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| | | Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Aug 3, 2018 13:21 | | Subject: | Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
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| | | | | Author: | PurpleDave | | Posted: | Aug 3, 2018 19:52 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
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Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
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| | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2018 07:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
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There might be a hole inside the door frame, but it doesn't go all the way
through to the outside on the yellow door. I'll check and answer your questings
regarding the glass during next week. I won't be home until then.
I have pictures of all combinations of hole/no hole and color. 4 in total. Two
with hole (red, white) and two without (red, yellow). Images attached.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2018 20:22 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| These are my windows. Note that:
- the windows on the right column have hole in their frames.
- the windows on the left column don't have any hole.
- all glasses are fixed.
I tried to remove the glass of one (the red one on the right column, on the bottom)
I managed to remove it by breaking it! (another sacrifice of my personal collection
 ) the glass doesn't have a tap. Nevertheless, it is fixed.
My white one on the right column was already broken but it is interesting that
the shape of the glass glued to the window is different (at the bottom) like
those on the left column.
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
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There might be a hole inside the door frame, but it doesn't go all the way
through to the outside on the yellow door. I'll check and answer your questings
regarding the glass during next week. I won't be home until then.
I have pictures of all combinations of hole/no hole and color. 4 in total. Two
with hole (red, white) and two without (red, yellow). Images attached.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2018 20:26 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I just noticed another difference: the handle or key-hole or whatever it is
in some versions it is on the right and in the other on the left
In Catalog, SezaR writes:
| | These are my windows. Note that:
- the windows on the right column have hole in their frames.
- the windows on the left column don't have any hole.
- all glasses are fixed.
I tried to remove the glass of one (the red one on the right column, on the bottom)
I managed to remove it by breaking it! (another sacrifice of my personal collection
) the glass doesn't have a tap. Nevertheless, it is fixed.
My white one on the right column was already broken but it is interesting that
the shape of the glass glued to the window is different (at the bottom) like
those on the left column.
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
|
There might be a hole inside the door frame, but it doesn't go all the way
through to the outside on the yellow door. I'll check and answer your questings
regarding the glass during next week. I won't be home until then.
I have pictures of all combinations of hole/no hole and color. 4 in total. Two
with hole (red, white) and two without (red, yellow). Images attached.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Aug 5, 2018 08:27 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SezaR writes:
| | I just noticed another difference: the handle or key-hole or whatever it is
in some versions it is on the right and in the other on the left
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These variants are cataloged
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In Catalog, SezaR writes:
| | These are my windows. Note that:
- the windows on the right column have hole in their frames.
- the windows on the left column don't have any hole.
- all glasses are fixed.
I tried to remove the glass of one (the red one on the right column, on the bottom)
I managed to remove it by breaking it! (another sacrifice of my personal collection
) the glass doesn't have a tap. Nevertheless, it is fixed.
My white one on the right column was already broken but it is interesting that
the shape of the glass glued to the window is different (at the bottom) like
those on the left column.
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
|
There might be a hole inside the door frame, but it doesn't go all the way
through to the outside on the yellow door. I'll check and answer your questings
regarding the glass during next week. I won't be home until then.
I have pictures of all combinations of hole/no hole and color. 4 in total. Two
with hole (red, white) and two without (red, yellow). Images attached.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 09:17 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | | | Couple quick questions. Is the glass loose in the red door, or is it still glued
to the frame? If you look on the inside of the yellow frame, can you tell if
the glass has tabs or if it's cut straight across? I ask this because from
where I'm sitting, looking at a single photo on a computer screen, I can't
tell if it's possible that the yellow frame has the same hole and it's
just obscured by a layer of flash. This happened with the headlight bricks,
which resulted in them being split into two catalog entries for "slotted" and
"unslotted", when it was really just parts where the flash was still attached
and parts where it either didn't form or had been removed (it was pretty
easy to poke it out with a fingernail and leave a nice crisp rectangular hole,
which tells you just how intentional it was when it occurred).
|
There might be a hole inside the door frame, but it doesn't go all the way
through to the outside on the yellow door. I'll check and answer your questings
regarding the glass during next week. I won't be home until then.
I have pictures of all combinations of hole/no hole and color. 4 in total. Two
with hole (red, white) and two without (red, yellow). Images attached.
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The glass is glued in both versions that I have, so I don't have any new
info that has not already been written by others in this thread. I guess there
are three different versions of glass although I only have two of them, and both
left and right doors can be with and without hole (I only have the left version
with hole).
This issue seems to be a little more complicated than I expected, so I think
I will leave it to someone else to change the catalogue. Feel free to use the
images that I posted if they're at all usable.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Aug 5, 2018 08:45 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, PurpleDave writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
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There is no hole. In the no-hole version, the glass is cut into a perfect rectangle
and attached with thin lines of glue just above and below the opening. The mold
is also slightly different. The edges are sharper and the top section is thicker
on the front.
In the version with a hole, the glass has a tab on the top edge that fits the
hole. The corners are rounded. It may or may not be glued in place also. There
are two versions of the glass - one is shown here (in red) where the lower edge
of the glass is curved to accommodate the center prong. This version is glued.
There is another version where there is a tab on the lower edge that fits into
the channel molded into the prong. I think these are removable, but I don't
have one handy to check.
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 18:11 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
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All of these doors have glued glass, hole or no hole, with one exception: 32b
with 32glass in CA plastic. I have not found these in ABS, nor have I found a
33b. Yet
So there is a seperate entry.
* | | 32b Door 1 x 2 x 3 Hinge on Left, without Glass
Parts: Door |
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| | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
|
All of these doors have glued glass, hole or no hole, with one exception: 32b
with 32glass in CA plastic. I have not found these in ABS, nor have I found a
33b. Yet
So there is a seperate entry.
* | | 32b Door 1 x 2 x 3 Hinge on Left, without Glass
Parts: Door |
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Note: I do have samples of these items in my personal collection, in red.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 18:37 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
|
All of these doors have glued glass, hole or no hole, with one exception: 32b
with 32glass in CA plastic. I have not found these in ABS, nor have I found a
33b. Yet
So there is a seperate entry.
* | | 32b Door 1 x 2 x 3 Hinge on Left, without Glass
Parts: Door |
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I have several of these in red ABS
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 19:12 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
|
All of these doors have glued glass, hole or no hole, with one exception: 32b
with 32glass in CA plastic. I have not found these in ABS, nor have I found a
33b. Yet
So there is a seperate entry.
* | | 32b Door 1 x 2 x 3 Hinge on Left, without Glass
Parts: Door |
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I have several of these in red ABS
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I am interested, sent you a PM
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Aug 7, 2018 19:19 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of 33bc01? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, 62Bricks writes:
| | In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Hi
I just sorted my old doors and found that there are actually two versions of
. One with a hole in the top and one without. The BrickLink part shows
two images, one with a hole and one without. Shouldn't this part be split
into two?
/Jan
|
All of these doors have glued glass, hole or no hole, with one exception: 32b
with 32glass in CA plastic. I have not found these in ABS, nor have I found a
33b. Yet
So there is a seperate entry.
* | | 32b Door 1 x 2 x 3 Hinge on Left, without Glass
Parts: Door |
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I have several of these in red ABS
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I am interested, sent you a PM
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To be clear - I have several 32b in Red ABS - I thought it was this one you said
you had not seen in ABS.
All of my doors of this type are 32s.
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