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 Author: superadaptoid View Messages Posted By superadaptoid
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Minifig sh104 is incorrectly labelled as Power Man (Victor Alvarez). I don't
know where this confusion comes from, but this figure appears in the Ultimate
Spider-Man line that is based on the cartoon series of the same name. This is
what Power Man (Luke Cage) looks like in that cartoon. Victor Alvarez is a different
character that has only appeared in the comics and who has a similar appearance
to Luke in the cartoon. But officially and canonically, this is Luke Cage.

This distinction is important because Luke Cage is a very well known and popular
Marvel character that has appeared in several media including two seasons of
Netflix television, while Victor Alvarez is relatively obscure character that
has not been adapted into other media.
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.

In Suggestions, fuatecelik writes:
  Minifig sh104 is incorrectly labelled as Power Man (Victor Alvarez). I don't
know where this confusion comes from, but this figure appears in the Ultimate
Spider-Man line that is based on the cartoon series of the same name. This is
what Power Man (Luke Cage) looks like in that cartoon. Victor Alvarez is a different
character that has only appeared in the comics and who has a similar appearance
to Luke in the cartoon. But officially and canonically, this is Luke Cage.

This distinction is important because Luke Cage is a very well known and popular
Marvel character that has appeared in several media including two seasons of
Netflix television, while Victor Alvarez is relatively obscure character that
has not been adapted into other media.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.

Member DeLuca just changed it back in June, so it had just been "Power Man" for
quite a while. In any case, the character *is* based on the Ultimate Spider-Man
animated series. And in that series, Power Man *is* Luke Cage. I agree with you
though that it should just be "Power Man" again.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.

Member DeLuca just changed it back in June, so it had just been "Power Man" for
quite a while. In any case, the character *is* based on the Ultimate Spider-Man
animated series. And in that series, Power Man *is* Luke Cage. I agree with you
though that it should just be "Power Man" again.

Cheers,
Randy

Are Luke and Victor BOTH Power Man in the show?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.

Member DeLuca just changed it back in June, so it had just been "Power Man" for
quite a while. In any case, the character *is* based on the Ultimate Spider-Man
animated series. And in that series, Power Man *is* Luke Cage. I agree with you
though that it should just be "Power Man" again.

Cheers,
Randy

Are Luke and Victor BOTH Power Man in the show?

No.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.

Member DeLuca just changed it back in June, so it had just been "Power Man" for
quite a while. In any case, the character *is* based on the Ultimate Spider-Man
animated series. And in that series, Power Man *is* Luke Cage. I agree with you
though that it should just be "Power Man" again.

Cheers,
Randy

Are Luke and Victor BOTH Power Man in the show?

No.

Is it unequivocally Luke Cage but confusing because he is wearing the clothes
that Victor wears in the comics?
 Author: pdr507 View Messages Posted By pdr507
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Power Man is the name on the set box that includes this minifig. So BL's
name is correct from that point of view.


The OP is not saying that this isn't Power Man, it's that this is 'Power
Man (Luke Cage)' rather than 'Power Man (Victor Alvarez)' that is
currently listed in the Minifig name:
 
Minifig No: sh104  Name: Power Man
* 
sh104 (Inv) Power Man
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Ultimate Spider-Man

I tried looking up images of both versions of the character and I can definitely
see the confusion. The Luke Cage Power Man only has this look in the Ultimate
Spider-Man cartoon series and has a much different look in most other comic instances.
In most of the images of Victor Alvarez's Power Man that I found, this is
close to his outfit as well.

That being said, I tend to agree with the OP that this should be renamed to Power
Man (Luke Cage).

Josh

I think we should just change it to Power Man, like the box says.

Member DeLuca just changed it back in June, so it had just been "Power Man" for
quite a while. In any case, the character *is* based on the Ultimate Spider-Man
animated series. And in that series, Power Man *is* Luke Cage. I agree with you
though that it should just be "Power Man" again.

Cheers,
Randy

Are Luke and Victor BOTH Power Man in the show?

No.

Is it unequivocally Luke Cage but confusing because he is wearing the clothes
that Victor wears in the comics?

Yes, it should be Luke Cage, the original Power Man. Luke Cage was Power Man
in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Also, the same outfit is used in the
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes and LEGO Marvel Avengers games. In the first one (Marvel
Super Heroes), the character is just referred to as Power Man. However, in the
Marvel Avengers game, the character is just referred to as Luke Cage.
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  Yes, it should be Luke Cage, the original Power Man. Luke Cage was Power Man
in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Also, the same outfit is used in the
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes and LEGO Marvel Avengers games. In the first one (Marvel
Super Heroes), the character is just referred to as Power Man. However, in the
Marvel Avengers game, the character is just referred to as Luke Cage.

The minifigure is in the Ultimate Spider-Man category. It doesn't really
matter whether he wore the same, a similar, or completely different outfit or
has a different name in other media.

And he is named, by LEGO, on the box for this set as Power Man. There are no
other LEGO Power Man minifigures that he can be confused with, so no extra qualifier
is needed.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Yes, it should be Luke Cage, the original Power Man. Luke Cage was Power Man
in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Also, the same outfit is used in the
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes and LEGO Marvel Avengers games. In the first one (Marvel
Super Heroes), the character is just referred to as Power Man. However, in the
Marvel Avengers game, the character is just referred to as Luke Cage.

The minifigure is in the Ultimate Spider-Man category. It doesn't really
matter whether he wore the same, a similar, or completely different outfit or
has a different name in other media.

And he is named, by LEGO, on the box for this set as Power Man. There are no
other LEGO Power Man minifigures that he can be confused with, so no extra qualifier
is needed.

Bingo.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Yes, it should be Luke Cage, the original Power Man. Luke Cage was Power Man
in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon series. Also, the same outfit is used in the
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes and LEGO Marvel Avengers games. In the first one (Marvel
Super Heroes), the character is just referred to as Power Man. However, in the
Marvel Avengers game, the character is just referred to as Luke Cage.

The minifigure is in the Ultimate Spider-Man category. It doesn't really
matter whether he wore the same, a similar, or completely different outfit or
has a different name in other media.

And he is named, by LEGO, on the box for this set as Power Man. There are no
other LEGO Power Man minifigures that he can be confused with, so no extra qualifier
is needed.

Bingo.

True. I only added the extra about the video game to emphasize this was NOT Victor
Alvarez, as the figure was named earlier in the day yesterday.