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 Author: Geniac View Messages Posted By Geniac
 Posted: Jul 20, 2018 09:41
 Subject: Does 3062b come in flat silver?
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Geniac (708)

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Hello!

I'm working on adding a lot of used Lego and I'm trying to identify a
color.

The part is a round brick 1x1 (3062b), and it appears to be flat silver. I've
compared it to new parts already in my inventory, and it really looks like that
color. It's definitely not metallic silver, at least compared to other metallic
silver parts in my new inventory.

My issue is that this does not appear to be a known color for this part. The
part certainly appears to be actual Lego, so I don't think that's the
issue. I just don't want to add something to my inventory incorrectly.

Opinions? I'm tempted to just chuck those ones in the donation box rather
than mess with it, since it's only a couple of pieces. But I'm intrigued
as well.

Thanks!

Ann
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 Author: jodawill View Messages Posted By jodawill
 Posted: Jul 20, 2018 09:44
 Subject: Re: Does 3062b come in flat silver?
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In Colors, Geniac writes:
  Hello!

I'm working on adding a lot of used Lego and I'm trying to identify a
color.

The part is a round brick 1x1 (3062b), and it appears to be flat silver. I've
compared it to new parts already in my inventory, and it really looks like that
color. It's definitely not metallic silver, at least compared to other metallic
silver parts in my new inventory.

My issue is that this does not appear to be a known color for this part. The
part certainly appears to be actual Lego, so I don't think that's the
issue. I just don't want to add something to my inventory incorrectly.

Opinions? I'm tempted to just chuck those ones in the donation box rather
than mess with it, since it's only a couple of pieces. But I'm intrigued
as well.

Thanks!

Ann
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 Author: PurpleDave View Messages Posted By PurpleDave
 Posted: Jul 20, 2018 18:42
 Subject: Re: Does 3062b come in flat silver?
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In Colors, jodawill writes:
  FWIW: https://store.bricklink.com/mwlchow?itemID=73486053#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%2273486053%22}

Metallic colors are painted, so they can be (and are) replicated. All you have
to do is find a way to match the look of the paint. Pearl and flat colors are
molded, and the only way to reproduce those is to mold them like that.

That said, there could be Q elements. LEGO Master Model Builders and LEGO Certified
Professionals can order any shape in any color if they feel like it, and it'll
be made. There are a couple of sellers who have this part listed in flat silver,
so it _might_ exist. However, Brickset inventories show no such thing (then
again, I can't find any listings for metallic silver ones either, and those
clearly exist). If it exists as an official part, their inventories should pick
it up because they mine the info directly from the LEGO servers, and avoid human
error. The only downside to their system is that they're only set up to
display the latest version of any set inventory. If changes are made, their
inventories are automatically updated to reflect that. That means if flat silver
1x1 round bricks _did_ get released in a set, but then got replaced with a different
color of the same part, Brickset would lose that info as soon as they pull the
updated inventory down. Here, you can save variations to set inventories as
you run across them, but people have to identify the part and color, and they
don't always get it right.

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 Author: Geniac View Messages Posted By Geniac
 Posted: Jul 21, 2018 08:40
 Subject: Re: Does 3062b come in flat silver?
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In Colors, PurpleDave writes:
  In Colors, jodawill writes:
  FWIW: https://store.bricklink.com/mwlchow?itemID=73486053#/shop?o={%22invID%22:%2273486053%22}

Metallic colors are painted, so they can be (and are) replicated. All you have
to do is find a way to match the look of the paint. Pearl and flat colors are
molded, and the only way to reproduce those is to mold them like that.

That said, there could be Q elements. LEGO Master Model Builders and LEGO Certified
Professionals can order any shape in any color if they feel like it, and it'll
be made. There are a couple of sellers who have this part listed in flat silver,
so it _might_ exist. However, Brickset inventories show no such thing (then
again, I can't find any listings for metallic silver ones either, and those
clearly exist). If it exists as an official part, their inventories should pick
it up because they mine the info directly from the LEGO servers, and avoid human
error. The only downside to their system is that they're only set up to
display the latest version of any set inventory. If changes are made, their
inventories are automatically updated to reflect that. That means if flat silver
1x1 round bricks _did_ get released in a set, but then got replaced with a different
color of the same part, Brickset would lose that info as soon as they pull the
updated inventory down. Here, you can save variations to set inventories as
you run across them, but people have to identify the part and color, and they
don't always get it right.

[p=3062b]

Good info, thanks!

It's definitely not chrome plated, so that's not the issue. It must
be something like the other...was made for something at some point or for someone.

Thanks again!

Ann
 Author: PurpleDave View Messages Posted By PurpleDave
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In Colors, Geniac writes:
  Good info, thanks!

It's definitely not chrome plated, so that's not the issue. It must
be something like the other...was made for something at some point or for someone.

Maybe. It could also be another brand. These parts never have the LEGO logo
on them (unless it's hidden up inside?) because there's not really any
place to put it that won't negatively affect the fit or aesthetics The
inner and outer sides of both the stud and the inset at the bottom are connection
surfaces, so those are out. The top of the stud is too thin to really fit the
logo on. The main barrel is the main visual surface, so that would be like having
the logo stamped into the side of a brick.

On LEGO 1x1 round bricks, there is always a pip on the side where the mold gate
is located. On most examples I can find, that pip is about 1/16", fairly round,
and located about 1/3 of the way from the top of the barrel (exclude the stud
and inset base for this). Chinese LEGO has a larger pip that's a bit longer
in the vertical (as seen from the S10 painter, and TLBM1 Dick Grayson accessories).
I can't find any offhand, but I always make sure to hide the pips whenever
possible when building, so I'm pretty sure I've seen a few where the
gate is 1/3 of the way from the bottom of the barrel. They have multiple factories
across Europe, so I suspect this variant comes from one of those, but if they
don't run that mold as often it won't be as common as the standard version.

The other thing that you can look for is if the inside of the base and the stud
are perfectly round, because they shouldn't be (not on modern parts, at least).
At four equidistant points around the inside of these two places, there should
be a slight bulge or flat spot that disrupts what is otherwise a perfectly round
hole. This is where the inside surfaces touch when they're attached to another
part. The round section is a slightly wider diameter that would have zero clutch,
but if you tilt the part when removing it from a stud this allows the part to
flex a bit so it won't crack open (this is especially important on trans
parts because the old ones were made of acrylic and would crack open the base
as a result of this, looking like someone had gone after it with a hole punch).
For trans parts this poses a bigger problem if you insert a trans bar into a
trans stud, because the material would have so much clutch that it would be nearly
impossible to remove the part, and could result in the bar snapping off in the
attempt. It's believed that they changed the material used for just lightsaber
blades to prevent this polycarbonate bonding, but if this change was introduced
around the same time it could help by limiting the clutch. Now, these bulges
are a bit faint, and can be hard to spot, so if you don't see them right
away try under different lighting, especially if you can limit it from a single
source (this creates stronger shadows), and don't forget to slowly rotate
the part a bit so the shading moves around the inside of the holes.