's
the sellers responsibility to make sure that they have it all covered, it's
not rocket science. But it is true it takes some concentration and staring at
the screen to make sure everything is OK, so an algorythm that checks if there
are no holes sounds like exactly the type of thing we have computers for.

Yes, seems sensible to me.

It might also be a good idea to flag any parts that do not have dimensions or
similar, as that seems to be a fairly common complaint for getting postage calculations
wrong (especially for large minifigures). That way, the seller could be prompted
to input the data for all to use, or do the workaround so IC cannot apply to
an order with that part.
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  Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions.

Did you not look at the top of the screen by the cart when you were in the store?
It should identify the minimum buy and the lot average price needed to check
out. BL has made changes so that these restrictions are made clear.
 Author: LearnedBrick View Messages Posted By LearnedBrick
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.

Sorry to hear that. Certain stores have their reasons for their restrictions
and terms, and your frustration and anger are valid but hopefully short-lived.

We have just one rule: Spend a dollar.

Spend a dollar, and I'll figure out the rest.

I hope you find a store that meets your needs.
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders

MMh yeha had the same again just now. Havent bought anything in a while cause
i couldnt bother the time it takes to setup an order so i get what i nee dfor
my projcts, just now i tried again and was happy that i had an store in the want
list buy thingy having almost everyhting. So i took my time created a few carts
wiht some additional stuff from other vendors and wanted to proceed, in the slection
it didnt say anything and accepted my order, then in cart overview there is suddenly
a: There is a problem you need to resolve. So i check it out and the large cart
of 50+ euro does not work out because of avg lot restrictions of 1,70€ ... oh
common, so half an hour for nothing, starting at zero again... sucks to a point
were i am not motivated enough to start again
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.

I feel you're pain. When I started out as just a buyer on bricklink I had
a hard time with the restrictions but it took my a little while to figure out
how to check the best stores out and ignore the ones that would not work for
me. I will never buy Lego parts on Ebay again.

When I became a seller I then understood restrictions much better Lot restrictions
made much more sense. I have spent hours pulling 1 and 2 single parts for orders
that the list of small parts were as long as both my arms! Is it fun, no it is
not. Do I make anything off those orders, most of the time no due to time spent
vs order cost. I do feel that this is the price I pay to sell my Lego and I don't
get those orders all the time so I suck it up and forge ahead because I want
return customers and most of the time I get that.

I do feel the quote function is not used enough. It should be used more get a
better idea of what you will pay as a whole and if you are good with it then
just hit accept and you don't have to go through and pull that order again
just buy it.

I have worked with some awesome sellers on Bricklink and found that most are
willing to work with you as long as you communicate with them. If they don't
communicate with you move on, but don't think you will get treated better
on Ebay this "a trap".

Sorry for the frustration, but hang in there!

SWG
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.

I wish the best of luck in your purchases over at the big-A and the big-E. As
a seller, those two are significantly more expensive to do business upon, and
I have to increase my prices to compensate. If you're OK with paying higher
prices, then perhaps we all should take note here. Thanks for the heads up.

Nita Rae
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In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+. The first had a shipping box size restriction I didn't see
until I was checking out and the seller did not respond to a query for a 'bypass'
in time to be useful. I bought what I wanted on Amazon instead. It will be
here day after tomorrow! Just now I put together another order of over 150 items,
spent 20 min, only to learn it had a ^%#^*^ LOT average of a dollar, and again,
I was required to ask for a bypass. Screw that. I don't have the time for
this nit-noid nonsense. So here's the suggestion: Price your stuff for
what you want and either make the restriction clear on the main page or can the
restrictions. As for me, I'm head for e-bay where I am sure I can get what
I want and where any restrictions are clear.

Sounds like you just needed to vent. Hopefully you'll stick around, I just
sent you a 20% off coupon for my store. I hope you'll stop by, I know you
will have a good experience. My only "restriction" is a minimum buy of $9.95,
this is enough to cover my overhead (baggies, shipping box, etc.) without any
additional nonsense fees. My shipping tables are clear and the rates are enforced
by instant checkout.

As others have said, not all stores play the kind of games you have described.
I can understand why sellers may want to impose lot fees--we have all had
those kinds of orders. What I don't understand is actually instituting them,
much less other fees. I even occasionally like receiving a high lot/low quantity
order, it ensures I never have to count higher than 5 when pulling any given
lot . If a store's inventory is well-organized such orders really shouldn't
present a headache. If you really love LEGO, you shouldn't mind a little
extra work to help out a fellow builder.
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  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+.
 
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In Suggestions, crazylegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+.

Why is there no like button for posts like this ?
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In Suggestions, crazylegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+.

People have different budgets and levels of disposable income. I am happy to
get a $30+ order, aren't you? Mocking the OP only reenforces his viewpoint,
so way to go, I guess.

Regardless of OP's budget, his complaint is has merit, I have felt the same
way shopping in some seller's stores.
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In Suggestions, chetzler writes:
  In Suggestions, crazylegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+.

People have different budgets and levels of disposable income. I am happy to
get a $30+ order, aren't you? Mocking the OP only reenforces his viewpoint,
so way to go, I guess.

Regardless of OP's budget, his complaint is has merit, I have felt the same
way shopping in some seller's stores.

+1
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In Suggestions, crazylegoman writes:
  In Suggestions, npl writes:
  Twice today I spent time making LARGE orders (two different vendors) for about
$30 or so USD+.

This is hilarious, but I do admit I'm happy to have a $30 non set order and
would consider it large. I honestly have made about 40+ orders here and don't
think I've ever spent $30 at once except when I was finishing a #6985 and
the parts were very expensive.


What I really find is when people are selling as HUGE LOT of lego online/craigslist
without pictures that some questioning reveals its like 3 lbs worth. That's
what it reminds me of.



Anyway, I see both sides,
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