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| | | Author: | tEoS  | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 13:35 | | Subject: | Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).
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| | | | | Author: | JulieK | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 14:26 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).
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This has been on my wish list for years, it's high time BL instituted this.
Especially since Superlots are now excluded by default.
I remember asking about this in the past and if I remember correctly, the answer
had something to do with too many color combos for the catalog to handle. That
was a very, very long time ago, I could be misremembering the reason.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).
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Sounds good to me. Make it a suggestion
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 18:20 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
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As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:
[P=30230c01]
As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:
1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.
2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2
3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).
Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 19:03 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
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Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
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Also, don’t forget that when you have “left arm” and “right arm” in a wanted
list, “left and right arms” is never suggested, and vice versa.
The complete minifig isn’t suggested either if you parted it out in your WL.
Same for sets.
When looking for a minifig part (which is rare but happens), I add both the part
and the minifigs that use it (if they are affordable). I would have to do the
same if there were paired parts….
Of course, if the search algorithms were to be modified to help me do that, that
would be wonderful.
And if they could also help search for multiple colours without having to look
for N/A and a bunch of colours I don’t want…
And if they could point me to a set or incomplete set that has a bunch of the
parts I want and which is for sale for cheaper than I would have to pay for the
parts…
And I’d want a poney too.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 19:17 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| So what if we just instituted a limited form of superlot what was just for paired
pieces. I think it would dodge all the problems you pointed out and solve the
problem that the OP wants solved. I don't think that would cause the sort
of problems that some bad seeds were causing with superlots before.
I know my heart sinks when I have 8 left wedges and 8 right wedges and someone
just gets the right ones. It's gonna be pretty hard to sell the left ones
after that. Definitely going to have to mark them down to entice someone. And
you know what it entices them to do? Buy the left ones from me and the right
ones from someone else. Rinse and repeat.
In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
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As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:
[P=30230c01]
As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:
1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.
2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2
3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).
Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyipp | | Posted: | Aug 11, 2018 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Personally I think paired wedges are over rated. Some sets do not even have
them in pairs. Now most buyers get them in pairs but not all. Maybe they bought
the others from someone else, maybe they had what they needed already.
Wedge plates are a pretty mediocre seller as it is. I'm not saying I wouldn't
vote yes on this type of suggestion but I probably would not use it. Myabe there
are some parts out there I would like to keep pared, but I am not going to lose
any sleep over the ones that aren't.
In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | So what if we just instituted a limited form of superlot what was just for paired
pieces. I think it would dodge all the problems you pointed out and solve the
problem that the OP wants solved. I don't think that would cause the sort
of problems that some bad seeds were causing with superlots before.
I know my heart sinks when I have 8 left wedges and 8 right wedges and someone
just gets the right ones. It's gonna be pretty hard to sell the left ones
after that. Definitely going to have to mark them down to entice someone. And
you know what it entices them to do? Buy the left ones from me and the right
ones from someone else. Rinse and repeat.
In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
| | In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
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As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:
[P=30230c01]
As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:
1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.
2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2
3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).
Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Aug 12, 2018 01:34 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).
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Paired parts are usefull if they match a pattern of some kind, like below. The
pattern on different upper/lower bricks isn't always on the same place (by
the mm) so a matching pair is of interest to the buyer. I would support a pair-entry
for this kind of items. (Although using a superlot is doing the trick too.)
However, for wedges or other kinds of 'paires' which do not share a pattern
or something else I don't see the added value. They are just two items in
a set, it does not matter which ones are used they always fit.
IMO the catalog entry for paired arms is redundant, an exception. If it was deleted
I would not miss it.
Maybe an improved interface for superlots would help.
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| | | | | Author: | Heartbricker | | Posted: | Aug 13, 2018 14:21 | | Subject: | Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items. | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
| | Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?
Example:
Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).
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I like it, voted yes, I don’t like to buy the same amount of left and right wedges
or technic panels and when the seller is missing some items from one side- they
just ship the other side and I’m stuck with a bunch of items I don’t need and
had to pay for.
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