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 Author: kislibricks View Messages Posted By kislibricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2018 13:34
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Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 9, 2018 14:05
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WoutR (919)

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In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent

There are many different versions of 3001old. They were used from 1958 to the
early 1980s so it not strange that there are many different versions and stud
logos. The 2006 date in our catalog is correct because Maersk blue 3001old were
used in that year.
 Author: kislibricks View Messages Posted By kislibricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2018 17:10
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Thank you for your reply. My problem here is that my customer opened a NSS because
we didn't ship what he was expecting, that is the exact brick on the picture
with the old logo.

That's why it would be great if we could add a note on the page and/or some
more pictures of the different variations. What do you think?
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 9, 2018 17:20
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In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Thank you for your reply. My problem here is that my customer opened a NSS because
we didn't ship what he was expecting, that is the exact brick on the picture
with the old logo.

That's why it would be great if we could add a note on the page and/or some
more pictures of the different variations. What do you think?

We would need a dozen photos....

To find those exact bricks the buyer would need to buy bricks with the "Samsonite
Open O" logo. They can be found in the USA and Canada... This logo was never
used on bricks in Europe.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Thank you for your reply. My problem here is that my customer opened a NSS because
we didn't ship what he was expecting, that is the exact brick on the picture
with the old logo.

That's why it would be great if we could add a note on the page and/or some
more pictures of the different variations. What do you think?

One more thing... just to be clear.

This problem seems to be a misunderstanding about the catalog item on the buyers
side.

If you sent 2x4 bricks without cross-support then the NSS is not justified. BrickLink
does not recognise all the minor mold variations, and it would not be reasonable
to expect that level of detail from a seller. If a buyer needs a specific version,
then he/she needs to ask the seller about those details before ordering.


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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Sep 9, 2018 21:55
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SezaR (1382)

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bonjour,

Si ton client cherche des briques de Samsonite (produit seulement aux états-uni
et au Canada), je crois j'en ai quelques uns. Vous pouvez lui dire, mais
je peux chercher dans mes boites à partir de la semaine prochaine.

Reza


In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Thank you for your reply. My problem here is that my customer opened a NSS because
we didn't ship what he was expecting, that is the exact brick on the picture
with the old logo.

That's why it would be great if we could add a note on the page and/or some
more pictures of the different variations. What do you think?
 Author: kislibricks View Messages Posted By kislibricks
 Posted: Sep 11, 2018 04:10
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   Si ton client cherche des briques de Samsonite (produit seulement aux états-uni
et au Canada), je crois j'en ai quelques uns. Vous pouvez lui dire, mais
je peux chercher dans mes boites à partir de la semaine prochaine.

Merci, je lui ai indiqué votre message.
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
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Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

BR,
Arnoud

In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

I can't believe how difficult it is to find number 31 on your list
I do have all the others, your list was very helpful when I started my collection.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
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Have you seen all the hollow stud slotted 2 X 4 bricks ( Norwegian ).

There are also bricks without tubes or slots that do not have hollow studs but
block letter logo underneath, the block letter logo under the ABB's can be
different styles and then there are the hollow stud slotted with logo on stud
and underneath on the same brick.
2 X 4's and other sizes for some.



In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

BR,
Arnoud

In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent
 Author: maxx3001 View Messages Posted By maxx3001
 Posted: Sep 10, 2018 11:24
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  Have you seen all the hollow stud slotted 2 X 4 bricks ( Norwegian ).

This was just about 3001old, not hollow etc, because that opens up another big
pit

  
There are also bricks without tubes or slots that do not have hollow studs but
block letter logo underneath, the block letter logo under the ABB's can be
different styles and then there are the hollow stud slotted with logo on stud
and underneath on the same brick.
2 X 4's and other sizes for some.



In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

BR,
Arnoud

In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent
 
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Getting side tracked a bit and replying to patpendlego rather than the original
post.

A number of items missing from leggodt listing.








In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  Have you seen all the hollow stud slotted 2 X 4 bricks ( Norwegian ).

This was just about 3001old, not hollow etc, because that opens up another big
pit

  
There are also bricks without tubes or slots that do not have hollow studs but
block letter logo underneath, the block letter logo under the ABB's can be
different styles and then there are the hollow stud slotted with logo on stud
and underneath on the same brick.
2 X 4's and other sizes for some.



In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

BR,
Arnoud

In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent
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Many will be missing

The list shows the bricks I have or have had at some time, definitely no intention
whatsoever to be complete.

Anyway, I will welcome any addition sent to me, as the actual physical bricks
that is, and I will add it to the list!

In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  Getting side tracked a bit and replying to patpendlego rather than the original
post.

A number of items missing from leggodt listing.








In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  Have you seen all the hollow stud slotted 2 X 4 bricks ( Norwegian ).

This was just about 3001old, not hollow etc, because that opens up another big
pit

  
There are also bricks without tubes or slots that do not have hollow studs but
block letter logo underneath, the block letter logo under the ABB's can be
different styles and then there are the hollow stud slotted with logo on stud
and underneath on the same brick.
2 X 4's and other sizes for some.



In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Hello!

So far, I have found 42 bricks 2x4 with differences (and likely there are more).
Curious about your findings

https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

BR,
Arnoud

In Catalog, kislibricks writes:
  Hello!

It seems there exists several variations/molds of the 3001old part (at least
2), which are neither 3001special, 3001f1, bhol04, 3001oldf1 or 3001oldb.

 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick

The 3001old we have are without Cross Supports, but seems newer than the one
pictured, as they don't have the old LEGO logo. They come from old sets from
the 70's that we part outed. The 3001old period ranges from 1954 to 2006
(though I doubt for the last year, I think it ended sooner).

We had an issue with a customer, who already owns some 3001old with the old logo,
and newer 3001old he ordered in our store.

Should we put a notice on the item page? Should the 3001old reference be splitted
into 2 references?

Opinions welcome!

Vincent