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 Author: David892 View Messages Posted By David892
 Posted: Sep 22, 2018 14:17
 Subject: Alternate Version of set 6386? :O
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Good afternoon all,

I was rebuilding my 6386 (Police Command Station) set yesterday and to make sure
I had all the pieces I consulted the inventory. While building the model, I realised
that the inventory was not accurate and started double checking everything once
again. To my surprise, I had all the pieces listed on Bricklink but I just couldn't
complete the helicopter.

So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

Please see image attached.

My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

Thanks a lot!
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 22, 2018 15:16
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In Inventories, David892 writes:
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My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

For now, they are handled with the special Alternate group 99:
— add the Match ID 99 to the Regular parts that change¹ or that you don’t have
in your version,
— add the parts that change¹ or that are only in your version as Alternate with
a Match ID of 99,
— add a note.

(¹ If it’s just the quantity of a part that changes, the part is both present
as Regular and Alternate with different quantities.)

E.g. Wall-E has two versions, the neck having been made more stable
 
Set No: 21303  Name: WALL-E
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21303-1 (Inv) WALL-E
677 Parts, 2015
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): WALL-E
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Sep 22, 2018 15:18
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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In Inventories, David892 writes:
  So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

What is the part number printed on your copy of the set instructions? You will
find this on the front page at the lower right-hand corner of the complete set
image. Please post a photo or scan of this portion of the instructions showing
the number.

  My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

It has been documented. The set inventory has been updated with the changes
you found and an inventory note was added. And yes, it's not too terribly
uncommon. There are over 100 known sets from as recently as last year which
have been redesigned for various reasons while the set was still in production.

I have asked for BrickLink to give us the ability to find these sets in the catalog.
So far, though, nothing has happened with my request.
 Author: David892 View Messages Posted By David892
 Posted: Sep 22, 2018 21:21
 Subject: Re: Alternate Version of set 6386
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Good evening and thanks for the fast reply!

The number at the bottom right corner is 120499. See attached picture.

Great job on documenting the variation!
 
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
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In Inventories, David892 writes:
  Good evening and thanks for the fast reply!

The number at the bottom right corner is 120499. See attached picture.

Great job on documenting the variation!

Hi

Good found!
unfortunately, both versions have the same instructions code

Version on Peeron with the same code '120499':
http://peeron.com/scans/6386-1/1
http://peeron.com/scans/6386-1/3



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 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
 Posted: Sep 23, 2018 07:02
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, David892 writes:
  So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

What is the part number printed on your copy of the set instructions? You will
find this on the front page at the lower right-hand corner of the complete set
image. Please post a photo or scan of this portion of the instructions showing
the number.

  My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

It has been documented. The set inventory has been updated with the changes
you found and an inventory note was added. And yes, it's not too terribly
uncommon. There are over 100 known sets from as recently as last year which
have been redesigned for various reasons while the set was still in production.

I have asked for BrickLink to give us the ability to find these sets in the catalog.
So far, though, nothing has happened with my request.


Hi Robert

strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6386-1
on this page I get the '1':
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6386-1#T=I
the other MID are also different

a glitch?


Stefaan
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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In Inventories, elias3 writes:
  In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, David892 writes:
  So I spent another hour trying to figure this out and I finally found out
that my instructions were different!
. For the same set, my instructions were
telling me to use different pieces.

What is the part number printed on your copy of the set instructions? You will
find this on the front page at the lower right-hand corner of the complete set
image. Please post a photo or scan of this portion of the instructions showing
the number.

  My question to ou guys is how can we document this? And is this something that
you guys see all the time with older LEGO sets?

It has been documented. The set inventory has been updated with the changes
you found and an inventory note was added. And yes, it's not too terribly
uncommon. There are over 100 known sets from as recently as last year which
have been redesigned for various reasons while the set was still in production.

I have asked for BrickLink to give us the ability to find these sets in the catalog.
So far, though, nothing has happened with my request.


Hi Robert

strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6386-1
on this page I get the '1':
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6386-1#T=I
the other MID are also different

a glitch?


Stefaan

Interesting looks like in all inventories where "99" MID is used in this new
inventory page is is change to "1" MID. Checked only few from this list
https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333 for example
 
Set No: 75072  Name: ARC-170 Starfighter
* 
75072-1 (Inv) ARC-170 Starfighter
91 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Microfighters Series 2: Star Wars Episode 3
 
Set No: 75101  Name: First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
* 
75101-1 (Inv) First Order Special Forces TIE Fighter
501 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 7
 
Set No: 75882  Name: Ferrari FXX K & Development Center
* 
75882-1 (Inv) Ferrari FXX K & Development Center
476 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2017
Sets: SPEED CHAMPIONS
 
Set No: 31070  Name: Turbo Track Racer
* 
31070-1 (Inv) Turbo Track Racer
664 Parts, 2017
Sets: Creator: Model: Traffic
The same sitation as you described it.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Inventories, elias3 writes:
  strange, the '99' only viewable on this page:

  on this page I get the '1':

  the other MID are also different

  a glitch?

This is a bug on the newer inventory page which was reported some time ago.